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Why do you ignore the amazon video score which is only 2.7 based on 554 user reviews which are different that the 630 blu-ray/dvd reviews. If AC would be threated as any other movie with both kinds of reviews merged the score would be less, somewhere around 3.4 or 3.5. I don't know why Amazon does this, but it does check it out.
^There's currently no indication that It will do well in Japan. The bigger threat will be Japan's domestic slate.
I also wrote this in the other Japan box office thread. It doesn't look like the typhoon affected things too much at the box office, especially since most of the prominent theaters are closer to Fukuoka, but I'm sure some numbers were lost:
The thing is the odds were stacked against it since Japan isn't a very bankable market for Hollywood anymore. They were popular in the country back in the 1990s, but now Japan's film industry is much stronger, with triple the number of screens from the 1990s. As a result, most (not all, but most) Hollywood films are just less attractive to them.
Even Marvel/DC films don't do very well. Wonder Woman will be lucky if it earns more than $12 million by the end of its run.
It's also important to remember that Japan's preferred measurement for box office ranking is theater attendance. This is because movie tickets are often sold depending on the genre, what country it's from, what studio made it, what gender is buying the ticket and what sort of discount day it is. (There are many.)
Alien: Covenant opened on a Holiday weekend and was practically the only major release, but it looks like it's only #1 via more expensive tickets. Attendance-wise it looks like it may have opened as low as #3. I don't know yet, I'm still waiting for more official numbers from Kogyotsushin to be translated.
Attendance is important because it gives us an indicator of how well it will do in the coming weeks. Strong legs is more important to the Japanese box office than opening weekends, but comparing Saturday's number to Sunday's might give an indication of its future.
If it made $2.6M then it likely opened to an estimated audience of 195,000 for the weekend. For comparison that number is a slightly better opening than Wonder Woman (182,092), Ghost in a Shell (171,203), Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (163,143) and Logan (113,600).
More when I have it.
Yeah sure, with "It" arriving on the 17th in Japan I anticipate Covenant has really good legs.
--- by G. H. (Gman):
'It's also important to remember that Japan's preferred measurement for box office ranking is theater attendance. This is because movie tickets are often sold depending on the genre, what country it's from, what studio made it, what gender is buying the ticket and what sort of discount day it is. (There are many.)
Alien: Covenant opened on a Holiday weekend and was practically the only major release, but it looks like it's only #1 via more expensive tickets. Attendance-wise it looks like it may have opened as low as #3. I don't know yet, I'm still waiting for more official numbers from Kogyotsushin to be translated.
Attendance is important because it gives us an indicator of how well it will do in the coming weeks. Strong legs is more important to the Japanese box office than opening weekends, but comparing Saturday's number to Sunday's might give an indication of its future.
If it made $2.6M then it likely opened to an estimated audience of 195,000 for the weekend. For comparison that number is a slightly better opening than Wonder Woman (182,092), Ghost in the Shell (171,203), Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (163,143) and Logan (113,600).
More when I have it.'
Call answers with frank and urgent confidence, "You're a thing. A construct. They grew you in a fucking lab." Ripley starts staring at Call without blinking much. She's confused. It's like her purpose to live was just ripped out of her that there was no time to fight it.
that would be an amazing book, Id buy it without question! Thanks for the share Ati!
bring back what this franchise is all about. And I don't mean bug hunt, I mean visceral, gripping survival stories that are smart and suspenseful.
definitely have to agree there! The Dead Space franchise was inspired by what made Alien so great, now perhaps the Alien franchise should return the favour and take notes from makes Dead Space so great lol. Epic grand scale visuals, suspense, intelligent and logical decision-making, constant threat to survival, visceral and gripping
You are welcome, Roger55, it would be a nice Christmas present from them.
joylitt - See what you did? Chris has just read your impossible comment above and can't stop laughing. Not well played, joylitt
Ati thank you for sharing, I love all AC extra-merchandising.
Ripley- I'm not her. What am I?
Ati See what you did? You prompted Chris to clarify in a news thread what those numbers mean. Well played, Ati
"It's no surprise that Covenant struggled at the box office, both domestically and internationally"
Exactly, no surprise. Because it doesn't even feel like an Alien movie. I am going to say it again: just make a spinoff with David and company for that minority who enjoys that storyline and bring back what this franchise is all about. And I don't mean bug hunt, I mean visceral, gripping survival stories that are smart and suspenseful.
Covenant may not have done too well domestically but internationally it did pretty well or am I missing something? Either way, glad Blu-ray sales are strong and that it wasn't a total flop at the box office. I hope FOX doesn't cave in to the naysayers and moves forward with Ridley's plans because he has a great thing on his hands and he obviously isn't finished. Love the mythology building and sophisticated storytelling.
I saw him post that :D Very intrigued myself and would buy in a heartbeat!
IRaptus - Supreme Leader Snoke's private gigamega destroyer with its 60km has arrived. LOL!
G. H. (Gman) - Thank you for the info.
Yes, but it's also a very prominent holiday weekend in Japan. Box office numbers are often up during what they call Silver Week--So it evens out.
