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GuestPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
LEts round up what we know until now -the crew ( ore crews ) should be of 11-13 ( we still dont know if Pearce or Foster are part of the crew ) -the ship is named Prometheus but there can be another ship named MAgellan ..if the two act togheter ..or if one is a rescue vessel ..or a relict ..we dont know . -we know the the spall character die ...and maybe the wilson one too -we know that the crew is quite interested in some "cylinders" "eggs" that contain some crystals or green slime . -we know that there is surely an android character played by Fassbender and maybe another ..surely the character David is quite important to the story -there is surely a premise before the space trip ..that can explain the beginning of life on earth and/or some discovers or the planning that lead to the space trip . ( theron , Pearce and Fassbender can be involved in that part ) -there must me some sort of infection or insemination , something that make someone of the crew feel sick . -there are wheeled vehicles - they found structures very similar to the spaceship on LV426 -we know that the spall character is killed by an alien -we know that rapace is in love with logan marshall green character anything else ?
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GuestPrometheus ForumAlternative Stories around Aliens and Space Jokeys
wow - this past character bio is really good. Where did you get this from?
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CarterJPrometheus ForumAlternative Stories around Aliens and Space Jokeys
This back story/Bio is a good read. Where did you get this material?
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FrantzPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
Spall also have said that he will be killed by an "alien" ... assuming he will die quite fast in the movie ( hes surely not one of the central characters ) we can think that there will be clear "alien" enemies and not , or better not only , metamorphosis- contaminations things .
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
Frantz, I LOVE what you wrote. I remember watching the regular version in the theaters and consciously knowing something wasn't right with it....having a very terrible feeling that a lot of scenes were MISSING. Years later I was flabbergasted when I saw the extended cut, it was an entirely different movie, and what struck me the most was this, in several of the scenes we saw a thing that we never saw before, You are right, I think Lyncher is egotistical or was at that time, and I remember reading there were a lot of production problems in the U.K. But we saw some scenes that showed FULL SHOTS of the Xenomorph as it was eating some of the custodians and one FULL SHOT of the Creature grabbing one of the custodians from above pulling him up and devouring him in mid air. The autopsy scene of NEWT in that film was perhaps the single most terryfying scene in any of the films, only because of what it implied and not because of the gore or blood, it really wasn't that gory, what it was IMO was Fntastic Directing that was right in line with Ridley Scott's original thought process of showing "as little as possible of the creature" and having it still be terrifying, but Fyncher broke that rule later in the film in the ONE and ONLY way that made sense, showing a FULLSHOT of someone being eaten by the Xenomorph, which I had been praying for after both of the first two films failed to do that. I was utterly amazed at some of Cameron's shots in Aliens, but even he did not show a complete full shot of someone being eaten by a Xenomorph. I found it completely exhillerating to watch. But I do respect your opinion very much, and appreciated even more the way in which you presented it. My opinion is not a popular one on this subject, I have found that most people agreed with you. I have a really deep appreciation of the art of filmmaking and went to filmmaking school in colledge. So I always stick to my guns no matter what other people say or think, I just feel more comfortable being my self even it means sticking to my unpopular opinion. That said...Blazer1411 I absolutely was impressed with what you wrote. & I think you hit on something very important. I could never articulate it the way you did though it was a feeling that I could not express that resonated throughout that film... "Golic's obsession with Confronting it"... & the dread like tone of that film.
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Hudson25Prometheus ForumDisappointment?
@Frantz, that's interesting news to hear about Guy Pearce and Fassbender doing scenes together. I also wondered the same thing that Pearce could be the 2nd Android. If that's true, perhaps the two could be working together against the good of the crew for the company's benefit or even more interesting, both take opposing sides and eventually have a showdown that would be pretty awesome to see. As far as the goo/mutation angle is concerned, I rather like that idea and think it could bring on a whole new twist in the series. Of course that line of thinking would be venturing into "The Thing" and even "Leviathan" territory for those of you who have seen that one. I think the idea of making members of the crew the actual monsters is a really cool concept and should be explored further.
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
A good source (he's been right about everything up to now) released some info about the Spain shoot and Pearce's role. [b]Anonymous said... Fassbender has said that he plays a "butler". Last year, Vulture -which has so far has proven to be right on the money- reported that one of the parts is that of "an older businessman along for the ride".[/b] For me, Pearce is the older businessman (would explain the rumour he is in heavy prosthetics) and Fassbender is his android butler.I wouldn't be surprised if Pearce's character is the benefactor of the archaeological dig that finds the co-ordinates.
