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Lawrence of Arabia: The thing is that I don't want David to be the main focus. I don't care as much about him as I do for the human characters and what they go through (which is what I think that a good movie should be.)

Is is steaming ?

My guess is that it will make less than Prometheus in Japan as well. There hadn't been an alien movie since 1997 when Prometheus was released (not counting the AVP's). Prometheus was a disappointment so my guess is that it will make less in Japan as it as done in other countries this far but we'll see.

My guess is that the Engineers are like the Mayans, or Aztecs, a kind of culture. One possibility is that there were other cities on that planet that were more advanced.

I didn't have a problem with how their buildings looked although they could have been better. Eventually people have a tendency to make up things in their minds and they get disappointed when the result doesn't live up to what they have imagined.

Agronut: I think that they over-did the David thing in Alien Covenant. The next movie needs better human characters because there were no one to root for in AC. They should have had The last supper and Phobos in the movie because it explained the characters better. It was a mistake that they didn't have those. No thanks to another David movie, I didn't like that in Covenant that much even though the movie was alright (2 out of 5 is what I give it).

"I hope that it doesn't mean that we will get more movies focused on AI. I want it focused on well done human characters."

As long as it doesn't shift the focus from David, he's the main character of these prequels. The humans are indispensable and I thought we got some great characters from Danny, Tennessee, and Oram but that's my opinion.

Lawrence of Arabia:

I wouldn't mind seeing more about the Engineers if they manage to make them interesting and make sense as far as the franchise in general is concerned. The potential is there, it is just that they haven't succeeded this far.

The pressure suit and that part of the Xeno seem to have something in common as far as the look is concerned. This is interesting.

Davefried81: Nah, you're not crazy. I see that too

I am not sure but isn't it a bit early to make a judgment after it just has been there for a short time? After all it doesn't seem very surprising to me since Prometheus was a disappointment and this is a sequel to Prometheus. One other problem that it has is that it focuses mostly on AI at the expense of the human characters.

 

If the Blu-rays are selling somewhat good then it might not be a disaster if AC doesn't do that well in Japan.

 

"Hopefully FOX lets Ridley continue his work without any more compromises."

 

I hope that it doesn't mean that we will get more movies focused on AI. I want it focused on well done human characters.

Thanks for the input.

i really can not wait any longer to own this.

it been a long time.... (For the UK anyways Sept. 18 :()

Thank you for answering.

In Town Wednesday steel book will be in my possession 

Kethol

On RT the user score is 57. While the amazon scores are divined in 2 for amazon video (2.7) and physichal mediums (3.7). This still remains curios why they don't combine the two (to show the true score of 3.4 - 3.5). In the uk its still at 3.2 in the Uk, 3.2 in France  and 2.8 in Germany.Of course this week will be a best seller in those countries. But in all honesty I don't know if it will sale as many units as Prom.

Yes, and it was mentioned previously by one of the members that it is possible that both versions exist during the events of Covenant.

@daliens "Especially after the hate wave and negative reviews"

The reviews by critics on Meta, IMDB, and RT were actually about 70% positive. About the same as Prometheus. Public reviews average around 67% positive, which is also close to Prometheus.

Amazons BR/DVD reviews are always a good after-release determination too. 3.5 out of 5 stars = 70% positive.

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IRaptus - I'm an Auriga-fan. :)

Without doubt, if your house disappears in a hurricane, and you have to save your children and your life during/after a disaster caused by flood, you usually do not visit the nearest theater to watch a movie. That is our apparent Grand Conspiracy…

Wish it did better but overall not too bad. Hopefully FOX lets Ridley continue his work without any more compromises.

I had advent on my blu ray so u should have it it's ace on a big screen and it had a making of wasn't expecting that hope u enjoy it 

Hey let me know if "Advent" is on there plz.

Steelbook has Advent?? is the question then ????

4K + Blu-Ray has just arrived in the post. Looks like all the extras are there... Better get Pizza and beers in.

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Yeah possibly.I'll check the page i got it from 

daliens

We all know that there is a Grand Conspiracy against the greatest movie of the year.

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Alien Covenant is number one in Japan in spite of threats like typhoon and North Korean rocket launching, so I think is pretty good. I hope the Japanese don't read the imdb reviews and don't watch the youtube media that's full of hatred against Covenant.

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daliens

On what do you base your opinion. 2.6 corresponds roughly to 200k viewers (judging from the japanese average ticket price of 12.77 dollars) on 3 days of a country of 127 millions. Does not seem so good to me.

Another example of how poorly Fox planned the release of Alien Covenant: during typhoon season in Japan. Then the 2.6 million is quite something.

CALL - I've read Morse (referring to Morse from Alien 3's contraband novel "Space Beast") - I've read all the banned histories. She gave her life to protect us from the beast. You're not her.

ninXeno426 thats an awesome picture too! Almost could be the same artist you think?

One i found on FB as well....kind find the artist either 

even the storm against AC : (

pretty good image IRaptus

Alien Covenant is more than a horror movie. I don't watch horror movies except for Stephen King's adaptations.

4 months after its theater release and 1 month after its bluray release Alien Covenant does very well in Japan. Especially after the hate wave and negative reviews. 

And the fact the bluray sales are good is encouraging, fans always want to hold a hard copy of things they love.

Truely pathetic, by the end of it's run AC will be the 4th horror movie at the box office for 2017, while being the most expensive. It will be lucky to bring in 2.5 times it's production cost (the other successful horrors with at least 10 times the cost).  

And I don't that it will out sale Prometheus at the home release market.

Ripley- What do you know about it?

I agree with you both. I just wish I had a date on a screen somewhere or some other marker to show the actual date on the surface...and not four cryptic time stamps. If I did, I would correct the timeline start and reconcile to a later date. Late December sounds reasonable. 

