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Shaka, When the walls fellPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
Alien 3 is as good as the first 2 films if one can look at the film seperately from the the other 2. the the drop off from the alien 4 and the avp series is signifigant. i think that the first 3 films form the basis from which the fan following of the film originates. i agree that the extended version of the film is a must to fully appreciate what is being said in the film, golic's obsession of the alien and his need to confront it resonate with the hardcore fan in a way that alien and aliens do not. in the first 2 films the future is depicted as dark, cold, and dreary, where circumstances are dictated by a manevolant group which is working for the good of a company and not mankind. this theme of course is present in all the alien films as well as avp, but i think where alien 3 stands alone is that the alien itself, more so than any other film, becomes the personification (so to speak) of everything that is evil and wrong in the universe. the darkness of the films is what draws me and i believe fans across the board to these film. but i also think the darkness of the films and dim picture of the future steers mainstreamers away. my wife and son clear out of the room everytime one of the movies is on, why is that? because the darkness and dread of the movies frightens them more than anything, which is personified by the alien, which is done masterfully in alien 3
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FrantzPrometheus ForumPatrick Wilson talks Prometheus
Very nice and promising words from Wilson ... he could have said " was great to work with Ridley scott ..etc etc " and instead he said 4-5 times that the script is great ...that is very interesting .
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Ghost SolitarePrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Thoughts....two ways to think about this. If the signal was heretofore masked by local interferance due to it's limited range the Nostromo might have been the first vessel to detect it. The ship itself was probably programmed to notify the Company in the event of just such an occurance. The company potentially had time to begin deciphering the message before relaying orders back to Nostromo. This packet may have also contained EMERGENCY COMMAND OVERRIDE 100375 NOSTROMO REROUTED TO NEW CO-ORDINATES. INVESTIGATE LIFE-FORM. GATHER SPECIMEN. PRIORITY ONE INSURE RETURN OF ORGANISM FOR ANALYSIS. ALL OTHER PRIORITIES RESCINDED CREW EXPENDABLE. Scenario 2 If the signal were detected by a orbiting radio array, or a ground based installation some time prior to the ill fated last leg of the Nostromo. The nature of the transmission would definitely have been decoded. Though this is less likely as anyone with the proper listening equipment would have been able to detect the transmission, it would have been a race to get there first. That's just my take on things. Ghost Solitare
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FrantzPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
The big problem i see is that 1) if someone of the crew survive THEN WeYu should know everything about the alien races and THEN the Nostromo mission was already planned but since everything look fossilized we have to assume that 2) all the crew die ... however a movie with a bad ending always flop ( there must be always a sort of compensation and sacrifice for a just cause is not often enough ) 3) the android survive and decide to keep it for himself ( a bit kiddish imo )
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tarPrometheus ForumAlternative Stories around Aliens and Space Jokeys
Umm, well, it's different! At least your idea is original and thats a hell of a lot more than the recent Alien films. Unfortunately I think your idea never really explains what this "ball" actually is, or why Ripley ends up there. Also, beyond the premise, it does'nt sound like you have enough in it to keep an audience interested in such an extreme idea. Sorry.
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Ghost SolitarePrometheus ForumAlternative Stories around Aliens and Space Jokeys
Just as a side note, if you are curious about the settled systems and politics of the Alien universe. You can check out this site. It has many interesting factoids, and touches upon things mentioned in both Alien and Aliens. As far as fiction is concerned it helps give a map of the territory covered in the films. http://zenade.angelfire.com/AVP/colonies.html 13 Jul 2069 – SE Brett born in Houston, Texas. 27 Feb 2076 – AJ Dallas born in Wolf Point, Montana. 04 Feb 2080 - JT Parker born in San Diego, California. 20 Apr 2083 – GW Kane born in Borehamwood, Hertfordshire, United Kingdom/EU (Dual nationality) 04 Jul 2076 - United States has Tricentennial Celebration and issues special patch to all active members of the US Space Fleet, both military and commercial. 2088: The United Kingdom forms the Seventh Union, joining forces with Japan and a number of developing countries to form the Third World Empire, which forms its own military and commercial space fleets. Interplanetary commerce and mining flourishes in deep space, with transnational corporations such as Weyland-Yutani. 