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BigDave totally 100% agree with everything you said!!
dk that's a great marketing idea!! hahahaha
I had pointed this out recently that a lot had changed well a bit, between Conception == Alien: Engineers ==> Paradise ==> Prometheus and then how they changed things after.
My last reply HERE simplifies things...
So when we consider all those comments we have to reflect on what Process they was taken from... The Virus Statement i believe is clearly the Mutagen/Tool they use to Create Life the Sacrificial Goo, which allows for all life in contact with it to basically be broken down into Genetic Related DNA and then Reform into a Virus that passes on the Sacrifices DNA... in effect dropping down a Pile of Sacrificial Goo will Destroy all Life on a World and then allow it to restart within the same Image/Design as intended... The Black Goo would change that Design.. to something that instead contains Xeno-strain DNA.
I think the Xenomorph and Deacon and thus Black Goo is when the Sacrificial Virus/Tool is accidentally infected with a Organism/Parasite Related to the Xenomorph.
I may have to Post what the SOURCE i had passed on 2.5 years ago as they gave a number of hints... on Topic... i can pick out how they referred to the Goo/Creation Tool as being a Tool like Nuclear Power that has Good and Benevolent uses, but also can be used for Malevolent and Destructive reasons.
They then also brought up LV-223 and mentioned the Movie the Fly... where a Benevolent Invention for a Good Reason could lead to undesired Results via a Accident... AKA the Fly Entering the Teleportation Device... so i think the Source was hinting at something Accidentally coming into contact with the Engineers Tool to create those Horrors.
The Source claimed the Xenomorph Origins are a Parasitic Worm-like Organism that is related to Echinoderms and Cnidaria and have a varied Life Cycle.
I think regarding the Ultramorph Comment... we maybe need to consider its Origins was from discovering the Engineers Outpost that had a Outbreak where they was infected by the Creatures they had experimented on... they had created some Evolved Versions of these that then had infected the Engineers. So the Engineer was Face Hugged thousands of years ago.. and went into Cryo-sleep and was awoken by the Human Explorers who then condemned him to his FATE and he birthed the Ultramorph.
The Holloway/Shaw one is about the Black Goo that infected Shaw through Holloway and created a Hybrid Face Hugger that had some of Shaws DNA as well as the Mutagen Black Goo.
Thus the Deacon was born from a Human/Xeno related DNA Hybrid Face Hugger and why the Deacon had Human Traits included Enamel Teeth, 5 Digits on Hands and Feet and was born with a Placenta etc.
I think some people do misread the Clues... but then i cant guarantee if i have looked at them correctly... but i have seen Prometheus and studied all the material so many times i forget how many lol
Ultimately though regardless of clues, comments we need to remember FOX/RS keep on changing and evolving the course of the Black Goo and Xenomorph Origins and who knows where they Ultimately are taking it.
Capt Torgo Interesting. It could be a case of diminishing returns- the more that is put into it, the more it gets diluted?
IMO, prequels whiff of not having decent ideas to progress, so they start over. Some have done a good job while others have not.
I think a lot of the Problems are the Ambiguity and how it seems they are changing things as they go along without paying attention to what proceeded, RS and some others also provide contradictory comments to what we are shown.
It has ended up being a bit confusing... where as Spaights Draft it was DEAD SIMPLE! If we look at Spaights draft and his comments about his Draft.. this is what we get.
The Engineers could at one time Procreate normally, but they are a Race who Engineer Genetics and over time there Advancements over Millions of years meant they lost the Need/Ability to Procreate.
If we evolved to be able to make some diet or medication where our Organs never Age or Fail, where we have gained Genetic Immunity to almost all Diseases and Infections, where our Natural Life if well looked after is not longer expecting a 90 year Life Span... But Thousands if not 10's of the Thousands of years.... then indeed if we can live longer provided we do not suffer a Mortal Wound or Accident.. then maybe eventually the ability to need to Procreate could be lost.
The Sacrificial Scene was a way these Engineers had found something or created something that could indeed allow them to Pass on their Genetic Seed... The Nano Scarabs will consume and eat away at a Engineer Hosts body, they consume him Molecule by Molecule..