Very sad news very good actor.

Just made for you joylitt

Just WOW ati

Yes, the Covenant arrives at Planet 4 on 24, December 2104 - if I know correctly. (Yes, 24th again...)

I hope there will be a big surprise for us in Alien: Awakening.  Ripley is faced with a challenge since the point of the prequels was to explain more about the alien in the chair we see in 1979 Alien.  We really don't know how Alien: Covenant links up to this, but we do know Prometheus helps explain who the alien in the chair is.

So, Ridley's got to show us what Alien: Covenant is all about in Alien: Awakening and finish telling the story of the alien in the chair.  I think Alien: Awakening will take quite a bit away in time from the happenings of Alien: Covenant and I pray that Ridley doesn't end Alien: Awakening right where Alien starts.  I hope he lets us know what happened to the alien in the chair without actually showing us what happened.

I speculate the alien in the chair was there for a long time because that would be a good story.  The question is how does this then fit into the prequels?  I think everyone is assuming David has something to do with the alien in the chair or maybe it is actually David somehow in the chair.

Ridley Scott gave us a fresh twist with Alien: Covenant.  That twist being that it takes place 10 years after Prometheus and has a whole new cast, except for David of course.  I expect the same treatment for Alien: Awakening.  I think we're going to get something none of us are going to be able to predict.  That is unless we try and think of things that we can't predict from what we have already seen, which we could.

I do think all of the Covenant crew will be dead in Alien: Awakening.  I doubt we'll get to see David experimenting on them because that kind of scare technique is not what the Alien franchise is about.  Alien3 had a little human anatomy gore, but with Alien: Covenant, we got all of the experiments outside the movie and instead on the internet.

The question to help us figure out what's in Alien: Awakening is, "What does David want with all of the Colonists?"  Yes, we know he wants to experiment on them, but what is the final purpose.

I think it's to kill the human race.  So, he could possible be taking his experiments results back to Earth.  That way he could see his experiments in action.  Plus, we need a Alien movie which address the Xeno's threat to Earth.  But, does David stop by LV-223 to get a juggernaut with more goo?  Or does he think the Xeno he created is actually a better weapon than the goo?  He most likely thinks his Xeno is the perfect weapon since he just has to let them loose and just sit back and grab a cold one.  WY knows about David's experiments because we saw his transmission to them from a video released by Fox on the internet.  They don't know he's coming to Earth, but he is.  He actually may stop by LV-223 to get a juggernaut so that the Earthlings can't track his ship.  I assure you that the Covenant ship has a tracker on it.  I don't see how it couldn't to be honest.  The problem with going to LV-223 is that it could take awhile.  We really don't know where the Covenant ship is located or where Planet 4 is located for that matter.  David might know where to find a ship that wasn't revealed in the movies too.  I would think David would want to get another ship, though, so the humans can't track him until he's close.  Plus, he probably needs a ship which has a weapon so he can fight his way to Earth.  We may get an epic space fight!!!!!  Plus, those juggernauts are probably fast and hard to hit.

So, the Engineers come into play because they know what David did to Planet 4.  They didn't go to Planet 4 because it's to dangerous, still I think the Engineers would have bio-suits to protect them from the free goo.  Still, they would have to worry about David.  Planet 4 is David's home now, so technically he would have home court advantage too.  I don't think there are many of the Engineers like we saw in Prometheus.  I think they are a special breed of an alien species which brings the risk of one dying.  Those Engineers need to be very careful and not die because they are a special variant of the common alien gene.  Of course, now David is in space, so the Engineers can attack him.  So, the Engineers come into play and try to stop David from getting to Earth.  After all, the Engineers DID NOT kill humanity and I think that was a conscious decision by them.  They changed their minds.  David ends up giving up trying to land on Earth and just crashes into it.  The Engineers land on Earth and take the juggernaut back before the average human being can notice.  The big powers on Earth cover up what actually happened and leave the fact that aliens exist to themselves.  David would most likely crash in the ocean since there is so much of it on Earth.  Like I said, he gave up trying to land on Earth because the Engineers are winning the space fight.  So, he just throws the juggernaut at planet Earth and hopes for the best.  The thing is that the Engineer flying David's juggernaut back didn't account for David being an android.  So, actually David somehow gets an egg to open and the facehugger somehow catches the Engineer off guard and impregnates him.  The Engineer was trying to fly the juggernaut back to LV-223 because that was the chosen location to put all weapons of mass destruction after the Engineers decided not to kill the humans.  So, the juggernaut crashes on LV-426 because it was set on autopilot with the Engineer relaxing in the chair.  The Engineer couldn't land it because he was impregnated and dead by the time the ship got there.  So, the whole burned through the flow because eventually the Xeno died and it's blood oozed out and ate through the floor.  This released a lot of humidity into the chair room where the Engineer died.  This adds to the aging of the Engineer and made it look like the Engineer has been there for a long time, like it was said in the original Alien movie.  The heavy humidity really tried to decompose the Engineer.  Plus, the Engineer could have been in space for years on autopilot, so there is really no telling exactly how many years that Engineer was subject to heavy decomposition, but because of what was in the air of the egg room in the derelict, the Engineer appeared to look decades old.  So, on that derelict is David, still alive in pieces or he might have eventually burned out and shut down.  Maybe the future Alien franchise will bring David back many years after Alien: Resurrection.  That is apparently the plan anyways.  The plan being to have the future Alien franchise movies taking place many years after Alien: Resurrection.

Now, this story is in no way something I have thought for a long time.  I just read your post and thought I would try and come up with something... and I think I did come up with something that works with Alien canon.  Maybe I'm wrong though.  There are a lot of people on this forum which know much more about the Alien franchise than me.