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
Haven't thought of either of those films in a while Hudson25 and I think "The Thing re-do-kinda-thingy" is being released quite soon. In Leviathan that monster was gray, huge and wide bodied and looked almost mechanical if I remember this right... and that's all I remember from that film. Please tell me how dreadfully wrong I am if I am. {and I think you're right about the goo and that for that exact reason it most likely won't happen, Ridley Scott wouldn't deviate like that would he...?...}.
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FrantzPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
Pearce and Fassbender are the best two actors of the group ..to be honest im not happy to see one doing the android and the other doing the old businnessman :D If its really that THEN the role of the "star" is back to noomi rapace and Idris Elba ...im curious to know the role of Ben Foster
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
One of the Full shots was when It grabs the DR. and then it [CRAWLS] over to Ripley and then there is another close up of it sticking it's face up to Ripley's Wicked!
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AlienPrometheus ForumOriginal Aliens are in the movie! Check out this news!
Actually Xeno's r in it, they will be redesigned and larger then the ones we are use to.... doesnt anyone read the trivia page?
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Once again Lindelof is asked how Prometheus is connected to Alien (a question I'm sure he's been asked a few too many times by now), but in this clip he also reveals: [b] "If there were a sequel to Prometheus, it would not be Alien. It would be it's own movie entirely because it goes off in an entirely different direction"[/b][i][u][/u][/i] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGBStEtUK6I&feature=player_embedded
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FrantzPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
then why they used the Weyland Yutani company ? EVERYTHING we know surely point to Alien and more you link the movie to the Alien universe ( androids , WY , space jockeys , cilinders/eggs ) the less you can escape "in an entirely different direction "
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
Hybrids are totally different to metamorphosis.The hybrid (Newborn) in Resurrection came about from cloning and I very much doubt AvP is going to have any influence what so ever. The original description of the comic con footage said it was blood on his finger, but I have read another description which states it is actually "goo" as it is moving. The picture actually says "abdominal" and could be a health check for all we know. If you notice the arms and legs and stomach are highlighted as well, seems to me like it might just be checking after a long hypersleep or something. [URL=http://s267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/Evilqtl_2007/Misc/?action=view¤t=afootagesnaps.jpg][IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/Evilqtl_2007/Misc/th_afootagesnaps.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
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MentosPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
It is an interesting one. I interpreted the liquid on Fassbender's finger as actual Human blood. In a write up of the footage he apparently cries in a scene too. So does he become human? Since I heard about the 'Mutation plot' there is something from the original Alien that I can't stop thinking about. [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7HTO3jP-_lk/Sh9ssZLuALI/AAAAAAAACyo/Sc2G6YHfbEI/s400/Alien+costume.jpg[/img] As you can clearly see on this picture, the forehead of the original Giger costume was built around a human skull. Do you think this is relevant, possibly an idea hashed out by Ridley in the original film? Or merely a coincidence; simply used to build the shape of the face? (Ps: Nice compilation picture Theusprom)
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FrantzPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
""And then the actual footage from the film starts, and its a huge flood of creeptastic imagery that recalls Alien but also a bit of 2001: A Space Odyssey. There are guys in pressure suits exploring an ancient chamber with weird hieroglyphs, and a guy in a spacesuit walking through a sliding door into a clean white chamber. And a guy (who might be Michael Fassbender) pulling a weird jelly-looking thing out of a canister. And as Ridley Scott's voiceover notes that things that may look small in the film will turn out to be important, there is a shot of a drop of blood on a finger. There is Charlize Theron on a table with bandages wrapped around her breasts, as though she's waking from hypersleep. And then the footage gets faster and more furious, with a guy in a visor looking down at something, a woman in a suit walking into a red entryway, and a globe, and then Scott says, "The cast find an establishment which is not what they expected it to be, it's a civilization but what we find in it is very uncivilized behavior." And then there is insane carnage and people with goop inside their space helmets and someone shooting a flamethrower, and mayhem breaking loose in confined spaces. Meanwhile, Scott's voiceover is saying that there will be biomechanoids and the film will "break new ground." We see a giant pale planet with rings around it. And then we see Charlize Theron doing pushups naked. Says Scott in the video, "There is a DNA of the original Alien, [but] that's as far as it goes, everything else is completely different. It's all about everything." And now the people in the footage are crying and screaming and freaking out and the video is flickering like an interrupted signal. And Scott concludes, "Of course, what i want to do is scare the living shit out of you."" yes it dont say white blood ore red blood ( i saw a youtube videos that said white one , but all the others call it simply blood which can mean red one ...also the goop thing inside the helments is very interesting ( and can support in some ways your theories ) ..i remember that when i saw Alien for the first time i thought that the monster was a sort of "the thing from outer space" jelly goop affair . Maybe we return to that ?