These Nano Scarabs then fly off, but they each have stored in them the DNA of the Engineers, they then fly off and bite a Female Primate... Injecting the Engineers DNA they consumed into the Primate and the Primate Evolves... it becomes a Mutant where its DNA is now a Hybrid with Engineer DNA and eventually this leads to MANKIND
They was taking the Panspermia theory to a different Level... especially in Prometheus.. where instead of the theory that a Comet or Asteroid containing Basic Life Crashed on Earth to allow Life to have developed.... is now replaced by the Disintegration of the Engineer DNA via the Sacrificial Scene as this basis for Life.
There was a Purpose a Agenda for this... the Engineers were perhaps a dying Race... if we Evolved to be immune to all illnesses and diseases if our Organs would never die.. so we are in effect like Vampires where only certain things can kill us otherwise we are IMMORTAL or indeed Live for 10's of thousands of years.... would we need to Have Children?
Eventually we may loose this ability? if so then we may live for a long time but eventually some day we may die, we may extend our Life but maybe we are never Immortal or even if some other event effected us to kill of a large number of us.. remember if we lived for say 100'000 years... surely we are not 100% IMMORTAL having our heads Cut Off, being blown up or falling into a Lake of Fire could surely Kill us.
Eventually such a dying Race would need someway to Seed their Genetics to carry on and Create life, and having no means to Procreate... they maybe would have to think of other means to do so.
The Sacrificial Scene offered this...
Surely a Advanced Race could Clone themselves? Maybe yes, but if at this point they are all MALE then maybe Cloning will only bring Males, and doing this over and over maybe brings Flaws?
So maybe the Sacrificial Scene was a way to maybe eventually bring back Females... this is THEORY i had for a While and to my suprise the Concept Work for Alien Covenant seems to Back this Up... like Spaights Draft did with my conclusion of the Black Goo.
Spaights Fifield Encounter he knocked over a Vase/Urn that unleashed Nano Scarabs... these had bitten Fifield and instead of him being infectected with Engineer DNA or breaking down... he Evolved into something related to the Xenomorph DNA.
THUS.... The Nano Scarabs in those Urns had consumed a Organism related to the Xenomorph.
Spaights draft the Sacrificed Engineer had taken a Cruciform pose during his Sacrifice and when we add all this together and replace Scarabs with Goo then the Answers are their plain to see all along.
The Question is why the Worship of the Xeno-strain? I would assume for a Race who lost the Ability to Give Birth that this provided them a way to Create/Give Birth to New Life.. and a Lifeform that they admired... and when they saw that Mankind was a Failed Creation.
Instead of the Reset Switch where they could release the Sacrificial Goo to Reset Creation as intended from the Start or even use Engineer DNA Goo.... they had become obsessed with the Xeno/Deacon Strain and saw this DNA as purer than their own and so they intended to replace us with this DNA instead.
If it makes things any easier and you cannot convert to mp4, you could send to me after you have got it how you like since I can convert and send to Facehuggers!. Just sayin'.
I look at WonderWoman or Get Out or Arrival= All newish up and coming directors who are very hungry and maybe their lack of ego allows them to collaborate with their peers. That's just my guess about ego as maybe a studio has forced them to be a team player. All those movies had great storytelling with logical characters and some even dealt with deeper philosophical meanings. However they did not turn those symbolisms into Thor's hammer to beat us over the head with. To be fair, I really disliked in Arrival "the dumb soldiers listening to Rush Limbaugh decide to blow the Aliens up" but I liked the directing and world despite not liking the film. Arrival sold well but was smart. I just fear that Ridley is going to push his narrative with or without the xeno or even help from the writers, etc. Everybody liked David from Prometheus imo because he was one of only two actors truly allowed to flex his acting muscles. By many liking him did that then mean that this whole prequel business revolves around a narcissist rogue Android. Do that Ridley fine, but Covenant writing and characters had to be like jedi magic writing and storytelling. What I saw was ear splitting dialogue from a Christian captain that just made me want to vomit. I could buy better walkie talkies at Walmart and then to boot these ninkompoops had radio etiquette of a chimpanzee with T's wife smacking her gums while talking on the radio about serious information. Astronauts are the cream of the crop and Ridley just does not get or gives no shit about that. He's a master a cinematography and sound audio but he is 1-1 with these prequels. He will get no more cash from me! I coulda just gone to the zoo instead of buying my ticket may 19th. It's pretentious drivel but I'm glad some fans enjoyed it.
