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That’s what I keep hoping for myself, but I’m not expecting much for the future to be completely honest.
Trevorrow and Connelly have effectively more or less killed the franchise for me and with them two returning as well as the woman who was responsible for ruining Pacific Rim Uprising picking up a role in scriptwriting, I’m not really feeling any excitement for JW3.
It’s horrible I even say that knowing that Sam, Laura, and Jeff are returning for sizable roles and normally I’d be ecstatic, but that’s if the last two movies were actually any good.
Horrifically, this franchise is headed down the same road as many other critically acclaimed franchises that have already been ruined by today’s agendas, such as politics, social justice and overall creating an aura that is centered around, well... children.
I mean when I say I’m disgusted, I mean I’m completely appalled by how Hollywood is destroying once great things and have turned them into propaganda for the aforementioned reasons.
hopefully we get a fully grown dilophosaurus in the next movie
But that still didn’t give justice to the Dilos that were 10 ft tall in the book, and not to mention like you said, it was only a hologram. They had a great opportunity to introduce a full sized one in Fallen Kingdom, but just like everything in that movie, they massively under delivered.
well the hologram Dilophosaurus from Jurassic World was bigger than the JP Dilophosaurus, the hologram Dilophosaurus was the same size as Delta
I knew what you were talking about from the beginning lol. I’m just saying even though they didn’t go through with showing a full size Dilo like the one in the concept, they still have a chance to bring one in for a future installment given the points I stated.
I meant with the whole "showing Dilophosaurus was bigger than was shown in the first movie" concept. The only project that was going to show the real-life size of the Dilophosaurus got cancelled, and that that really sucks.
See what I mean?
I mean they still have a chance to shoehorn it in there (if they’d actually listen to the fanbase). Technically, the first JP did kind of hint at it with Nedry when he came across the one Dilo and said “I thought you were one of your big brothers, you’re not so bad.”
Naturally, he could have been referring to the other larger species of the park. However, it’s a perfect set up for bringing in a full sized Dilo.
Yeah, and I bet the fact that they cancelled the only project where that was going to be the case doesn't help either, does it?
It's so frustrating and disappointing.
Given you’re signature photo, I can definitely see that lol. I’ve always liked Dilophosaurus too and I’m disappointed with the JP series for not portraying them as their true size like in the book.
well my favorite dinosaur is the dilophosaurus
Ripley helped by leaving the shuttle hatch open.
The respect I have for Dryptosaurus coincides with the respect I have for dinosaurs such as Megalosaurus. Dryptosaurus was one of the first carnivorous dinosaurs ever discovered, in fact among the first theropods.
That’s why I love Megalosaurus so much, it’s what opened a new frontier of science and discovery due to being the first dinosaur ever unearthed.
Xenotaris
So do I, but I do have some favorites among them lol
S-Rex
Yeah, the Chinese Tyrannosaurs are really cool! But Dryptosaurus is probably my favorite non-Tyrannosaurid Tyrannosauroid and I don't think there was anything like it in China at the time, because it's such a primitive form.
Tbh, I like almost all of the Chinese Tyrannosaurs, Tarbosaurus and Zhuchengtyrannus most notably. I never was too big on Yutyrannus or Lythronax, however. Yutyrannus is considerable on account of its proof of feathers.
Well I love all Tyrannosauroids and I love all dinosaurs
As far as Tyrannosaurids, its probably Tarbosaurus or Albertosaurus, after them Lythronax, Nanuqtyrannus, Zhuchengtyrannus, Daspletosaurus, and Teratophoneus (no particular order). As far as TyrannosaurOIDS, it gets a bit tough lol
Very much agreed, I’d nonetheless tremble in excitement if I saw one in real life. My favorite tyrannosaur has always been Daspletosaurus, even since I was a kid.
Yeah, I think it's a bit over-loved too, and not the most interesting Tyrannosaur in my opinion. Still a cool creature, as any creature is, and is still pretty awesome.
I didn’t per say HATE it, I’ve just always had the opinion that it’s overly portrayed and that it’s unfair to continually shed light over it on account of new information found everyday on new and less understood dinosaurs. However, yes, I did have a bias against it in that respect XD.
I remember you, your that guy that hated Tyrannosaurus rex and wanted to give its name to Spinosaurus aegyptiacus.
You’re welcome, Broski! Btw, are you guys also experiencing a problem when trying to go from page to page on topics with more than one page of replies?
I also have the same problem with the multiple pages of topics and I have to always work my way backwards from the last page. Topics with more than 4 pages of replies I can’t even go through all the replies.
I don’t believe we have before either, like I said, I haven’t been around much at all for 5 years or so lol. However, I’m pleased to meet you as well!
Hello, S-Rex. Nice to meet you. I can't recall if we've met before, though.
