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Thanks Ghostface.

Yes, thanks.

I hope not ..Bladerunner is a deeply serious movie with deep thoughts about what we are and if there is life after death ( the only difference between us and the replicants ) .. while Alien was a magnificent horror movie but with no deep thoughts ...mixing the 2 things will be atrocious because connecting the space jockeys to bladerunner will be very silly and tryng to give deep meanings to Alien would ruin the overall atmosphere .Alien was a very basic , ground to earth movie with prima fears and scares and for that it did work .

NEVER! [i]IT WOULD COMPLETELY DESTROY THE ORIGINALITY BUT MUCH KORE IMPORTANTLY THE CREDIBILITY OF BOTH FRANCHISES... IMO[/i] GREAT IDEA THOUGH NOT SWEARING JUST BEING EMPHATIC PLEASE EXCUSE THE CAPS.

I think [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_%28film%29]Scott had anticipated doing a 2-part movie originally[/url]. Don't know what ever came of that.

Wow this is a very itchy topic! the two worlds take place in a dofferent stream of time. Dont know how it could be worked. But then again it could work with the off world stuff abd the androids.

I don;t think that Scott will intertwin this film with Bladerunner

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I've always felt that if the crew had frozen Kane, after returning home, they would have had to explain what had happened. Then there is the issue of quarantine. A lot of questions would be asked and perhaps an investigation which I assume the company would want to avoid. With that said take a look at what Carter Burke said to Ripley about certain authorities stepping in giving no exclusive rights to anyone, etc. For all we know is that a small group of people within the company could have been acting out the whole plot on their own outside the knowledge of the rest of the company. Like Carter Burke did in Aliens.

While I don't believe the mutation theory, I wouldn't say the xenomorphs as weapons are necessarily a bad thing. What if they were more like a curse or a plague specifically for humans than a weapon?

[quote]This is the only version I've been able to find. I assume this is the original cut from the film. Its a beautifully creepy sound; I hope they don't change it. Where can I hear the altered version? (Anywhere on the web?)[/quote] That is the original Audio for the alien transmission which was done by Ben burtt (who worked on star wars) Why this was changed for the directors cut i have no idea. I think the original is better. I'll have to compare both the dvd and blu ray scenes later on as i'm curious to see if they have been changed again. I do know that the directors cut for blu ray has had a few audio changes so it might be possible.

OK i've compared both DVD & Blu ray of the alien transmission scene and they are both the same. Only difference really is that the Blu ray version sounds better.

When you compared the audio from the Blu-ray version did you use the DTS master audio soundtrack or the Dolby Digital one? I am going to check to see if maybe the difference is on the fomat being used.

I just just placed the discs in an jumped to the scene. Didn't really check the blu ray sound track to be honest.

Blu-ray discs have more sound channels. If you have a surround sound system, you should notice a difference in quality between DVD and Blu-Ray audio. Plus, whoever mixed the audio on the DVD may have just put the sound in its own channel.

maybe they said 30 years because with that atmosphere is a sufficient time to make a living creature to look fossilized . Also the eggs was still alive and the trasmitter was working so it CANT BE hundreds of years that the spaceship was on LV426 .

My take: It starts in space; en-route to find the SJ's. We find their crashed ship on LV-426 (or possibly landed ship). We find the green goo/grey matter. One scientist gets a little too excited and purposely infects either him/herself OR a bunch of other crew members. The crew mutate into Xenos. Shit hits the fan; people break out the flamer throwers. The SJ's turn up in the 3rd act of the film; shit gets serious. We end up with some horrible Xeno/SJ hybrid. Everyone dies bar David. BUT then that does leave a lot to explain...The giant head for example? How does that fit in? I'd assume it was a monument to the SJ's human creation?

Can also be that the magellan ( or the prometheus ) are what the Narcissus was for the Nostromo . So they can be both part of the same spacecraft .

Where did you hear about the second ship? That sounds pretty cool.

it was written over one of the vehicles on the set "The prop is marked 'Magellan mess deck', which indicates that there may be more than one human space ship present in Prometheus "

Right, the Magellan could be the smaller ship and the Prometheus the mother ship but perhaps was the first ship sent and it never came back from it's mission. It was lost as the public knew but secretly it sent back a transmission the company kept in the dark and thus, the Prometheus is sent to investigate. The Magellan would have the concordance, a beacon sort of where it disappeared off the map.

if it have a mess deck it cant be that small , like the narcissus

I agree. I am going on the theory that this ship is a sister ship. Going out together or went out prior to the Prometheus.

What if Prometheus was not the name of a ship, but was a character instead?

can be also the name of the mission ...btw there are some fonts that say that could be the name of the ship ..one was ""And the ship, which I am told is the current titles name, Prometheus"" this ...

[url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/articles/4]the ship is named prometheus[/url]

of course there are no proof that start from the "goo" thing from the comic con video , but we are not sure its goo ( on david finger and inside the helmet of a dyng human ). Also there are many shoots on people in cryosleep or being exhaminated ...then this thing of the black eyes from the trailer . But of course can be all fake or wrongly interpretated . also the jars with inside a green or grey goo may lead to dna speculation .