07 Jan 2092 – EL Ripley is born in Olympia, Luna. 07 Jan 2092-18 Apr 2110 - Ripley spends childhood in lunar quarantine facility during outbreak of XMB virus on Luna. Tests negative for XMB. 07 Nov 2093 – JM Lambert born in Ontario, Canada. 15 May 2094-21 Dec 2095 - Brett works as hardware specialist for Solari Energy Corp at Osaka solar energy plant. Employment terminated. 01 Feb 2096-16 Jul 2096 - Brett pilots high-speed cargo vehicles for Ridton Corp through Iranistan war zone. Employment suspended. 18 Jul 2096-04 Dec 2096 – Brett receives treatment for alcoholism at Ridton Medical Facility (London) Treatment successful. 11 Sep 2096-23 May 2100 - Kane attends Weatherly Private School. Graduates with honors. 15 Sep 2097-21 Oct 2101 – Brett serves as Assistant Engineer on Ridton Corp deep-sea vessel Ozymandias, under Captain Ivey. 15 May 2099 - Dallas graduates Mercerton Flight Academy. (Flight Status C) 19 Sep 2100-30 May 2104 - Kane attends Gunning Foss Military School. Graduates at top of his class. 18 Jan 2102-21 May 2108 – Brett attends Houston School of Astrophysics and Interstellar Engineering. Graduates. 23 Jan 2103-04 Dec 2105 - Dallas serves as Pilot on UTX Ganymede military cargo vessel, under Captain Britten. 2104 - Third World Empire forces North and South America to consolidate their own economic and military might to form the United Americas. United Kingdom becomes part of UA soon after. Earth becomes the ‘inner city’ of the solar system, with upper and middle classes moving off-world. Expansion reaches far beyond the solar system. 06 Sep 2104-13 Feb 2108 - Attends Bryce-Watkins Medical University. Expelled for substance abuse. Treated for drug-inflicted embolism and stress. Treatment successful. 09 Jan 2105-14 Jun 2107 – Parker recruited into United Americas Outer Rim Defense Fleet, stationed at Skyfire Down. (Rank: Private.) Serves as mechanic of heavy land transport vehicles and officer shuttles. 01 Jun 2106 - Dallas commissioned into United Americas Outer Rim Defense Fleet. Stationed at Liberty Echo. (Rank: Lieutenant) 14 Jun 2106-17 Feb 2108 - Dallas serves as Pilot on UAS Leviathan fast attack vessel, under Major Baines during Torin Prime Civil War. (Flight Status A) 14 Jun 2107-01 Aug 2107 – Parker promoted to Corporal. Serves as chief mechanic at Skyfire Down UAORD base. 01 Aug 2107-21 Feb 2108 – Parker is captured by J'har Rebels during Torin Prime Civil War. Imprisoned at Concentration Camp GR-161. Establishes undergound black market for POWs. 21 Feb 2108 – Parker escapes from Concentration Camp GR-161 during the Liberation of Torin Prime. Constructs emergency escape vehicle (EEV) from scrap. 23 Feb 2108 - Dallas promoted to Captain following Liberation of Torin Prime. Receives the Sunburst Medal of Honor for meritorious service. 01 Mar 2108 - Dallas given command of UAS Archangel troop carrier. (Flight Status AA) 14 Jul 2108-09 Nov 2111 – Brett serves as Assistant Engineer on Weyland-Yutani waste disposal vessel USCSS Corazon Oscuro, under Captain Speight. (Flight Status C) 16 Sep 2108-18 May 2112 - Kane attends Wellington Academy (Suffolk.) Graduates with Masters of Engineering. (Flight Status C) 30 Oct 2108 - Parker receives Honorable Discharge from UAORD. 19 Dec 2108 - Parker returns to Earth. 05 Sep 2109-29 Mar 2113 - Parker attends San Diego School of Astro-Engineering. Studies incomplete. No degree awarded. 25 Dec 2109 - UAS Archangel destroyed in enemy attack during peace-keeping operation on Thedus. 15,293 lives lost. Ship unsalvageable. Dallas’ flight status suspended. 03 Jan 2110 - Dallas receives Dishonorable Discharge from UAORD. (Flight Status Revoked) 04 Jan 2110-28 Apr 2113 - Dallas’ whereabouts unknown.. 24 June 2111 - Ellen Ripley gives birth to a daughter, Amanda. 15 Sep 2111-25 May 2115 - Ripley attends Evansbrook Academy. Shows aptitude for ethics, law and corporate affairs. Graduates at top of her class. 10 Nov 2111 – Brett fails blood alcohol test. Flight Status suspended. 09 Jan 2112 - Brett undergoes cerebral detox procedure at Weyland-Yutani Medical Facility, Titan. Minor complications arise: some neurological damage evident. 09 Jan 2112-31 Mar 2113 – Brett undergoes therapeutic recuperation at Weyland-Yutani Medical Facility, Titan. 12 May 2112 - Lambert graduates at New Ontario University with Masters of Astro-Cartography. 01 Jun 2112-18 Sep 2112 - Lambert interns in Astro-Cartography Dept. at Ridton Corp, London/UK-EU. 07 Oct 2112 - Lambert marries Xander Chapman, Director of Astro-Cartography, Ridton Corp. 28 Oct 2112-05 Feb 2114 - Lambert serves as Shipping Lane Trafficator for Farside Lunar Mining (Plymouth/Luna-UA.) 28 Oct 2112-02 Nov 2113 - Kane participates in UK/EU archeological dig on Konor Minor. Co-supervises Eldorado Exploring Expedition with Dr. Elisabeth Monygham. 03 Apr 2113 - Brett passes Weyland-Yutani Ment/Psych/Cog-5 exam. Flight Status restored. Cleared for assignment. 19 Apr 2113-28 Oct 2117 – Brett serves as Assistant Engineering Tech at Weyland-Yutani Fusion Reactor Facility on Titan. 28 Apr 2113-09 Sep 2113 - Dallas smuggles weapons and medical supplies into the Solomons on civilian cargo vessel The Vidar, under Captain Joshua. 