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nope ...the cds ive are from the Alien Collection ( with a very interesting alien legacy CD ) and there is the classic ( and scaring ) warning call BTW for the 100+ time ive watched alien and for the 100+ time it catched my attention from the 1st frame ...is incredible how it catch you ... i really hope Scott can do again that magic ...and that lead me to some speculations 1) he did add Pearce and Foster because he wasnt able to recreate the right crew chemistry , so he did add 2 people with a strong personality . 2) the crew of the nostromo were made by "not very beautiful people " and not also very young ...ive the slight fear that the prometheus crew is a bit too young and good looking ( expecially in the main characters )

Yeah Frantz, I know what you mean. Every time I watch it it draws me in. The drama, mystery and ultimately the terror.

Mmm...dead people...worms hole...the "dead tunnel"...too mystic for the best horror movie of ever. I think that a great story need be rational, as Alien and Aliens, Alien IV was too much Sci Fi, a bad and poor original argument, Ellen Ripley died and she is cloned 200 years after..whit AND founded in a litle rest of her Blood ¡Come on! If you try to "turn to live" a movie you never do it. Another possibilty as StarWars, staring in the beginin to go at end. For me the end of story is Alien III, Ripley died and we can't do anythink, and of course, Aliens not is Aliens whitow Sigourney Weaver...so...we need find some argument that make her lost minor sensible. I think in a Scientific Base...from a Real Data..you know that some sciencist believe that Aliens come to earth for "Carry Water" as an Oil Station..they come take some of water and thet leave..So can be possible, and terrorific, is one of this "aliens" or "space jokers" came to earth for water...they carrier but..they pick up someone else...can be a virus...can be a bacteria..can be microorganism...that evolute to the creature...thata exterminate all kind of life in the planet of Alien...the space joker is the only survivor...and try to find the earth for live...but he die in way...and here you have the origin of the Alien..the space joker send a signal...Weytland Yutany find it and send to nostromo for investigate what is this. Other story can be more normal and simply that aliens are the nature specie of one planet and the space joker go there to hunt they..but something going wrong..and the aliens goes to space jokers planet kill al population, just one can? Scape, in way he discover that he has one inside, desperate send a signal to warning all the universe..Weilant knows and send to nostromo's crew to investigate it knowing that is a warning signal. We have the origing of aliens and who is the guy in space ship. Last story a litle more Sci Fi, the ship is a secret ship lunchet by the US goverment to investigate a planet outside solarsistem, the space ship goes and...they find this specie, die all expecp one that turn back but in way explode for the host...he could send signal and die...Here the company capture the signal and saw that is "the lost ship" and send to nostromo to investigate it and carry it. Anyway all stories explain the origin of aliens, space jokers and conclude whit this interrogation "How did the company know, exacly the coordenates of ship"

THE ONLY ONE IS ME... MY CALL SIGN ON ALL 4 SOCOM ONLINE'S HAS BEEN THIS... "LT-HIGHTIMES" NOONE CAN EVER GET ANY HIGHER THAN THAT I PROMISE...LMFAO.

That Xeno is a bit big isn't it? :/

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It will be the only Alien movie in which i will support deeply the Alien ... eat them all !!

[quote]Frantz It will be the only Alien movie in which i will support deeply the Alien ... eat them all !! [/quote] I couldn't agree more lol I have also thought of putting the character Kramer from seinfeld and pit him against the Alien. Any thoughts?

Quote - its not supposeto be a size comparison... its just as if it was one of them posters.... like this one - Quote I know, I was pulling your leg. Poster is top class!!!

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watched again alien tonight ... two thoughts 1) the space jockey platform is slightly different ...but still very similar , so much that i start to think that is the same ship . What if the ship is shoot down on the lv426 by the prometheus crew ? 2) in the italian traslation the message "sounds like a menace" and that was interesting ..but in the original it sound like a "warning" .. that make alot of a difference , why they should warn if they want to destroy ? of course the 2 stories could not be linked directly ...