Its merely a theory. If you trawl back through some of the older topics on this site, I think you'll find the ideas inception. Its a cool theory though :)

There was also the one leaked screenshot from the comic con footage (a weird looking thing with long legs) that some have speculated is a transformed, or partially transformed Charlize Theron. I don't really know what it is, it's hard to tell, imho it looks somewhat like the supposedly leaked concept art showing the Jockey under the suit. A tall, bendy-legged, humanoid deer thing... If that's the case it could be Theron transforming into a Jockey, or just a Jockey without a suit. Then a lot of the transformation talk would just be us fans spit-balling. Still, I think the talk about the black eyes is what's getting people thinking about this theory again. Dark eyes=infected sort of thing. And chestbursting is too predictable, Facehuggers aren’t in the movie. Plus we've seen that all before. Even if morphing is included it has to be much more complicated. . It’d work ok the first time when we don't know something's going to happen. Like the chestburster scene in Alien. A couple times within a film maybe, but that’s it. Too many chestbursts/transformations would start to lose effect. And we’d run out of movie time/characters if everyone met their end that way. Also sounding like a number of crew members were seen with black eyes, leading me to believe not all would undergo a transformation process, at least not at the same rate. We'd know beforehand who’s going to change by their eyes, or at least catch on very quickly and it'll be predictable. Something more complicated than carrying the xeno has got to be going on with the black eyes. At least eventually. My gut tells me they're possessed, and possibly under control by the Jockies, but I can't say for sure that it doesn't mean they aren't also "infected" in another way. If Xenos, or a proto-xeno are in this: a slower grotesque transformation might shake things up a little, but it's the same thing ultimately, and there would have to be more to it. Otherwise it’s too much of a retread: crewmember gets infected, and produces alien. Only in a different way. It wouldn’t fly the whole movie imho. There has to be more if something like this happens. I think this film will focus heavily on androids/technology, or “robots” this go around (Lindelof hinted as much). Maybe even some backstory about how the company developed them. Man’s creation. Made in our own image. We are there gods and engineers. We're playing god... It would have been quite an accomplishment when they were made. Sweat like humans, behave mainly like humans. But they're programmable. Able to be modified. Designed to serve us or to have a semblance of life of their own? I would even venture a guess that androids have just been created or are top secret in Prometheus' timeline. And that they still rely on a lot of human bio material to create them, at least one of them. There’s probably multiple reasons there will be more than one synthetic in Prometheus, but we don’t know for sure yet. I predict one will be more like a cyborg, one more like an android. Instead of the obvious one good, one working for the company idea. Think of the cyborg as a proto-android, that may not know they’re part synthetic ( like Blade Runner director’s cut) only this will take a more front and center place in the end of the movie. This leads to questions about gods and playing god, creators and engineers, terra formers and designers. World builders, and spacefarers. Freewill, and questions about life in the case of the “robots”. And particularly, if characters are controlled/possessed by the the telepathic powers of the Jocky.

i can just add 3 things about your interesting thoughts 1) Ridley will do a prequel to Bladerunner too , so i think he will not dig too deeply into replicants questions ... otherwise he will invade bladerunner fields . 2) i cant stand the "possession" things in any kind of sauce ... its something that dont scare me and i hope we will not fail in the psychological/entity triller , i want deep pure horror 3) if we go too much in the creation phisolopy , in the replicants humanity , in the scientific geez department i FEAR that the movie will become a script exercise without any kind of soul ..a bit like Inception and Gattaca ( 2 movie with good reviews but that i hate )

The Alien in the first movie does have human form so it can be thought that the Alien came from something, a a cross mix of something..which made it a pretty hostile organism , one that can not be controlled mentally or through physical taming.

I know which pictures you're talking about. This one (just one): [img]http://www.xenotron.com/prom-1.jpg[/img] There's no mutation going on in that picture. It's a half-naked girl falling forward. That's it. Her knees are in front of her feet and her arms are getting ready to break her fall. Whoever it is, is probably this person: [img]http://www.xenotron.com/prom-2.jpg[/img] Which looks to be Noomi Rapace (I recognize those breasts). The description of black eyes from Chris didn't mention anyone with black eyes, just black eyes in general. That does not mean anyone mutates. Even if a human has black eyes, that could imply other things, like mind-control. So, I beg the question again, why do we assume that someone mutates? I propose that no one mutates in the movie and that's not what the film is about. The only time I read about mutation is on this board. I think people are going with rumors after one person's erroneous interpretation of a picture rather than facts. Let's let go of the hype and hysteria and take a step back at what we know for certain without running with hair-brained, unsupported ideas.

Hey its to get fun ...everyone get fun tryng to immagine whay will happen ... otherwise we wait 6 months playng cards ... we have no facts !! and everything can be erroneous ! i never endorsed the mutation thing but if the people see it what is wrong ?? we are not talking of science ..is a movie .

All we know that is fact so far is [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/articles/4]This[/url] The pics from comic con The current Synopsis and the recently deleted trailer comments from Chris. everything else is speculation and/or theory.

Exactly, which is why I'm trying to get the whole mutation theory out of everyone's heads by exposing it for what it is: just a dumb theory with no evidence backing it up. I want us to move on from it so we can clear our minds for a more probable plot to the story.

All I know and All I only really wanted to know till I see the film, is that one.... THERE ARE XENOS, and two Space Jockeys

then xenotron do your plot and we will see who goes more close to the truth :) im curious to read yours :) predalien ..why 2 space jockeys :D and not 3 ?? :D

What if they, the humans are tricked into going there by the Jockey's? A signal is sent or something is left there to be found for the humans?

Hey XT, My reasoning for the transformation is the remarkable semblances humans and the Xenos have. Giger incorporated the upper front portion of a human skull into the original alien skull. You can see the eye sockets thru the translucent skin. Also the Alien should be just as much alien to us as we are to it. If the alien evolved in such a harsh environment as Ash said in the movie it would look nothing like us. The odds of it being exactly proportional to us (minus skulls size, and tail) is staggeringly impossible. Humans are remarkably fragile creatures its our ability to individually learn and manipulate our surroundings that makes us so deadly. Aliens on the other hand aren't fragile, they don't individually manipulate their environment and the learning, I believe would be genetic based over generations, but there are still to many semblances . Maybe opposite sides of the same coin? Just my opinion though. Regards, Rick