02 Oct 2113-13 Dec 2113 - Parker freelances as mechanic/engineer for Mexcorp, serving on various unauthorized medicinal cargo ops. 14 Dec 2113-04 May 2114 - Dallas freelances special transport ops of hazardous materials for Weyland-Yutani in the Solomons. (Probationary Flight Status D) 07 Jan 2114-29 Apr 2115 – Parker serves as Assistant Engineer at United Americas Lightspeed Accelerator Threshold, Neptune. 10 Feb 2114 - Lambert divorces Xander Chapman, former Director of Astro Cartography Ridton Corp. 17 Feb 2114-06 Dec 2114 - Lambert serves as Assistant Navigator on Red Star Lines pleasure cruiser Infinity (Mars-Orion route.) (Flight Status C) 21 Jul 2114-03 Dec 2118 - Dallas purchases civilian cargo vessel Tremolino. Freelances cargo and transport ops for Weyland-Yutani throughout the Outer Rim Territories. (Flight Status C) 2115 - White Dwarf Complex purchases Red Star Line and uses it to transport and rotate crews for the corporations. Farside Lunar Mining & Lifting establishes total economic and political control over lunar settlements of Kulik I, Mach, Leibnitz and Icarus. 29 Jan 2115-01 Aug 2118 - Lambert serves as Navigator/Comm Officer on Ridton Corp salvage vessel Leggatt, under Captain Leigh. 05 May 2115-19 Oct 2117 – Parker serves as Assistant Engineer on Weyland-Yutani commercial cargo vehicle USCSS Otago, under Captain Mortenson. 01 Jun 2115 - Ripley is recruited into Weyland-Yutani's Horizons Beyond officer training program. (Trainee Flight Status CC) 09 Jun 2115 - Dr. Elisabeth Monygham killed in decompression accident on Kellerat (LB-329). 16 Oct 2115 - Ripley successfully negotiates end to hostage crisis on Weyland-Yutani shuttle craft Erebus. 49 lives saved. 8 terrorists convicted. 14 Dec 2115-29 Oct 2117 - Kane serves as Mission Analyst on UK/EU colonial expedition in the Outer Rim Territories. (Flight Status B) 21 Dec 2116 - Ripley completes Horizons Beyond officer training program, with honors. 02 Jan 2117-19 Nov 2117 - Ripley serves as Junior Warrant Officer on commercial cargo vessel USCSS Kurtz, under Captain Archbold. (Flight Status BC) 27 Oct 2117-01 Sep 2120 – Parker serves as Engineer on Weyland-Yutani commercial cargo vehicle USCSS Nonnabo, under Captain Keeney. (Flight Status C) 01 Nov 2117-13 Jul 2118 - Kane serves as First Officer on UK/EU colonial transport vessel HMS Sabretooth, under Captain Redd. (Flight Status BA) 03 Nov 2117-01 Sep 2120 – Brett serves as Engineering Tech on Weyland-Yutani commercial cargo vehicle USCSS Nonnabo, under Captain Keeney. 01 Dec 2117-08 Mar 2118 - Ripley serves as Warrant Officer on Weyland-Yutani cargo vessel USCSS Sephoria, under Captain Eliot. 10 Mar 2118 - Ripley’s request for maternity leave denied by Weyland-Yutani Corporation. 17 Mar 2118 - Ripley files civil lawsuit against Weyland-Yutani. 18 Mar 2118 - Ripley’s flight status suspended. Salary suspended. 04 Apr 2118-19 Aug 2118 - Ripley file sealed under court order. 19 Aug 2118 - Ripley’s request for maternity leave approved. Request for reinstatement of flight status approved. Request for salary increase approved. 13 Sep 2118 - Lambert marries Lordan Hessutt, Executive Officer on Ridton Corp salvage vessel Leggatt. 21 Sep 2118-19 Dec 2119 - Kane serves as Executive Officer on Weyland-Yutani salvage vessel USCSS Kenamor, under Captain Kahn. (Flight Status AB) 11 Oct 2118-19 Dec 2119 - Lambert serves as Navigator on Weyland-Yutani scout ship Adowa, under Captain Payne. (Flight Status BC) 19 Sep 2119-27 Oct 2119 - Ripley goes on maternity leave. 16 Nov 2119-12 Jul 2120 - Ripley serves as Warrant Officer on Weyland-Yutani cargo vehicle USCSS Sotillo, under Captain Rosendo. 07 Dec 2119 - Tremolino decommissioned. Crew disbanded. 2120 - With interstellar travel commonplace, mining colonies are established as far as the Solomons on the galactic rim. The transnational corporations hold immense power in the colonies. 03 Jan 2120 - Lambert divorces Lordan Hessutt, Executive Officer on Ridton Corp salvage vessel Leggatt. 04 Jan 2120 - Dallas given command of Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo. (Flight Status B) 05 Jan 2120 - Lambert serves as Navigator on Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas. (Flight Status B) Kane serves as Executive Officer on Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas. (Flight Status A) 10 Aug 2120 - Ripley serves as Warrant Officer on Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas. (Flight Status B) 10 Sep 2120 – Parker serves as Engineer on Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas. (Flight Status BC) Brett serves as Engineering Tech on Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas. 10 Jun 2121 – Ash is assigned as Science Officer on Weyland-Yutani commercial towing vehicle USCSS Nostromo, under Captain Dallas. (Flight Status A) 12 Jun 2121: Commercial towing vehicle Nostromo leaves Thedus in the Solomons for Earth. 2122: 3 June (Flight Time - 5 November) - Nostromo is diverted to planetoid LV-426 in Zeta-Two Reticuli system. 2122: 4 June (Flight Time - 6 November) - In deep space, the crew of the commercial starship Nostromo is awakened from their cryo-sleep capsules halfway through their journey back home to earth and rerouted to investigate a distress call from an alien vessel on the planet LV-426.