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
Eventually found the description I was looking for about what was on his finger. This is from another forum i frequent, from a guy that seen the footage from comic-con. [b]I don't know much about it, but I did found it interesting. On the clip, an index finger is shown with some weird gray liquid (just to give an example kinda like the spiderman3 venom black thingy http://digitalcontentproducer.com/mil/features/gt02t_comp_v39_200.jpg) that is like expanding into the finger. In some sites it is said that is blood, I don't think it was blood at all because it was like moving, If I had to guess form the leaked plots I would say is maybe the terraforming stolen tech... oh, and it is also shown first in a big container. that's what think it can be.[/b][i][/i]
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
The main creature in Alien 3 was a Natural Hybrid as well. And I completely disagree with every single person on earth that Knocked Alien 3. The extended version of the that film is remarkable. A true JOY to watch , and had some highly original ideas in it was well as some direction by Lyncher that was so ahead of it's time no one really understood or even appreciated it. IMO Alien 3 was a highly entertaining film, all 4 had something unique to them, and I hate when people say tings like "should have" or "would have" or "could have" because all that matters is what IS. Each film is what it is, and should be appreciated for it's special and unique place in the franchise/storyline. The "goop" idea is cool, and really nice speculation but in the end all that counts is that the main idea here is explaining the origin of the eggs and the original creature itself which Scott, Lindham, Spaiths, Weaver, and everyone else who is even remotely connected to the film has stated over and over and over again...is it's focus. and lastly, however thus film plays out, if it does not follow some highly unlikely and pre-conceived notion I have built up in my own head of how it should there is no way I am going to be disappointed just because it does not. This is Ridley Scott's film, not Mine and not anyone elses. It's Dan O'banaon and H.R. Gigers creations , not mine and not anyone elses It belongs to the people that made it/make it/continue to evolve it/work on it/in it/because of it, and in the end, I am quite confident in all of them and in the fact that this film, in all likeliehood is going to make science fiction history. Most importantly, I have complete faith in all of them, and that no matter what, this film, like Alien 3 was in it's extended format, will be a JOY to watch, a complete feast for the eyes...and in the end...a perfect addition to the storyline we have all embraced since 1979.
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MentosPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
Ooo that's pretty cool. Another thing I forgot to mention in my first post: In [b]Aliens[/b] the human colony on Lv-426 is successfully terraforming the planet. Where did that tech come from? In my mind the 'fake plot' that leaked never seemed too unreasonable, I don't see why it can't be the real thing.
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tarPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
You might be spot on Mentos, but the story idea I heard, admittedly awhile ago now, was that the Space Jockies were using us as a form of life to us and get inside our thoughts, supposedly to the point were it was said there was one scene inwhich they use two hetrosexual men to have sex with one another as they have never seen humans before! Pretty scary stuff. Saying that, I suppose that also could be in the same plot as the one you mentioned. One thing I think is very likely though, Ridley keeps saying at the end of describing the plot ".........and something else" and is constantly comparing it to 2001. I think he really wants a horror like Alien, but also wants the audience to ask ourselves some big questions. We are very likely going to see a form of life that through the plot is going to scare us because of the questions that we have to ask ourselves, which, as we all know, is as scary as anything we see or hear.
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FrantzPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
Alien3 was a disaster not because is a bad movie but because it ruined the franchise , thats enough ...and after that it was not possible to resurrect it . The ego of who made Alien 3 ( director , scripts ) is the responsable . You cant throw away the work of 2 directors like Scott and Cameron because you are a great director wannabe like Fincher ( that proven later to be a good director but not at the level of the other 2 ) . Cameron did show more respect to Scott story . So for me alien 3 is a franchise disaster . REturning to the point ...the LV426 terraforming operations did not show something "organic" tools but is also true that Scott will not want to be connected too much with Aliens !
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ChrisPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
[quote][i]I think he really wants a horror like Alien, but also wants the audience to ask ourselves some big questions. We are very likely going to see a form of life that through the plot is going to scare us because of the questions that we have to ask ourselves, which, as we all know, is as scary as anything we see or hear[/i]. - Tar[/quote] That was very well said Tar, and I agree with you there 100%. I can't really expand on that since you put it so well, haha.
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
I understand everyone's frustration about Alien3 however I RESPECTFULLY disagree completely that it "ruined" the franchise which is just plain not true, if that were the case "Resurrection" never would have been made and neither would this film. And David Fyncher is one of Britian's and the world's most respected directors today, something Ridley Scott would tell you himself. The chase scenes in that film through the tunnels and the killings themselves by the creature were infinitely better in the extended version of Alien3 than they were in any of the other 3 films. It isn't even close...and anyone that says different hasn't seen the extended version of Alien 3. & In two of those scenes you see complete human bodies being devoured by the Xenomorph. The first natural reaction every single person has that has ever watched that with me, is "WOW, way better than in any of the other films", and it isn't even close...the death scenes are way way better there. I understand completely why you and so many others never liked it, but from a standpoint of film knowledge and technical detail I have never heard even one solid argument as to why, all I have heard for however many years is "Ripleys dead they killed the franchise"... NO they didn't...period. This film and the last one are PROOF outright of that. And this one Is "prolly" going to turn out to be the best one out of all of them.