Hahahaha, that last url you listed was my very first post on Scified. Like DAAAAAAMN I was a loose cannon lolololol. It’s hard to even fathom that at that time, there wasn’t any talk of a new installment for JP and it was still referred to as Jurassic Park 4.
https://www.scified.com/topic/37161
https://www.scified.com/topic/25643
https://www.scified.com/topic/32431
https://www.scified.com/topic/667
and https://www.scified.com/topic/1175
Did I read through those and not realize those were what I was looking for?
The thread is called “Top 10 Largest Theropods - Update” by Gigadino with 237 replies and it’s on page 23.
I honestly can’t tell you, it sounds like it could be but I’m not certain. Give me a couple minutes and I’ll tell you exactly which one.
Are you talking about the Carcharodontosaurus V.S. Tyrannosaurus one? Was that the event I was looking for and I didn't realize it?
I just found the event about a couple hours ago lol. Unfortunately, I forget the name and page, BUT I know it’s between page 35-38.
You’ll know it when you see it, it’s the one with over 200 replies. Also, if you see the reply count above like 30 on any discussion before 2015, you’ll know shit went down lol.
I know how to read through that, I kinda spent two months reading through it to find the event with no such luck. A search function would be really helpful.
Pleased to meet you as well!
The best way to do it is to go directly to the last page on the 67 or so page directory tabs.
To get to all that jazz, you need to go to that tab at the top of the screen that has the 3x3 squares next to the home tab, then tap on forums. After that, scroll down till you find the Jurassic Park/World forums and tap dinosaur discussions and you’re there.
Thank you for the welcome back and I’m pleased to meet you!
Yeah, I imagine its like cringing at a past memory at night except you have an entire archive of it? XD
Yeah, I spent a couple months reading through the archives trying to find some certain events, but I never was able to find them.
Anyways, glad to have you back!
I did make quite a name for myself back then, I imagine that’s how you already know me lol. I’ve recently went through the archives and read some of the discussions I had made/ commented on and I must say, in many cases I am utterly mortified lmao
Regarding the Hammerpede and Black Goo, we have to Remember this is something that has Evolved, Changed and Depending on what we look at at and what Source then we could be drawn to different Conclusions...
So some Ambiguity is there if you Watch the Movie alone... the Goo reacted in Various ways with No real Explanation (Spoon Fed on Screen), had they USED some of the Alternative Fifield Concepts then you would be drawn to something a little Different.
The Bottom Line is these are all to show what the Black Goo can do, they was (changed a bit with Fifield) to show us the Experiments and Pathogen on LV-223 has a connection to the Xenomorph on LV-426. The whole Hammepede Scene is a bit open to Interpretation it really comes down to the Instinct of the Pathogen, and what it seemed to show in General is that what it Infects and Mutates/Evolves (Creates) becomes a HIGHLY Aggressive and a KILLING Machine.
What Michelle has attempted (forgive me if Incorrect) is to give some Deeper Purpose with the Pathogen/Monsters, other than to have be a Case of just a KILLING Machine, or Merely that is only Instinct is Survival and Procreation.
I never read too much into Milburn/Fifields Psyche in regards to that Scene, i looked at it more about HUBRIS... Milburn may be Interested in his Biology and Excited about New Species.... he allowed this Excitement to override his Common Sense (but this was a PLOT Device/Convenience to allow for the Attack Scene) and so its a case of this DEADLY CRAP (Pathogen) does-not make Lovable Pokemen out of Infected Organisms.. a Infected Bunny Rabbit is not going to be something you want to PET ;)
I think its fine for People to want to add more depth to WHY these things are so Aggressive than just acting on Instinct..... and so in Regards to the OT... well more so the idea of Michelle's then having these Reactions be something thats Pre-Programed is very VALID especially if those who Created this INTEND it to KILL/DESTROY or if this is a Programed Safety Defense Mechanism to Eradicate those (Unintended, Meddling) who come into Contact with this stuff when they SHOULD-NOT as its NOT intended for them..
Forgive me for this Analogy if it makes little Sense or Relevance... if i could go for like a Comic Book like Story of a RACE who Create some Serum that would when Ingested Evolve them into Supermen of Sorts.... then as a Protection Defense you would Program this stuff so that it ONLY Effects your Species Genome/DNA with this GIFT... and any None-Matching Genome would instead suffer another Horrific Result.... be that Death, or some kind of Ebola like Outbreak or be Turned instead to Zombies and Pass on this Curse onto others via Attacking/Biting then Spreading this Curse....
In that Analogy such a Safety Measure would Insure other Species can-not Benefit from your Created Super Drug/Serum, and also so they Can-Not Study or Re-Engineer it (as its gets out of control quick) to then reap the Benefits that it would give to its Intended Creators.
But in Closing.... its Fine to look at the Hammerpeed as Intentionally Raping Milburn as it had been implied before that this is what the Face Hugger does by people who worked on ALIEN.... at that time we could Speculate this was Purely a Part of the Organisms Life-Cycle, it had to Rape its Host because this is HOW it would Procreate, and as this is a KIND of Procreation where the MOTHER of the Child to be Born (Chest Buster) has NOT given Consent to Birth and become Pregnant if you would.. with this MONSTER, then indeed this amounts to RAPE.