@Spartacus Well Spartacus, I will say that I have a deep “cinematic” love, or at least appreciation for the original 1979 ALIEN film. As far as the rest of the franchise, you could say…I have a 32 year old infatuation with the ALIEN “universe” cooked up by Dan O’Bannon, Ridley Scott, and H.R. Giger. My fondness of the films follow a kind of descending order. I’ll put it this goofy way: If my viewing experiences of the ALIEN films were like sexual experiences with the fairer sex, I would list them thusly: ALIEN: A loving, deep, passionate, exotic, and mysterious time…with a beautiful and romantic climax. Like in a great marriage. Truly making love. Unforgettable! :-) ALIENS: Great foreplay, followed by an exciting, semi-taboo, rollercoaster ride, with a woman I’ve known for seven years…and was always curious about. Ending with a big bang, and then a European cigarette :-o ALIEN 3: Foolin’ around with a babe that reminds me of a woman that I’m still in love with. It’s a pretty good time…but I can’t stop thinking about the one I truly love. Melancholy sex :-( ALIEN: RESSURECTION: Bedding down with a prostitute or a VERY cheap broad. We go through the motions, but it just doesn’t feel right. I can’t really respect her…because she doesn’t even respect herself. She barely resembles who she used to be. And I’m pissed off that I actually paid for this counterfeit action…in one way or another. Nevertheless, I’ll call her again next week :-(( Weird huh? I guess. But that’s the way I feel about the franchise. Unfortunately, I am not as optimistic as you are about the new PROMETHEUS film. It’s pretty much destined to fail, at least ME. Either, because it just won’t measure up as a Great film story, or because it will tweak and mess with my own personal imaginings and Alien lore. So, as an old ALIEN “dog,” I’m pretty much screwed. Of course, there is an extreme, outside chance, that it will meet or even exceed my filmic desires, but I highly doubt it. If there’s a director who can do it, it’s probably Scott. But, even he has a relatively spotty film record lately. We’ll see. “I don’t trust anybody.” ~Dallas…and Neurion “Right. You see, Mr. Parker and I feel that the bonus situation has never been on an…equitable level.” ~Neurion P.S. Thanks for cordiality and kind words in your response to my post.

BEST POST ON THE ALIEN FRANCHISE I HAVE EVER READ BY ANYONE...IN MY LIFE. WELL DONE NEURION I LAUGHED MY BUTT OFF TOO. I WOULD LOVE TO BE A FLY ON THE WALL DURING THE MOMENTS YOU ARE IN THE THEATER SEEING PROMETHEUS FOR FIRST TIME. AGAIN, INCREDIBLE POST AND NOT WEIRD AT ALL. IN FACT, YOU NAILED EXACTLY HOW I SEE ALL 4 OF THOSE FILMS AS WELL, BUT I LINGER A BIT MORE WITH THE WHORE THAT REMINDS ME OF THE OLD GIRLFREND. LMAO.

then the first AvP is like being tied with 7 horny dwarves around :D "get me out of hereeeeee " :D the second AvP is not actually THAT bad but is wave of alien cliches . if ive to point a finger to a great crew chemistry after the first alien i would surely say "sunshine" ...good movie in my opinion while i would say that " PAndorum " have a great script and a good show for ben foster ( there are some lowdowns in the movie too )

I can dig it Ruhaniya!...mine is at least a 3 ship hanger anyway. And we're drinkin' Absinthe and watchin' an ALIEN Marathon tonight. Be there or be SCARE! Main thing is...I don't want you to navigate in your condition. Friends don't let friends fly...too HIGH! Peace! ~Neurion :-{)}