Indeed i can see the other side of the coin if we try and connect the Brazilian Christ the Redeemer Statue as Christ with open arms to embrace his followers and to embrace peace.
But then how does this apply to the Deacon Mural if we suppose the pose is in a form of open armed welcome and embrace....?
I did a few posts back try and offer how we can look at it as this, but i see it still when i take the other side of the coin as the Engineers Embracing the Mural and not the Organism in the Mural actually demanding or implying the Engineers Should embrace it...
But then i guess the same can be said with the Christ the Redeemer Statue.... it may not say that its from Christ saying Embrace Peace and Embrace Christianity in my Name.
But maybe more those who created the Statue saying "look lets Embrace Christ, and this monument is their so we can Embrace Christ in the name of Good Will and Peace"
If we look at it like that and then take the view of those who built the Statue and apply that to the view of those who build the Mural in Prometheus, then i kind of can see how this could be.
I agree with this analysis.
Darn. My disguise probably won't work out. I guess I might have to do the old bank robber pantyhose over the head bit. Sunglasses too. I know, only the blind and assholes wear sunglasses indoors, but there it is.
Or Steve just thought it looked cool when he sculpted the head that way :) I actually think he intended the relief to come across as facing forward though. This is his 3D sculpt. Notice the 'eye' indentations.
@Nathan Adler - "Can you please provide the reference where "One of the designers said it was also a monument to science, art and religion"?"
Here is one.
I guess that David has built-in access to any Weyland's tech, and he is actually that someone who sent Nostromo to investigate LV-426. I think that David, Muthur, Ash are interconnected by single intellect. And it seems that David wasn't surprised about Covenant and 2000 colonists on board. He looked like he was waiting for this ship
Too small? We have flying insects that are just a fraction of a millimeter long on this planet. The motes in Prometheus and Covenant looked larger than that. Also, I did not say they were tiny mosquitoes. I said they look mosquito-like, with that long probiscis. Kind of wasp looking too.
Regarding where the spore/egg sacks come from, do you mean what animal laid them or how did they grow? Who knows. In the book David never specified exactly what animal they were grown in, just that the eggs grow in the host.
Definitely not something that needed any screen time wasted on it in the movie, as the general idea of how the pathogen works is already well known, but I wish Foster had gone into more detail on the forms of the pathogen in his novel. He said he did not have time. Maybe he will in the next one.
I definitely would not take any opinions stated in the documentary as canon unless they are definitively stated as facts, especially considering most of the designers started work with Spaith's scripts, then things evolved and changed with Lindelof's drafts. I think Steve was just stating what he thought. There are lots of conflicting opinions stated all over that documentary. That said, I agree with some of what he thinks. He designed the relief mural in the head room too, so he probably came up with a whole backs story in his head.
The on-screen text at the beginning of the Deacon enhancement pod is really the only definitive stuff in the documentary -
"Originally known as the Ultramorph, this final incarnation of the PROMETHEUS mutations was always intended to be a missing link of sorts between this film and the other entries in the ALIEN series. Effectively the unholy offspring of all the infected victims who came before it. This creature was originally intended to have more screen time, pursuing Shaw and David to the second Juggernaut ship, narrowly missing them as they leave the planet."
Other than the obvious relationship to the something-morph shown in the mural, nothing there indicates anything other than the Ultramorph being a new cross bred hybrid created from the family tree shown to be in the movie. Neal Scanlan made that same point in the Furious Gods too -
"Holloway is infected, he then impregnates Shaw, and from that Shaw gives birth, in a sense, to what we call the Medpod Creature. That then grows into the Trilobite…and that, ultimately the Engineer crossed with the trilobite, gives us what we call the Deacon, and he is, as far as the film is concerned, the penultimate combination of all of this."
He also said this in the Prometheus art book -
"It came from Shaw and Holloway, which then produced the Trilobite, which impregnated the Engineer, which then mixed its DNA with the Trilobite. We tried to hold on to some of Shaw, some femininity since it was born of a female before being born of a male."
Neal Scanlan - creature effects designer
What description in the concept art are you referring to?
IRaptus That seems lame! Maybe they could sell Alien and bill it as the "Sequel to the highly anticipated prequel, Alien Awakening."
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Perhaps we are a bit spoilt.
Although if we take A:C for instance.
I broke it down and looked for every scrap of evidence which would lead me to something more. Ive never done it at this level before.