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
Yeah Mentos I sort of think you have hit the nail on the head. The "goo" in the urns is definitely integral to the plot and I think you may be right about the metamorphosis of some of the crew into creatures. This picture could be one of the crew undergoing a horrible change, well that's how it looks to me. [IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/Evilqtl_2007/Misc/xlarge_scream.jpg[/IMG] And this Comic-Con footage was said to be very relevant to the plot. [b]He has some of the "goo" on his finger[/b] [IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/Evilqtl_2007/Misc/images.jpg[/IMG]
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FrantzPrometheus ForumDisappointment?
i do not agree ... genetic hybrids were already in Alien 4 , plus there are other hybrids in Alien Vs Predator ...so is already an used thing and not as "scaring" as the facehuggers thing ...also a big success like District 9 widely used the genetic contamination thing . The liquid you see on the finger is the white blood that androids have ( as reporters said ) ALSO in some frames of the video we see an ABDOMEN checkup ... i dont think is a coincidence
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NeurionPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
WOW! There’s certainly a lot atheistic propaganda being spewed across the PROMETHEUS forum today. You know, I had an existential conversation with a friend one day. During the conversation my friend said, “You know what? I think that if even if God did NOT exist, people would invent one…and so they have. In response I said, “Well that’s interesting, I think that even if God DOES exist, people will try to find a way to un-invent or deny this God…and so they do. I find it interesting that folks like “spacey freak” are willing, and are so readily eager to embrace the concept of a “merely” extra-terrestrial (non-divine) god or creator, while simultaneously ridiculing theological theories that have been held by scholars, philosophers, and men of science…with “superior spelling skills”… for MILLENNIA! I don’t mean to come across as didactic. It’s just that “spacey freak’s” statements reminded so much, of the afore mentioned conversation, that I felt compelled to post it. Moreover, it’s amusing…and at the same time, SAD to me, that the member wrote that there is no TRUTH. In actuality, all of nature is truth. Trouble only comes in to “paradise” when the TRUTH is either misunderstood or intentionally denied or attacked. The fact is that approximately 97.5% of the (non ant) human population believes in some form of a supernatural God(s)…not including potentially powerful extra-terrestrial lifeforms i.e. Space Jockeys. I sure hope the PROMETHEUS film does not go in this presumptuous and theologically and scientifically dismissive direction. Remember folks, good science does not rule out possibilities without proof. To rule out the possibility of God(s) seems very Unscientific…at least to me. God Bless…if there is one, ~Neurion
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Well it's all in the title Neurion.Stealing fire from the gods and all that.I don't think they called it Prometheus out of invention.I think creation (creatures and planets) will play a big part in the movie. About your discussion with your friend -People will always need to something to believe in.Always have and always will. Quote - "The (space) journey, metaphorically, is about a challenge to the gods," Scott said. But Scott's ambitions with Prometheus go far beyond simply restarting a hit franchise. The British director said the film's storyline, and script by David Lindelof, was partially inspired by the writings of legendary Swiss sci-fi writer Eric van Daniken. Van Daniken, author of 1968 bestseller Chariot of the Gods, is best known as the first proponent of the so-called ancient astronaut theory, which holds that aliens kick-started civilization on earth. "NASA and the Vatican agree that is almost mathematically impossible that we can be where we are today without there being a little help along the way," Scott said. "That's what we're looking at (in the film), at some of Eric van Daniken's ideas of how did we humans come about." - Quote
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NeurionPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Hey Theusprom, I really don’t have a problem with the filmmakers grafting van Daniken’s hypotheses/theories into the PROMETHEUS film. Van Daniken’s concepts do not necessarily preclude the possibility of the existence of a God(s). They simply hold that extra-terrestrials might have visited, assisted in, or “kick-started CIVILIZATION on earth…not CREATED human life on earth. On van Daniken: Several scientists, such as Carl Sagan and I. S. Shklovskii, have written about Däniken's paleocontact and extraterrestrial visitation claims. Although Sagan did not rule out the possibility of visitation, he insisted that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", which Däniken fails to provide. Däniken claimed that a non-rusting iron pillar in India was evidence of extraterrestrial influence. Later, Däniken admitted in a Playboy interview that the pillar was rusty and man-made, and that as far as supporting his hypotheses goes "we can forget about this iron thing." Some also question von Däniken's credibility, as he has also knowingly put forward fraudulent evidence to advance his hypotheses, such as photographs of pottery "depicting UFOs", supposedly from an archaeological dig dating back to the biblical era. The PBS television series Nova determined that this was a fraud, and even located the potter who made them. When confronted with this evidence, von Däniken argued that the deception was justified because some people would only believe his ideas if they saw actual proof. As far as your statement: “People will always need to something to believe in. Always have and always will.” This need to believe in something…where do you suppose it comes from? Was is it born spontaneously, out of the randomness of evolution or natural selection…or was it implanted or inherited by a sentient higher power? ~Neurion
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Neurion, That is a brilliant question and I am not sure I can give you an answer. I think it was part of the evolutionary step to begin with, things we couldn't explain - like the Sun and Moon and stars.Praying for crops and a good hunt, that sort of thing.In modern times I think it might be something as not wanting the physical existence to be the end of everything.Perhaps people need to believe there is something after we die, after all it is depressing to think once we peg it that's it. Yeah and I agree with the comments about Däniken's credibility, he can sound like a loon when he wants to, but I do think they are going to try and weave this sort of plot element into Prometheus.