(In my Rework of Prometheus, i had Milburn have a Chest Buster, and showed a Killed Hammerpede had Tiny Eggs inside, to show more a Connection to the Xenomorph/Procreation Purpose also to tease said FATE to those Chest Busted Cryo Engineers).
I think its Perfectly Fine to however imply/explore that its NOT a Natural Procreative/Survival Instinct but its part of the Organisms Psyche because it Inherited it from the Basic Instinctual Psyche of the Host...
"Again things in a movie need not be perfect in regards to logic"
I think Ignorant Guy this with some of what Michelle had Mentioned in her Posts are the THINGS we have to Consider the Most.... that is just as i think you have Stated a Number of Times...
It really is about the STORY and PLOT which is Driven by the Characters and so Tiny Flaws, are what we should Overlook and NOT really be Dragged into every detail, because all that Matters is the Story Arc.... and so somethings are not explained or detailed, i am NOT sure those working on the Project even give some things any LEVEL of Detail and Thought.....
We can Speculate on the Organism, the Goo, and our Speculations and Debates could go into Detail Beyond what those working on the Movie had ever thought... and our Work/Speculation can always proved to be MOOT by Virtue of the Next Movie where those working on the Project can FREELY changed Details to SUIT their Story/Plot..... for Convenience
So your point Ignorant Guy is RIGHT on the Money ;)
I think at LEAST any Future Movie could become LESS Inconsistent, because while Working on ALIEN COVENANT they had came up with a ALIEN Rule-book... and so we can only Assume that means they Finally have how A-Z connects in terms of the Pathogen, Xenomorph and other Related Organisms/Results...
But ALAS..... with Disney in Charge then if we get any Continuation or a Future Movie, then who is to say they would STICK to what ever that ALIEN Rule Book had in it...
I think Gavin you make a Good Point there is always quite a lot about the Franchise regarding every Detail that has NOT been Covered or Expanded, or covered only in Novels and these Novels could be De-Canonized by Virtue of Future Revelations within Future Movies.
So there is always Room for Speculation because things can CHANGE, i am not sure the Space Jockey was the Right point though as Ridley Scott had suggested it was a Space Suit in the Mid 90's but a better Point in relation to your point is that as of even 2013 the Xenomorph was something that Existed and Created by the Engineers prior to the Prometheus Time-Line of 2093+, even as far as to Suggest the Derelict would have been on LV-426 for about 2000 Years (Give or Take a Few Hundred).....
HOWEVER... roll on to 2017 or the Year 2104 in the Alien Time-Line and they have CHANGED their Minds as far as those Eggs and their Origins and WHEN they was Created.... THIS is NOT to debate about such things, but in CONTEXT to your Point Gavin its to show that NOTHING can be Ruled Out and what is SET in STONE can be Changed.....
With Ridley Scott's Interest in the A.I then i feel a Revelation that the A.I is being Ran/Controlled by one of its OWN, is a PLOT that i do feel RS would have expanded on.
I think there is a Good Point Raised about MUTHUR in that WHY did she not just Disable Life Support..... so thats Conspiracy Over... However we have to look at Special Order 937, where we then have to ASK and regardless who Issued this Order, what we have to ask is WOULD that Order Take Priority for MUTHUR?
It did for ASH and we can Assume that MUTHUR would accept Orders at a Higher Level, than any Commands by the Ships Chain of Command. And so the CREW are EXPENDABLE
Which you could Argue then as to WHY she did not just GET-RID of the Crew?
Some Good Points on here about ASH/MUTHUR looking at the Potential of the Xenomorph and to Study the Organism at First Hand.... and so KILLING the Crew Via Life-Support would maybe ROB them of Information they could gain from watching the Organism doing what it does.
In ALIEN-COVENANT we see that David was watching and studying how the Xenomorph reacted on the Covenant, he could have SURELY got MUTHUR to Turn Off Life-Support apart from the Cryo-Sleep Capsules...
And so he was Studying how the Crew would Deal with the Organism, and he had to HELP so that he could Remain Hidden as Walter.... knowing also that he has Two Face Hugger Embryo's inside of him.
We could Speculate that IF the Xenomorph had not made it to the Narcissus Escape Shuttle then would MUTHUR had disabled the Self-Destruction?
If she (MUTHUR) was aware the Organism had reached the Shuttle then for her the Mission is Complete and Destruction of the Nostromo would be a HANDY way to Clean-Up what had gone down..
So its Interesting to ASK exactly HOW did the Xenomorph get Access to the SHUTTLE and could MUTHUR have helped?
Humanity is at a dead end.
MUTHUR + Synthetics + xenomorph = Supreme being. The perfect organism.