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FrantzPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
even if technically Alien3 is very good that dont mean is a good movie , in fact is a very good movie but a BAD alien movie . And honestly i dont like fincher , i smell his ego in every frameshoot . But thats are my opinion and thankfully you have yours ..shake hands and i respect your opinion . Regarding the Hybrids/metamorphosis thing i was thinking 2 things 1) the only ones that cant be metamorphed are the androids ... PEarce can be VERY WELL the 2nd android ... 2)They are filming in spain some scenes with Pearce and Fassbender MAYBE they are fighting back AFTER all the humans are killed ?? I like that idea ..the 2 Androids that avenge the humans destroyng the space Jockeys !!
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Shaka, When the walls fellPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
Alien 3 is as good as the first 2 films if one can look at the film seperately from the the other 2. the the drop off from the alien 4 and the avp series is signifigant. i think that the first 3 films form the basis from which the fan following of the film originates. i agree that the extended version of the film is a must to fully appreciate what is being said in the film, golic's obsession of the alien and his need to confront it resonate with the hardcore fan in a way that alien and aliens do not. in the first 2 films the future is depicted as dark, cold, and dreary, where circumstances are dictated by a manevolant group which is working for the good of a company and not mankind. this theme of course is present in all the alien films as well as avp, but i think where alien 3 stands alone is that the alien itself, more so than any other film, becomes the personification (so to speak) of everything that is evil and wrong in the universe. the darkness of the films is what draws me and i believe fans across the board to these film. but i also think the darkness of the films and dim picture of the future steers mainstreamers away. my wife and son clear out of the room everytime one of the movies is on, why is that? because the darkness and dread of the movies frightens them more than anything, which is personified by the alien, which is done masterfully in alien 3
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FrantzPrometheus ForumPatrick Wilson talks Prometheus
Very nice and promising words from Wilson ... he could have said " was great to work with Ridley scott ..etc etc " and instead he said 4-5 times that the script is great ...that is very interesting .
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Ghost SolitarePrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Thoughts....two ways to think about this. If the signal was heretofore masked by local interferance due to it's limited range the Nostromo might have been the first vessel to detect it. The ship itself was probably programmed to notify the Company in the event of just such an occurance. The company potentially had time to begin deciphering the message before relaying orders back to Nostromo. This packet may have also contained EMERGENCY COMMAND OVERRIDE 100375 NOSTROMO REROUTED TO NEW CO-ORDINATES. INVESTIGATE LIFE-FORM. GATHER SPECIMEN. PRIORITY ONE INSURE RETURN OF ORGANISM FOR ANALYSIS. ALL OTHER PRIORITIES RESCINDED CREW EXPENDABLE. Scenario 2 If the signal were detected by a orbiting radio array, or a ground based installation some time prior to the ill fated last leg of the Nostromo. The nature of the transmission would definitely have been decoded. Though this is less likely as anyone with the proper listening equipment would have been able to detect the transmission, it would have been a race to get there first. That's just my take on things. Ghost Solitare
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FrantzPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
The big problem i see is that 1) if someone of the crew survive THEN WeYu should know everything about the alien races and THEN the Nostromo mission was already planned but since everything look fossilized we have to assume that 2) all the crew die ... however a movie with a bad ending always flop ( there must be always a sort of compensation and sacrifice for a just cause is not often enough ) 3) the android survive and decide to keep it for himself ( a bit kiddish imo )
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tarPrometheus ForumAlternative Stories around Aliens and Space Jokeys
Umm, well, it's different! At least your idea is original and thats a hell of a lot more than the recent Alien films. Unfortunately I think your idea never really explains what this "ball" actually is, or why Ripley ends up there. Also, beyond the premise, it does'nt sound like you have enough in it to keep an audience interested in such an extreme idea. Sorry.