Now i think A:C is a decent film. It is a very good throw-away action flick if we want a category.
Now i examined every piece of marketing for A:C. I wanted to build a story in my head and i achieved that. Before watching i had about 90% of the plot in order. I was happy.
Now after watching A:C i felt let down. Even though i knew there was little opportunity for reveals i still thought some small dialogue would bring me some of the answers i craved.
They did not appear.
So was i let down cos i knew the movie before i watched it?
No. I enjoyed the fact i worked it all out. Thats not what let me down.
I was let down because we were lead to believe that it was a sequel to Prometheus. RS said so b4 "the crossing" and the artwork lead us to believe it would contain Engineers. Plus many other quotes and such.
So i was let down, not because of the marketing showing us too much but because it was made out to be a sequel but had very little to do with Prometheus. Normally you get answers in a sequel. And some more questions. We got none and was promised more. Thats my take on A:C
So i guess with every quote being magnified and blew out of proportion the studio needs to be honest about what they are delivering unless the numbers will be badly effected.
The 6 or 7 / 10 A:C may of been a 7 or 8 if our reasonable expectations were met. How those reviews would look so different on YT.
We dont expect a classic after classic - just a decent follow up.
(which does what it says on the tin) ;)
One thing that surprised me, was just how bad the CGI Was for the first neomorph.
It seemed like a really bad B movie.
Same with the protomorph when it's descending the ladder, it's back/dorsal tubes go through the floor, I can't believe that was left in.
For the whole prequel thing, the only one I think is really solid is the Planet of the Apes series.
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I suppose we are spoiled here... But as others have mentioned already, the further you go into a franchise, the tougher it gets. You need to explain more with all the connections, capture what the first movies did, do your own thing, answer some questions (but make sure it's the, "correct," answer), leave other questions ambiguous (but hint enough to make it make sense), play ball with the studio, and try to please EVERY fan/movie-goer.
MonsterZero makes an interesting point. I can't honestly imagine how I would have reacted to the movie if it was the first in the franchise and was, like, a whole new ball game, but your post just highlights how a sequel/prequel/spin-off will always be doomed to comparison of previous entries.
Totally... i had my suspicions about this before the ADF Prequel Synopsis was announced, i wondered if it would cover the events prior to the The Crossing Prologue and after.
RS had suggested in interviews a lot about the AI, and i felt that AI would be playing a larger role, and looking how AC ended i wondered if AI was behind it all. The one extended Synopsis for AC where it claimed the Greater Threat was from a unsuspected source or something like that.. Had me wondering before i saw AC is the Ships Computer and company Secret Agenda like Special Order 937 going to be the biggest surprise threat to those Colonists...
It would appear ultimately it was David, but surely the colonist would have been a bit suspicious of him and so i still wondered does MUTHUR and those behind her Programing have something to do with it all.
After seeing AC, i was drawn more close to this kind of thinking and then no soon as the ADF Prequel Synopsis come around... i think certainly there is something at play with the Company... The Merger has not gone down well between some Parties... We had to wonder why would someone want to Sabotage the Covenants mission.
So there is a lot of interesting things going on behind the scenes as far as Weyland-Yutani Company not being completely on the same page... where indeed 2-3 parties may have their own alternative Agendas.. And i suspect that AI will play a KEY Role.... i think indeed we could be seeing some kind of SKY-NET Scenario here.. that in a alternative RS Alien Franchise could potentially lead to a Matrix kind of Plot as far as Machines over throwing and ruling over Mankind.
But only time will tell ;)
Indeed good point... i think the Problem as i have said a number of times with AC was what it was trying to cover.
They felt that Prometheus was not interesting to the majority of fans, and that more people would want to see a movie where the Xenomorph is Reintroduced rather than Dr Shaw and David finding these Tall (but not Giant) Bald Humanoids to ask why they do what they do and did.
So looking at the Problems with Prometheus they had to try and by-pass this part and bring us to a Aftermath of David and Shaws mission at the end of Prometheus, they could not just simply have the Covenant ship turn up out of the Blue and find David without explaining some Prometheus connections because this would confuse people who had never seen Prometheus. So they had to cover this to some degree. Disappointingly for Prometheus Fans... and still too much for those who disliked Prometheus.