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
I agree with you that it is the name of the ship, I just didn't go as far as to connect THAT with what the actual meaning or it's representation in Greek mythology. So, they got these Atmospheric Compressors that make the air breathable, we see them via Bishop in ALIENS... & It would seem that this art of "TERRA-FORMING" is KEY to the entire plot. Great stuff, and each day that goes by I get more and more excited to see what is sure to be the MASTERPIECE of our times as far as Science Fiction Film goes.
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FrantzPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
is the WY that give the ship the name of Prometheus ...just a coincidence OR the company did had already in mind something ? ... btw i want to play a bit Noomi Rapace - Ripley ( but i think she will be infected ... ) Fassbender - Bishop or Ash ? Theron - Burke 2 the revenge Idris Elba - a more dependable PArker Sean Harris - Brett Katie Dickie - Lambertttt Guy PEarce - Dallas PAtrick Wilson - Hicks Logan Marshall Green - Kane Spall - a weaker hudson so we are ready ...
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IGIGOUPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Thanks (Frantz) for reading my synopsis of the plot. You know Id love to see at as a big surprise but if your curious going to see leaks , read discussions pretty much by next year you know everything about the movie, Ps Where you writing from? IGIGOU.
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FrantzPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
eheh im italian , ive watched alien no less than 100 times and for me is the "perfect" movie . YEs i agree ...we will ruin our surprise ...but we cant do nothing else ... What i fear is the "good" movie ... i fear that everything compared to alien will look pale ... it cant be a good movie , it must be an excellent one ... Is Ridley capable to build another classic ?...i fear not but what we have saw until today is good . Ridley will do a great directing ( even flops like 1492 and The Crusades have great cinematography ...and to be honest i like both ) and the cast is AWESOME ( add Sam Rockwell and we have the best cast possible ) , what i fear is the script . I fear it alot . Also i think we have received alot of smoke in the eyes ... --Theron and her naked push ups ...smoke ..she will have a minor role ( i hope ) --i think noomi rapace will not be the new ripley .... i think the movie will be on the shoulders of Guy Pearce , Idris Elba and Ben Foster ( i hope so ) and finally ....i cant wait 6 months ...
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IGIGOUPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Hey (Frantz) I Agree, I waited for Alien 3, forever and when I saw it I was bored/disapointed as hell. I saw Alien1 when I was a kid, first opening! I forced my dad to bring me. it was rated R! I was 8 years old.. It was me my sister and my dad. My sister was sick and just a baby,she had the flu they left early and left me because I insisted! and I was Alone. "Now you know My age! ha! ha! .,Anyway I watched 2 hours of that movie by myself... that movie scared the shit !out of me forever! I went home and vomited when I saw the chest burster! (merda, per sempre sfregiata,ma buona esperienza haha! curare amigo!.
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RuhaniyaPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
"ya- rrright!?" [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4pxYj3kb0Kw/S6N65jb8k7I/AAAAAAAAGNo/cDO73GDQgZc/s400/lego-alien-chest-burster.jpg[/img]
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ChrisPrometheus ForumPost Your Prometheus Artwork!
Submissions will be closed on October 10th, 2011 at 2:30 pm EST. Get your artwork posted before then for a chance to win!
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jonesy2012Prometheus ForumYour thoughts on Prometheus
hey new to the forum so...HI! just joined to keep up to date with all the new on the film as I am a huge Alien geek. My hopes for the film I guess are all in the atmosphere and look of the movie. I don't want it to look too polished or new does that make sense? I heard a rumour Fassbender was playing an android has that been touched on? Interested in what angle they are coming from with this movie if we have earth-humans and androids but its not a direct prequel...over all very excited !!