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Ghost SolitarePrometheus ForumAlternative Stories around Aliens and Space Jokeys
Just as a side note, if you are curious about the settled systems and politics of the Alien universe. You can check out this site. It has many interesting factoids, and touches upon things mentioned in both Alien and Aliens. As far as fiction is concerned it helps give a map of the territory covered in the films. http://zenade.angelfire.com/AVP/colonies.html 13 Jul 2069 – SE Brett born in Houston, Texas. 27 Feb 2076 – AJ Dallas born in Wolf Point, Montana. 04 Feb 2080 - JT Parker born in San Diego, California. 20 Apr 2083 – GW Kane born in Borehamwood, Hertfordshire, United Kingdom/EU (Dual nationality) 04 Jul 2076 - United States has Tricentennial Celebration and issues special patch to all active members of the US Space Fleet, both military and commercial. 2088: The United Kingdom forms the Seventh Union, joining forces with Japan and a number of developing countries to form the Third World Empire, which forms its own military and commercial space fleets. Interplanetary commerce and mining flourishes in deep space, with transnational corporations such as Weyland-Yutani. 07 Jan 2092 – EL Ripley is born in Olympia, Luna. 07 Jan 2092-18 Apr 2110 - Ripley spends childhood in lunar quarantine facility during outbreak of XMB virus on Luna. Tests negative for XMB. 07 Nov 2093 – JM Lambert born in Ontario, Canada. 15 May 2094-21 Dec 2095 - Brett works as hardware specialist for Solari Energy Corp at Osaka solar energy plant. Employment terminated. 01 Feb 2096-16 Jul 2096 - Brett pilots high-speed cargo vehicles for Ridton Corp through Iranistan war zone. Employment suspended. 18 Jul 2096-04 Dec 2096 – Brett receives treatment for alcoholism at Ridton Medical Facility (London) Treatment successful. 11 Sep 2096-23 May 2100 - Kane attends Weatherly Private School. Graduates with honors. 15 Sep 2097-21 Oct 2101 – Brett serves as Assistant Engineer on Ridton Corp deep-sea vessel Ozymandias, under Captain Ivey. 15 May 2099 - Dallas graduates Mercerton Flight Academy. (Flight Status C) 19 Sep 2100-30 May 2104 - Kane attends Gunning Foss Military School. Graduates at top of his class. 18 Jan 2102-21 May 2108 – Brett attends Houston School of Astrophysics and Interstellar Engineering. Graduates. 23 Jan 2103-04 Dec 2105 - Dallas serves as Pilot on UTX Ganymede military cargo vessel, under Captain Britten. 2104 - Third World Empire forces North and South America to consolidate their own economic and military might to form the United Americas. United Kingdom becomes part of UA soon after. Earth becomes the ‘inner city’ of the solar system, with upper and middle classes moving off-world. Expansion reaches far beyond the solar system. 06 Sep 2104-13 Feb 2108 - Attends Bryce-Watkins Medical University. Expelled for substance abuse. Treated for drug-inflicted embolism and stress. Treatment successful. 09 Jan 2105-14 Jun 2107 – Parker recruited into United Americas Outer Rim Defense Fleet, stationed at Skyfire Down. (Rank: Private.) Serves as mechanic of heavy land transport vehicles and officer shuttles. 01 Jun 2106 - Dallas commissioned into United Americas Outer Rim Defense Fleet. Stationed at Liberty Echo. (Rank: Lieutenant) 14 Jun 2106-17 Feb 2108 - Dallas serves as Pilot on UAS Leviathan fast attack vessel, under Major Baines during Torin Prime Civil War. (Flight Status A) 14 Jun 2107-01 Aug 2107 – Parker promoted to Corporal. Serves as chief mechanic at Skyfire Down UAORD base. 01 Aug 2107-21 Feb 2108 – Parker is captured by J'har Rebels during Torin Prime Civil War. Imprisoned at Concentration Camp GR-161. Establishes undergound black market for POWs. 21 Feb 2108 – Parker escapes from Concentration Camp GR-161 during the Liberation of Torin Prime. Constructs emergency escape vehicle (EEV) from scrap. 23 Feb 2108 - Dallas promoted to Captain following Liberation of Torin Prime. Receives the Sunburst Medal of Honor for meritorious service. 01 Mar 2108 - Dallas given command of UAS Archangel troop carrier. (Flight Status AA) 14 Jul 2108-09 Nov 2111 – Brett serves as Assistant Engineer on Weyland-Yutani waste disposal vessel USCSS Corazon Oscuro, under Captain Speight. (Flight Status C) 16 Sep 2108-18 May 2112 - Kane attends Wellington Academy (Suffolk.) Graduates with Masters of Engineering. (Flight Status C) 30 Oct 2108 - Parker receives Honorable Discharge from UAORD. 19 Dec 2108 - Parker returns to Earth. 05 Sep 2109-29 Mar 2113 - Parker attends San Diego School of Astro-Engineering. Studies incomplete. No degree awarded. 25 Dec 2109 - UAS Archangel destroyed in enemy attack during peace-keeping operation on Thedus. 15,293 lives lost. Ship unsalvageable. Dallas’ flight status suspended. 03 Jan 2110 - Dallas receives Dishonorable Discharge from UAORD. (Flight Status Revoked) 04 Jan 2110-28 Apr 2113 - Dallas’ whereabouts unknown.. 24 June 2111 - Ellen Ripley gives birth to a daughter, Amanda. 