RS felt David was the interesting Character from Prometheus and that a whole Story Arc around his Character Development and how he had evolved emotionally was something to be explored, which is why the Prologue Scene was added.
Then they had to bring in the Xenomorph, do some kind of Plot to show how they came to be and also showcase the Eggs, Face Huger and Big Chap and try and introduce some of that ALIEN Vibe... which they attempted.
Once they those Plots taken care of they had to do something a bit Fresh and so gave us the Neomorphs, and Experiments.
Then another Problem with Prometheus was Characters, fans could just not engage in them very well not like how they did with ALIEN or ALIENS and so they introduced a kind of Slow Build up like Alien had, they also threw in the Last Supper Prologue to help more.. but not every one would have seen that.
The Slow Build Up to set the Pace and introduce us to Character we may connect more with, and something Original and Fresh in the Neomorphs meant these had taken up a lot of Screen Time....
With having to loosely cover the Engineers and Prometheus themes a little and then introduce TWO Xenomorphs and fit it all within a 2 hour or so movie, meant that Sadly the Prometheus parts had to be brushed under the carpet and not covered much, they indeed covered DAVID and his Emotional State and Reasons for it.... and then when it came to the XENOMORPH they simply had to Speed Up the Gestation.
This no doubt left FOX with about a 2hr 15 Min Runtime.... which they wanted to cut down to make it more 2 hour Friendly and so Death Scenes had been shortened, the Prologue and maybe also some Dialog between Colonist and David in his Hide out.. may had to be trimmed, maybe the Prologue trimmed a bit.... Totally cutting some other Scenes like Daniels and Jacob Flash Back/Dream and maybe a few short scenes on the Covenant between the crew maybe before they landed on Paradise and After.
And the Ultimate Sacrifice was a rushed and short version of the Xenomorph on the Covenant...
The movie really needed a 2hr 45 Min and extra $50M Budget and Production time to really had gave us a more Polished Flick.
@dk
Yes, and that is what is happening with the Alien series. The first movies really got the imagination going.
Then people want answers. They do want answers, but it is as Spock said to Stonn: "...having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."
And, I think something similar happened to X-files. Some people liked learning the extent of the conspiracy and some people preferred the earlier, more mysterious episodes.
VivisectedEngineer Interesting point about a short being frozen in time and shrouded in mystery- that is the stuff that gets the imagination going. Another member wrote a short that was very brief, potent and to the point. It could have continued with sequels, but sometimes it best to leave the audience wanting more than wearing out the story's welcome.
@Kethol
Did you also read the description of the creature in the concept art as well? You do have a point that it could just be his opinion but if it's in the official release as info for the creature, shouldn't we take that as canon as opposed to fan theories? I'm not saying we shouldn't still debate this or have our own notions but where else do we derive facts if not from insiders? I guess we'll have to wait for an official comment by Ridley himself but I still stand by what I think. Doesn't the mural look more like a Deacon and less like a traditional Xenomorph?
I think the Problem is that its hard to really make Original and Engaging Stories nowadays, everything almost seems like borrowed from previous movies, its rarer that a Original kind of Story comes along and especially with Sci-Fi and Horror.
the 60's, 70's and especially the 80's was a Treasure Trove of Original ideas and Movies. Its now very rare when something Totally Original comes out.
Also a number of movies are remakes of the Classics, or based close to classics and they will always be compared to and have to try and get out of the shadow of any of the Classics.
Star Wars Franchise has suffered with this... where Force Awakens was not as well received by the older Generation of Fans, but it was a welcome introduction to the current Generation who was never Born during the Original Trilogy era or even Prequels. I felt for the older Generation Rogue One was more well received and indeed its all about Nostalgia and so i would assume if Force Awakens was to be set years latter and there would be no Han Solo, Princess Leigh or Luke Skywalker then i wonder if Force Awakens would have not gone down as well.
so i think this also effects the Alien Franchise, i think a lot was disappointed in Prometheus due to not showing us anything close to the Xenomorph.... Something that Alien Covenant tried to address.
Thanks Lawrence of Arabia! Figured it was time for a profile pic, lol. Oh man, that book sounds great...I am probably just going to order it on Amazon. If I wind up with two, I'll similarly foist the extra one onto a friend to enhance our range of conversational topics, like I did with the novel.
Just found the neomorph scaler! It's not for straws, is it? I wish I could find something like that, to put on our straws at the party.