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Here's a synopsis that was "leaked" that I like. BTW, the company don't know of the capabilities of the Alien as a Bio weapon in this movie.It is a prequel and it will be 30 years before the events of Alien.I believe a big chunk of the story will be how the company find out about the Xeno. [size=200]Earth. Year 2058. Archaeological digs in Africa reveals alien artifacts that proves humans were genetically engineered by a advanced alien race (space jockeys). These "Alien Gods" also terraformed Earth in order to make it habitable for their human creations. Amongst the finds are coordinates to the Alien Gods' home-world. To Paradise. Months later the Weyland Corp launch the spaceship PROMETHEUS and his crew, into deep space to make first contact. Thanks to faster than light travel a few years later the PROMETHEUS enters the Zeta Riticuli star system. Humans are greeted by their makers, then transported further into space to a scary yet fascinating world. The Alien Gods are proud of their "children", their first creation to reach such levels of intelligence. As a reward they share bits of their astonishing bio-based technologies with the humans. But for one member of the Prometheus' crew it's not enough. In a treacherous act he steals the "bio-source code" to Terraforming, A technology at the origin of all Gods' powers, that could make humans equal to their creators. The Alien Gods may be scientists but are also ruthless conquerors, destroyers of worlds who will not accept humans as equals. They unleash on the escaping human crew their favorite bio-weapon, a creature used to "clean up" worlds before colonization. But something goes wrong in the process and humans manage to turn the bio-weapon against their makers. Giving birth to a smarter, nastier, bigger breed of gut eating creatures. Creatures that will be the demise of Paradise. What's left of the Prometheus crew manages to escape the doomed alien planet. On their trail a survivor Alien God on a familiar ship with an ultimate mission. Bring the wrath of the Gods to Earth. [/size] The Facebook page has an updated synopsis too: Release Date June 8, 2012 Genre Action, Drama, Horror, Sci-Fi Studio 20th Century Fox Description [size=200]Ridley Scott, director of “Alien” and “Blade Runner,” returns to the genre he helped define. With PROMETHEUS, he creates a groundbreaking mythology, in which a team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a thrilling journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race.[/size] Starring Michael Fassbender; Noomi Rapace; Charlize Theron; Idris Elba; Guy Pearce; Ben Foster; and Logan Marshall-Green Directed By Ridley Scott Screenplay By Damon Lindelof, Jon Spaihts Notice the part about saving the human race!Never been said up until now.
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FrantzPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
I tend to agree with IGIGOU ...i think hes not far from what we will see ( maybe of course !! ) watching the leaked comicon photos i think that : 1) Prometheus movie it totally linked with Alien movie , i dont care of what the production says . 2) Fassbender looks like hes playng a big role ( maybe are just random sequences of the shooting they have filmed so far but i dont think so ) 3) Noomi Rapace looks she is in charge of the main role , she looks really Ripleyish BUT BUT there is that strange image of that hand on her ( she looks like noomi) cryochamber ..they are observing her cos she is infected ? or is just someone caring her ? hummm 4) the alien platform looks like the one from the first movie ..it just miss the space jockey with the trasmitter in the middle . 5) there are alot of images of that eggs and nothing about an "active" civilization ..maybe its to avoid spoiling but we can say that the "eggs" thing was something already well developed 6) looks like someone is infected ( the abdominal screening ) and is a woman maybe . If is the woman in the chamber before she looks like nooma rapace . And to be honest the subsequent photo , the woman that is falling down sick , looks again like Rapace . 7) we dont see neither Foster neither Guy Pearce ..both can play the good or the evil , i think that the many photos of theron are a bait ( she can be important for the plot but i dont think her role changed so much to become a main character ) 8) the images we have are really dark ..surely its to avoid to spoil much but again i dont see traces of an active civilization ..everything looks like the lv426
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spacekid890Prometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
I had a idea that the andriods on this mission would turn in to the xenomorphes, In the original alien film the ailen was biomechanical and the androids in the aliens universe seemed like they where grown instead of built. It could be that the spacejockys created humans and then humans create andriods witch pissess of the jockeys in some way so they turn the humans creation agienst them witch kind of ties in with the prometheus myth.
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spacyfreakPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
well - noadays, the "old" ideas of god and creatism are "oldfashioned". these thoughts are simply unbelieveable, and less and less people want to believe. So the storyline of "living" creators, this "space jokey culture" is amazing, as it simply says - "...ok, this is a science fiction movie, a story straight out of the phantasy of the writers - but hey, its not LESS believeable then the stories about god, creatism and jesus!" And yes - thats TRUE! With some fantasy, you can create ANY explanation, HOW we came to LIVE and why we are here. There is no TRUTH, its just THOUGHTS how it COULD have happened, thousand and thousands years ago, that we came to life. NOone knows the complete true story where it all came from, and i think mankind will NEVER know it all, no matter how long they search. An ANT can never understand how a computer works - or even WHATS THE SENSE OF A COMPUTER. Simply - because its an ANT.....