15 Sep 2111-25 May 2115 - Ripley attends Evansbrook Academy. Shows aptitude for ethics, law and corporate affairs. Graduates at top of her class. 10 Nov 2111 – Brett fails blood alcohol test. Flight Status suspended. 09 Jan 2112 - Brett undergoes cerebral detox procedure at Weyland-Yutani Medical Facility, Titan. Minor complications arise: some neurological damage evident. 09 Jan 2112-31 Mar 2113 – Brett undergoes therapeutic recuperation at Weyland-Yutani Medical Facility, Titan. 12 May 2112 - Lambert graduates at New Ontario University with Masters of Astro-Cartography. 01 Jun 2112-18 Sep 2112 - Lambert interns in Astro-Cartography Dept. at Ridton Corp, London/UK-EU. 07 Oct 2112 - Lambert marries Xander Chapman, Director of Astro-Cartography, Ridton Corp. 28 Oct 2112-05 Feb 2114 - Lambert serves as Shipping Lane Trafficator for Farside Lunar Mining (Plymouth/Luna-UA.) 28 Oct 2112-02 Nov 2113 - Kane participates in UK/EU archeological dig on Konor Minor. Co-supervises Eldorado Exploring Expedition with Dr. Elisabeth Monygham. 03 Apr 2113 - Brett passes Weyland-Yutani Ment/Psych/Cog-5 exam. Flight Status restored. Cleared for assignment. 19 Apr 2113-28 Oct 2117 – Brett serves as Assistant Engineering Tech at Weyland-Yutani Fusion Reactor Facility on Titan. 28 Apr 2113-09 Sep 2113 - Dallas smuggles weapons and medical supplies into the Solomons on civilian cargo vessel The Vidar, under Captain Joshua. 02 Oct 2113-13 Dec 2113 - Parker freelances as mechanic/engineer for Mexcorp, serving on various unauthorized medicinal cargo ops. 14 Dec 2113-04 May 2114 - Dallas freelances special transport ops of hazardous materials for Weyland-Yutani in the Solomons. (Probationary Flight Status D) 07 Jan 2114-29 Apr 2115 – Parker serves as Assistant Engineer at United Americas Lightspeed Accelerator Threshold, Neptune. 10 Feb 2114 - Lambert divorces Xander Chapman, former Director of Astro Cartography Ridton Corp. 17 Feb 2114-06 Dec 2114 - Lambert serves as Assistant Navigator on Red Star Lines pleasure cruiser Infinity (Mars-Orion route.) (Flight Status C) 21 Jul 2114-03 Dec 2118 - Dallas purchases civilian cargo vessel Tremolino. Freelances cargo and transport ops for Weyland-Yutani throughout the Outer Rim Territories. (Flight Status C) 2115 - White Dwarf Complex purchases Red Star Line and uses it to transport and rotate crews for the corporations. Farside Lunar Mining & Lifting establishes total economic and political control over lunar settlements of Kulik I, Mach, Leibnitz and Icarus. 29 Jan 2115-01 Aug 2118 - Lambert serves as Navigator/Comm Officer on Ridton Corp salvage vessel Leggatt, under Captain Leigh. 05 May 2115-19 Oct 2117 – Parker serves as Assistant Engineer on Weyland-Yutani commercial cargo vehicle USCSS Otago, under Captain Mortenson. 01 Jun 2115 - Ripley is recruited into Weyland-Yutani's Horizons Beyond officer training program. (Trainee Flight Status CC) 09 Jun 2115 - Dr. Elisabeth Monygham killed in decompression accident on Kellerat (LB-329). 16 Oct 2115 - Ripley successfully negotiates end to hostage crisis on Weyland-Yutani shuttle craft Erebus. 49 lives saved. 8 terrorists convicted. 14 Dec 2115-29 Oct 2117 - Kane serves as Mission Analyst on UK/EU colonial expedition in the Outer Rim Territories. (Flight Status B) 21 Dec 2116 - Ripley completes Horizons Beyond officer training program, with honors. 02 Jan 2117-19 Nov 2117 - Ripley serves as Junior Warrant Officer on commercial cargo vessel USCSS Kurtz, under Captain Archbold. (Flight Status BC) 27 Oct 2117-01 Sep 2120 – Parker serves as Engineer on Weyland-Yutani commercial cargo vehicle USCSS Nonnabo, under Captain Keeney. (Flight Status C) 01 Nov 2117-13 Jul 2118 - Kane serves as First Officer on UK/EU colonial transport vessel HMS Sabretooth, under Captain Redd. (Flight Status BA) 03 Nov 2117-01 Sep 2120 – Brett serves as Engineering Tech on Weyland-Yutani commercial cargo vehicle USCSS Nonnabo, under Captain Keeney. 01 Dec 2117-08 Mar 2118 - Ripley serves as Warrant Officer on Weyland-Yutani cargo vessel USCSS Sephoria, under Captain Eliot. 10 Mar 2118 - Ripley’s request for maternity leave denied by Weyland-Yutani Corporation. 17 Mar 2118 - Ripley files civil lawsuit against Weyland-Yutani. 18 Mar 2118 - Ripley’s flight status suspended. Salary suspended. 04 Apr 2118-19 Aug 2118 - Ripley file sealed under court order. 19 Aug 2118 - Ripley’s request for maternity leave approved. Request for reinstatement of flight status approved. Request for salary increase approved. 13 Sep 2118 - Lambert marries Lordan Hessutt, Executive Officer on Ridton Corp salvage vessel Leggatt. 21 Sep 2118-19 Dec 2119 - Kane serves as Executive Officer on Weyland-Yutani salvage vessel USCSS Kenamor, under Captain Kahn. (Flight Status AB) 11 Oct 2118-19 Dec 2119 - Lambert serves as Navigator on Weyland-Yutani scout ship Adowa, under Captain Payne. (Flight Status BC) 19 Sep 2119-27 Oct 2119 - Ripley goes on maternity leave. 