@Lawrence of Arabia - "The Mural in Prometheus is The Deacon. In "The Furious Gods: The Making of Prometheus" it states it as so. When watching chapter 6 "Demons in the Dark" there is an Enhancement video that details this."
Nothing in The Furious Gods or the enhancement videos states this, unless you mean Steve Messing's comments. What he said sounded more like his thoughts and opinions though, not anything canonical.
"The Xenomorph was, in my mind, a descendant of the Ultramorph…it was the pure form of this kind of, almost this virus that these Engineers had created. They are a lot about sacrifice, so in my mind, there was an Engineer that sacrificed himself with this virus, and it created this horrific creature. This being that was going to eradicate planets. It was this parasite that would destroy the planet and then they could start over and re-birth it. They kind of worshipped it, and that is where you see this relief sculpture, where it’s almost a religious sculpture. As it got kind of, the virus spread and got polluted, the xenomorph was an evolutionary descendant that was not as pure.” Steven Messing
It sounds like he thinks an Engineer sacrificed himself to make the original we see in the mural.
Lol, I wrote two fan-fics that some people liked, and a few people asked me to write continuations/sequels for them.
But, I would be way too scared to do that because this fandom seems to have a habit of saying "Wow! I really love the first thing!" and then when the second thing comes they say "What!? That is not what I predicted was going to happen! Hate it!"
I think it's fun to make predictions and inferences, but people might have more fun if they keep an open mind about their predictions being wrong.
Here's the thing: a plot can either be one beautiful short story, frozen in time and shrouded in mystery OR it can be a long series that answers all your questions. It can't be both.
If you want your questions answered, that means that several possibilities (ones which you may have enjoyed contemplating) will be forever collapsed.
@VivisectedEngineer
Love your profile pic :) Also the Art and Making of is astounding lol There's a lot of fun tid bits, nice art and photography work, and a lot of insight into the movie and franchise. Hope you get it for your birthday! I'm wanting to pick up some of the figures now from Neca (like the cute Neomorph scaler) and some Funkos.
Me and my husband and my sister and my friends are all wearing Weyland-Yutani: Covenant shirts to my birthday!!!
...Also, I wound up buy two copies of the novel, because my friend loved Covenant but hadn't read the novel so I insisted she had to read it and gifted her my copy.
But like...two days later I bought myself a knew one.
I think there will also be a general uptick in sales for all Alien related merchandise.
There's some pretty cool Prometheus merch out there, like a Dr. Shaw action figure that comes with David's severed head.
I'm looking forward to my birthday because I know all my gifts are going to be Alien related. I especially want that "Making of" book, though. Thinking off just buying and wrapping it for myself in case no one gives it to me, lol.
What I liked about the Newborn was it's potential. Could you imagine it talking and what it would say? It felt like the next evolution in Xeno if albeit unnatural. Of course it was pathetic in A:R cuz it was still a baby but it was still pretty creepy with its human features and the way it killed. I wish they kept his genitalia lol The Ripley/Newborn interaction was natural to me, the Xenos are very sexual creatures, the Newborn saw Ripley as it's parent the way the Proto/Xenomorph saw David as his creator and Ripley had Xeno DNA in her so she had a connection with him psychologically. It was so sad watching him get sucked through that tiny hole into space :( That's my opinion though. I personally love all the Alien films but I'm weird.
I believe so. I mean, just look at the reception of A:C. As someone who recently just started in this franchise I thought it was a great film filled with dread and terror. It was masterfully directed/written but then people are so divided due to preconceived notions or how they feel things should be. Tbh it's like this in every fandom it seems from anime to comics, it's a shame cuz this stuff is suppose to be fun not so heated. It's only natural though, we are humans and we're very hard to please lol
Alien >>> Aliens > Alien 3 >>>.....>>> Prometheus > Alien Resurrection > Alien Covenant.
Not sure why some can hate Aliens. Imo, it is by far the second best movie in the Alien franchise.
Jaded. Very much so!
If I'd watched Alien:Covenant in 1979...I would have run screaming from the theater!! Watching Branson burn alive would have traumatized me.....Would have walked out then. Seeing Shaw's corpse would have sent me to the emergency room. Seeing someone give birth to a alien through the mouth!?!? *faint*
Someone watching the series for the first time and starting with Prometheus..then A:C...must think A L I E N is boring?