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FrantzPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Well no one will never be able to explain how ..from nothing ...the reality exist , a universe exist .. every scientific theory start from something at athe beginning ..but how that something arrived ( even just empty space , dimensions and time) no science will be never able to explain SO the creation theory will always live long life since will be never exist another plausible theory ...we will know the truth just dyng , in a way or another . Returning to talk about Prometheus i fear a bit the presence of androids cos are already a bit an abused theme ... and everyone want just to see if he/it is good or evil ... they will be bad as ash ? or good as the robot in Moon ? i hope the movie will not focus on that too much cos are human relactionships and emotions that make good movies ( moon ,sunshine are a good examples )
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumPrometheus Ending
Yeah but the Derelict on LV-426 has been there for millions of years (Dallas states it is fossilised) in Alien, and Prometheus is set 30 years before Alien so the end of Prometheus cannot be the Derelict crashing on LV-426. Also, LV-426 does exist in this movie, it won't be blown up for another 80 years or so in Aliens. The movie must be centred around another "Jockey" or planet.Scott has stated they find a civilization, but very uncivilized behaviour.
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GuestPrometheus ForumPrometheus Ending
You need to watch the movie again. LV-426 was not nuked from orbit. The terraforming operation's atmospheric processing station at Hadley's Hope was damaged by the gunfire from the marines pulse rifles. The fusion reactors went critical and blew up. Bishop barely managed to evacuate Hicks, Ripley, and Newt before the station went critical.
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oddmanoutPrometheus ForumPrometheus Ending
maybe David will be only one survivor and at the end of Prometheus Company will transform him to Ash.
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FrantzPrometheus ForumPrometheus Ending
i think the process of fossilization depend very much by the atmosphere of a planet ...btw i dont think they will link the ending of prometheus with Alien too much ..you cant link with movie made 20 years ago since you cant assume that everyone is fond with the first alien , is not money wise . So i think there will be ALOT of references and explainations but the plot is a stand alone thing . also i think there is too much talking about nudity and sexual things ...we are talking of ridley scott , come on .
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TheuspromPrometheus ForumPrometheus Ending
The term 'fossilisation' refers to a variety of often complex processes that enable the preservation of organic remains within the geological record. It frequently includes the following conditions: rapid and permanent burial/entombment - protecting the specimen from environmental or biological disturbance; oxygen deprivation - limiting the extent of decay and also biological activity/scavenging; continued sediment accumulation as opposed to an eroding surface - ensuring the organism remains buried in the long-term; and the absence of excessive heating or compression which might otherwise destroy it. Fossilisation can also occur on land, albeit to a far lesser extent, and includes (for example) [size=200]specimens that have undergone mummification[/size] in the sterile atmosphere of a cave or desert. However in reality these examples are only a delay to decomposition rather than a lasting mode of fossilisation and specimens require permanent storage in a climate controlled environment in order to limit its affects. Maybe I should of said mummified and not fossilized, either way it's meant to of been there for a very long time. Not sure if atmosphere has anything to do with it as the eggs aren't fossilized.In the original script for Alien, there was meant to be a shot of a fossilized body of a Xeno on the Derelict too.(which the crew don't find btw)
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TitanPrometheus ForumPrometheus Ending
in one of ridleys interviews, he clearly states that there will be no link to this movie and the first alien, but he also hinted that the space jokey in alien was fossilised, but that fossilisation occured slower as the planet had not been teraformed as yet. in saying that im more excited about seeing chalize theron do push ups naked to be honest.
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AlienPrometheus ForumOrigins
Film Trivia Prometheus Movie Information and Articles - Film Trivia | Prometheus-Movie.com - H.R Giger is said to be working on Prometheus to redeign the Alien - Prometheus's title is the name of the space vessel used by the crew in the film - Prometheus is set in space for the majority of the film - Alien DNA is present and will be the main focus of the film's storyline - (Spoiler) The end of the film is expected to lead into the first Alien film - [u]Prometheus will have Aliens - New, redesigned, larger xenomorphs[/u] - Prometheus will contain the mysterious "Space Jockey I think that answers the Big Aliens... Anyway I like Mentos's idea about the crew becoming Xenos. :D Sounds really original.