The thing is the odds were stacked against it since Japan isn't a very bankable market for Hollywood anymore. They were popular in the country back in the 1990s, but now Japan's film industry is much stronger, with triple the number of screens from the 1990s. As a result, most (not all, but most) Hollywood films are just less attractive to them.
Even Marvel/DC films don't do very well. Wonder Woman will be lucky if it earns more than $12 million by the end of its run.
It's also important to remember that Japan's preferred measurement for box office ranking is theater attendance. This is because movie tickets are often sold depending on the genre, what country it's from, what studio made it, what gender is buying the ticket and what sort of discount day it is. (There are many.)
Alien: Covenant opened on a Holiday weekend and was practically the only major release, but it looks like it's only #1 via more expensive tickets. Attendance-wise it looks like it may have opened as low as #3. I don't know yet, I'm still waiting for more official numbers from Kogyotsushin to be translated.
Attendance is important because it gives us an indicator of how well it will do in the coming weeks. Strong legs is more important to the Japanese box office than opening weekends, but comparing Saturday's number to Sunday's might give an indication of its future.
If it made $2.6M then it likely opened to an estimated audience of 195,000 for the weekend. For comparison that number is a slightly better opening than Wonder Woman (182,092), Ghost in a Shell (171,203), Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (163,143) and Logan (113,600).
More when I have it.
Oram- "What do you believe in David?"
David- contemplates for a moment "... Creation."
Love this scene!
I thought so too, Ridley definitely has an eye for detail. The way Oram convulsed with his tongue piercing out was uncomfortable to watch lol
The Deacon mural over the Proto head is epic!
The steam is a really nice touch, hot body - cold tomblike room.
so is Oram's fingers twitching and curling up into a spider-like rigor mortis.
Xenotaris agreed, it is a truly epic design. As timeless and iconic as any other memorable sci-fi ship design
Ati Its a cool looking ship, though huge compared to the other ships in the franchise at x10 the size of a Conestoga and Juggernaut!
Makes you wonder What the hell else did they have on that thing beside the whole Alien experiments.
I love how the Sulaco was designed to look like a gun in space whilst the Auriga's design was based around a combat knife, though with that tapered bow it looks more like a hammerhead shark imo, somewhat predatory for a research ship XD
@red0guy@gmail.com -"On RT the user score is 57"
RT is the last place I would look for an accurate public opinion. That place has morphed into a hate fest. I think IMDB gives a much better picture, and they rated it 6.5 / 10 (65%), from twice as many voters as RT. Amazon here shows 3.7/5 stars (74%) from verified buyers. Google users show 77% liked. Metacritic's users score is 60%.
Point being, more of the public liked it than disliked it. Average all those and it is around 67% positive. With reviewers it is even higher.
"But in all honesty I don't know if it will sale as many units as Prom"
Prom came out in 2012. A lot has changed since then so probably no way AC will sell as many units. Home Video sales have declined every year because VOD/streaming services are taking over. No one knows what those numbers are because the studios don't make them public, but expect AC is doing fine in that arena.
Prometheus was David's origin story and the reason why he sees mankind as inferior. He was 'gray' because he was still under Peter Weyland's thumb but now that he perished David is free to do as he pleases though it's far too late as he has become jaded and infected by his creator's God-complex. In Prometheus he was merely biding his time and over the course of the film you saw David's true uncaring/indifferent nature come to the forefront. "Doesn't everyone want their parents dead?"
His character and progression are parallel to Sir Lawrence in Lawrence of Arabia.
I always had a soft spot for the Conestoga-class Dreadnaught 
Joylitt:
I agree that David was better in Prometheus, he was straight up evil in AC. He was more gray in Prometheus, which I think was better. They could keep David but keep more attention to the human characters and let them be the important part.
joylitt David has always been that way and his progression in Covenant was natural as he went mad and is free. Michael Fassbender knocked it out of the park and was one of the many saving graces of the film but we are free to our own opinions.
I like David in Prometheus and I pretty much hate him in Alien Covenant. They ruined the character, making him an over the top, self pitying and obnoxious caricature. His portrayal even affects the way I see Michael Fassbender in other movies, and that's not a good sign. Time to terminate David in my opinion.
I'm still convinced that the suit is just the Engineer mutated with the black goo in a controlled enough way that it changes them the way they want to be. Maybe with the correct amount or concoction, Holloway could've ended up like these guys. The suits just seem so organic and almost slimy. along with it fusing with the regular skin at the neck and wrists.
I just read an article where they compare Alien Covenant to Mother! in the way they are both box office poison.
Could be from exiting Oram's body and the heat inside.
Beautiful :D
Lawrence of Arabia: I don't think that it is too late. Sure he will probably have a big role in the next one but his role could be less compared to Prometheus and AC so they cold focus more on the human characters but I understand what you are saying though.
One thing that is interesting is that it is a very polarizing movie so those that support it and those that are against it exaggerate their likes and dislikes. Am I one of the few that thinks that it is a movie that is OK, sort of in the middle?
It's too late at this point to switch focus as David is the only character who ties Prometheus with Covenant and so forth. It would throw off the narrative completely if they switched now. Anyways, that's your opinion and we've already had four films with human leads so it's nice to have something different especially considering he's a villain as well.
How did I miss to reply to this thread? It as toilet humor in it! :D