16 Nov 2119-12 Jul 2120 - Ripley serves as Warrant Officer on Weyland-Yutani cargo vehicle USCSS Sotillo, under Captain Rosendo. 07 Dec 2119 - Tremolino decommissioned. Crew disbanded. 2120 - With interstellar travel commonplace, mining colonies are established as far as the Solomons on the galactic rim. The transnational corporations hold immense power in the colonies. 03 Jan 2120 - Lambert divorces Lordan Hessutt, Executive Officer on Ridton Corp salvage vessel Leggatt. 04 Jan 2120 - Dallas given command of Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo. (Flight Status B) 05 Jan 2120 - Lambert serves as Navigator on Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas. (Flight Status B) Kane serves as Executive Officer on Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas. (Flight Status A) 10 Aug 2120 - Ripley serves as Warrant Officer on Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas. (Flight Status B) 10 Sep 2120 – Parker serves as Engineer on Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas. (Flight Status BC) Brett serves as Engineering Tech on Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas. 10 Jun 2121 – Ash is assigned as Science Officer on Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas. (Flight Status A) 12 Jun 2121: Commercial towing vehicle Nostromo leaves Thedus in the Solomons for Earth. 2122: 3 June (Flight Time - 5 November) - Nostromo is diverted to planetoid LV-426 in Zeta-Two Reticuli system. 2122: 4 June (Flight Time - 6 November) - In deep space, the crew of the commercial starship Nostromo is awakened from their cryo-sleep capsules halfway through their journey back home to earth and rerouted to investigate a distress call from an alien vessel on the planet LV-426.
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
Yeah Mentos I sort of think you have hit the nail on the head. The "goo" in the urns is definitely integral to the plot and I think you may be right about the metamorphosis of some of the crew into creatures. This picture could be one of the crew undergoing a horrible change, well that's how it looks to me. [IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/Evilqtl_2007/Misc/xlarge_scream.jpg[/IMG] And this Comic-Con footage was said to be very relevant to the plot. [b]He has some of the "goo" on his finger[/b] [IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/Evilqtl_2007/Misc/images.jpg[/IMG]
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FrantzPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
i do not agree ... genetic hybrids were already in Alien 4 , plus there are other hybrids in Alien Vs Predator ...so is already an used thing and not as "scaring" as the facehuggers thing ...also a big success like District 9 widely used the genetic contamination thing . The liquid you see on the finger is the white blood that androids have ( as reporters said ) ALSO in some frames of the video we see an ABDOMEN checkup ... i dont think is a coincidence
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NeurionPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
WOW! There’s certainly a lot atheistic propaganda being spewed across the PROMETHEUS forum today. You know, I had an existential conversation with a friend one day. During the conversation my friend said, “You know what? I think that if even if God did NOT exist, people would invent one…and so they have. In response I said, “Well that’s interesting, I think that even if God DOES exist, people will try to find a way to un-invent or deny this God…and so they do. I find it interesting that folks like “spacey freak” are willing, and are so readily eager to embrace the concept of a “merely” extra-terrestrial (non-divine) god or creator, while simultaneously ridiculing theological theories that have been held by scholars, philosophers, and men of science…with “superior spelling skills”… for MILLENNIA! I don’t mean to come across as didactic. It’s just that “spacey freak’s” statements reminded so much, of the afore mentioned conversation, that I felt compelled to post it. Moreover, it’s amusing…and at the same time, SAD to me, that the member wrote that there is no TRUTH. In actuality, all of nature is truth. Trouble only comes in to “paradise” when the TRUTH is either misunderstood or intentionally denied or attacked. The fact is that approximately 97.5% of the (non ant) human population believes in some form of a supernatural God(s)…not including potentially powerful extra-terrestrial lifeforms i.e. Space Jockeys. I sure hope the PROMETHEUS film does not go in this presumptuous and theologically and scientifically dismissive direction. Remember folks, good science does not rule out possibilities without proof. To rule out the possibility of God(s) seems very Unscientific…at least to me. God Bless…if there is one, ~Neurion