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IGIGOUPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
My Educated guess, (Or My Psych analysis on Scotts Plotline Which includes all his other movies and his style of story telling) for “Prometheus” after observing the leaks, discussions and photos. (Enjoy!) 1) Humans discover a temple on earth that marks the pre-existence of the “Mala’Kaks Space jockeys (aliens.wikia.com), on earth and their home world address. They decipher the hieroglyphs and human technology is advanced quickly from agriculture to energy. 2) Years later a super conglomerate (Weyland / Yutani)…” emblem is seen on the vehicle pics”. Creates 2 Interstellar ships , The Magellan and the Prometheus to investigate 3) Each ship is run by 1 android 4) They arrive on the star system and land on the planet. They find an identical temple as on earth which leads them into the inner depths of the planet. 5) There they discover a society of aliens similar to the Mala’Kakas but different. The human crew is there just for observance and make no contact. They observe animalistic anarchy and a malevolent society based on eroticism and mutilation based on images of Gigers “Hypersexuality.” 6) They discover the inner sanctum of the high priest of the “Space Jockey” realm ,and steal samples, including the “bio slime and other artifacts. 7) A crew member is infected “ raped” to hell by these sex aliens, during the process of stealing. 8) After returning to the Magellan, they study the samples, the crew of the Prometheus stay on the planet for observance. There the first appearance of the” space jockey” is revealed to the audience. 9) Meanwhile the crew on the Magellan discovers the secrets of the “bio slime”.The injured crew member gets sick and starts a metamorphosis or is infected. This is the first generation human/alien hybrid is created. The crew controls its growth and isolates it. 10) Back on the planet the space jockey goes “ape shit” on these humans, and what they have done. Of course the crew fights back. This is a Military and exploratory mission. There loaded! (This is the action part of the movie!) 11) The Magellan is now contaminated. Head operations officer, (Charlice Theron) transfers all data from the ill fated Magellan to the Prometheus. She returns with the surviving crew and launches a Bio war of these first generation alien/hybrids man has now created “ accidently” against the Mala’Kaks. 12) We find out later she knows more secrets of the MalaKaks technology as deciphered in the hieroglyphs years earlier on earth. And that she herself is an android as well. 13) The remaining crew returns to the Prometheus. And one of the androids takes over the Ill fated Magellan on a suicide mission and uses it as a 500megaton bomb, on the Malakaks planet. 14) The Prometheus steals the fire of the gods! But the Space Jockey, conducts a last chase to chase the humans, unfortunately It does not know that his load of biological mutants gets free and infects him as well. He crashes and is never heard of again until many years later. 15) So in the future the Nostromo is sent back to retrieve a viable specimen that the Prometheus was unable to sustain.
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
1st of all regarding the post right above mine....or wherever it is as you read this in which some stated that the "Company" doesn't know the creature is deadly or the extent of it's bad intent".....no offense but a big part of that does not seem right, It is clearly stated that they, Wayland Yutani, wants the creature to use as a BIO WEAPONS enhancement early on in the storyline..and that much becomes crystal clear when they arrive on Fury 161 and another BIshop who says he is the real Human one but we never know for sure, and his men, start shooting at the custodial inmates in order to secure the creature they suspect is living within Ripley. someone else up there suggested perhaps... "Prometheus" stole something... I do not think Prometheus stole anything, I suspect it is the name of the ship involved in this film. It's just my little guess.... But I think you are dead bang on the money with the rest of it, and again, that was exactly the main idea in John Spaiths original script, that these Growers were Harvesting these creatures to help with the pre-colonization of planets {Burk calls them something professional, you know those things that purify the air and make it breathable for humans but forget what he calls them right now}. I think Prometheus just might be the connection, the ship itself, it may be the ship that actually is sent to investigate what happened to the first Space Jockey whom crash landed on LV426.
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IGIGOUPrometheus ForumThe Plot, The Story
Thanx "Sparticus" for your insight!. But..my guess.is.. its the ships name "Prometheus" ".He who stole fire from the gods to give to humanity!" ..was the main idea of this film.. They stole the biological essence of life!..the Secret To forming life" on other worlds. I could be wrong . But my alcohol induced script above is what im guessing is going to happen next summer!
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aRogPrometheus ForumPrometheus Ending
Hopefully it leaves some questions, but not too many to leave me unsatisfied.
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PredatordreadsPrometheus ForumPrometheus Ending
I do like the insight that damon mentioned that the sequel to prometheus is not alien however I just hope the sequel to prometheus is not alien. I want prometheus to stand on its own and let this be the space jockeys series. I would like to see that vickers is the other robot and she gives info to the company about what the space jockeys do and their inventory and thus mother and ash mission branches from this.
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumPrometheus Ending
I think it was the original poster here that stated something I thought was extremely insightful and wise. That Space Jockey in particular he said, had quite obviously fossilized, or so it seems, and given this, The crew of the Nostromo that first encountered him, must have done so "MIllions" of years after it had arrived there. I had conveniently forgotten that fossilization happens like that over and only after millions of years have expired. Given this fact, there will either be a Massive Time Advancement sequence in the film, or else, the Space Jockey we are going to be "re-visiting"...is not going to be THAT ONE in particular. And again, this would be in line with the original script Spaiths submitted. There is one more thing... For me, that Space Jockey fits the description completely of "The Growers" in that Spaiths script. I say that Space Jockey is in fact a "Grower" from the spaiths storyline and was retained as part of the new script. I think what we will see is the "Origin" of said "Space Jockey" and on his own home world planet as well...as the growers prepare some soon to happen future mission in space which will obviously end with that species crash landing on LV426...and on a distant planet which I suspect..."Prometheus" will be the 1st ship bearing humans to investigate .
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumPrometheus Ending
I also reminded myself, like I have to every 5-8 years or so that goes by with no new additions to the Alien Storyline that right now for all intents and purposes, LV426 is Gone, it does not exist, it was Nuked from Orbit as Hicks authorized and Ripley executed in "Aliens"...right before they made their escape in "The Sullaco".
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