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Well it's all in the title Neurion.Stealing fire from the gods and all that.I don't think they called it Prometheus out of invention.I think creation (creatures and planets) will play a big part in the movie. About your discussion with your friend -People will always need to something to believe in.Always have and always will. Quote - "The (space) journey, metaphorically, is about a challenge to the gods," Scott said. But Scott's ambitions with Prometheus go far beyond simply restarting a hit franchise. The British director said the film's storyline, and script by David Lindelof, was partially inspired by the writings of legendary Swiss sci-fi writer Eric van Daniken. Van Daniken, author of 1968 bestseller Chariot of the Gods, is best known as the first proponent of the so-called ancient astronaut theory, which holds that aliens kick-started civilization on earth. "NASA and the Vatican agree that is almost mathematically impossible that we can be where we are today without there being a little help along the way," Scott said. "That's what we're looking at (in the film), at some of Eric van Daniken's ideas of how did we humans come about." - Quote
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NeurionPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Hey Theusprom, I really don’t have a problem with the filmmakers grafting van Daniken’s hypotheses/theories into the PROMETHEUS film. Van Daniken’s concepts do not necessarily preclude the possibility of the existence of a God(s). They simply hold that extra-terrestrials might have visited, assisted in, or “kick-started CIVILIZATION on earth…not CREATED human life on earth. On van Daniken: Several scientists, such as Carl Sagan and I. S. Shklovskii, have written about Däniken's paleocontact and extraterrestrial visitation claims. Although Sagan did not rule out the possibility of visitation, he insisted that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", which Däniken fails to provide. Däniken claimed that a non-rusting iron pillar in India was evidence of extraterrestrial influence. Later, Däniken admitted in a Playboy interview that the pillar was rusty and man-made, and that as far as supporting his hypotheses goes "we can forget about this iron thing." Some also question von Däniken's credibility, as he has also knowingly put forward fraudulent evidence to advance his hypotheses, such as photographs of pottery "depicting UFOs", supposedly from an archaeological dig dating back to the biblical era. The PBS television series Nova determined that this was a fraud, and even located the potter who made them. When confronted with this evidence, von Däniken argued that the deception was justified because some people would only believe his ideas if they saw actual proof. As far as your statement: “People will always need to something to believe in. Always have and always will.” This need to believe in something…where do you suppose it comes from? Was is it born spontaneously, out of the randomness of evolution or natural selection…or was it implanted or inherited by a sentient higher power? ~Neurion
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Neurion, That is a brilliant question and I am not sure I can give you an answer. I think it was part of the evolutionary step to begin with, things we couldn't explain - like the Sun and Moon and stars.Praying for crops and a good hunt, that sort of thing.In modern times I think it might be something as not wanting the physical existence to be the end of everything.Perhaps people need to believe there is something after we die, after all it is depressing to think once we peg it that's it. Yeah and I agree with the comments about Däniken's credibility, he can sound like a loon when he wants to, but I do think they are going to try and weave this sort of plot element into Prometheus.
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
I agree with you that it is the name of the ship, I just didn't go as far as to connect THAT with what the actual meaning or it's representation in Greek mythology. So, they got these Atmospheric Compressors that make the air breathable, we see them via Bishop in ALIENS... & It would seem that this art of "TERRA-FORMING" is KEY to the entire plot. Great stuff, and each day that goes by I get more and more excited to see what is sure to be the MASTERPIECE of our times as far as Science Fiction Film goes.
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FrantzPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
is the WY that give the ship the name of Prometheus ...just a coincidence OR the company did had already in mind something ? ... btw i want to play a bit Noomi Rapace - Ripley ( but i think she will be infected ... ) Fassbender - Bishop or Ash ? Theron - Burke 2 the revenge Idris Elba - a more dependable PArker Sean Harris - Brett Katie Dickie - Lambertttt Guy PEarce - Dallas PAtrick Wilson - Hicks Logan Marshall Green - Kane Spall - a weaker hudson so we are ready ...
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