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ALIEN 3: The GOOD, The BAD, and The UGLY THE GOOD Original ideas General atmosphere Some dialogue Art Direction/Production Design Music Cinematography Costumes Sound effects Matte paintings THE BAD Almost all of the Special Visual Effects (especially optical/blue screen effects) A dearth of likeable characters Clunky and clumsy editing Pacing/Story structure Bishop Android connection THE UGLY Killing off prime characters for narrative convenience Killings which lacked purpose Killings which were sloppy and bloody vs. cold, eerie, and calculated The ALIEN’S physique…especially in motion (optical effects) In my opinion, the question is not whether ALIEN 3 is a good film, the question is…WHO is it good for? For myself, after seeing it many times, in different incarnations…I enjoy it. Do I think it’s a good or great film (like ALIEN, Blade Runner, The Thing, ALIENS, or The Terminator), absolutely NOT. After my initial disappointment in ALIEN 3…over the subsequent years…it grew on me. Once I had survived: 1. My initial shock of seeing two beloved characters (Newt and Hicks) needlessly a thoughtlessly killed off over the opening credits…for no other reason but actor availability issues, lazy writing and script constraints 2. The ALIEN looking like some small, Blue Screen-ish, lightweight, optically composited, cockroach thing (still haven’t recovered from the infirmary scene where this DICK head puppet looking thing pulls up to bald Ripley, looking as feeble as a cheap ass marionette). 3. And of course the Christ-like image of Ripley sacrificing herself in the hot lead for all of mankind…which would’ve been okay, except for the chestbursters impeccable timing, and our heroine having the presence of mind to reach up and hold onto the bogus looking practical effect. Not to mention the terrible molten metal animation. ...I was free to enjoy the film…as it is. And the reedited (non-directors cut) version is even better still…despite its goofy editing flaws, further bad animation, and patchy sound. Still infinitely better. @Spartacus I agree with some the comments in your posts. However, these films may belong to the creators/filmmakers/FOX, but it is asses in seats that make or break a film franchise…specifically mine and yours. And if these guys don’t get their shit together and give the people some quality cinema similar to the original ALIEN, the only asses that will be in the theater, will be themselves…give or take a few ALIEN addicts. Also, you’ve mentioned enjoying scenes where the ALIEN 3 Xenomorph devours or eats its victims. I don’t think that any of the ALIEN filmmakers ever intended that the viewer is to believe that the ALIEN…EATS it victims. It’s only ever been depicted as an instinctive means to reproduce and or eradicate anything that could pose a threat to its lifecycle. Not food. It just seems less creepy to me. Maybe I just have a completely different understanding of the ALIEN than you do. Anyway, I enjoy ALIEN 3 as well. Back to the old freezerinos! ~Neurion

ive read on one review of the comic con footage that the thing on Fassbender finger can be his own tear ...on another a black film from the eggs ... - One reviewer said that is Theron using the Flamethrower ..to me is Logan M.Green ... also there is a minicrew of 4 going in a vehicle probably to explore something ..one is surely noomi rapace and another the same logan M.Green .

We can also say that the "thing in the jars" create a mix between the aliens and the humans ( the xenomorph of Alien have a human shape after all ) BUT is also true that the space jockey of halien have 2 arms and a head ... Btw if the goo , the liquid , the black film from the jar have to take some form surely it looks like a mix between the alien architecture and a human body .

All very astute observations Neurion, Whatever it was eating or just ripping to pieces or cutting up to cacoon and store for egg implantation, I found such scenes in Alien 3 absolutely exhillerating to watch. It is the ONLY film of the four in which FULL SHOTS are seen of the Xenomorph engaded in said behaviour. By "Full Shot" I am referring to the Technical term for a shot that includes the entire body of the Alien and taken from a little further back so you can see Clearly what it is doing. The Dr.'s death scene, all of it, including the Xenomorph's intimidation of Ripley before it departs though the air vent above with his mutilated corpse, is a THING OF ABSOLUTE BEAUTY as far as cinema and film making go... IMO. Just a remarkable scene. Never the less I love the way you took the time to break down your argument and i respect that, I can tell there were things that bugged you as did me, but at the same time you could never have done that without a deep love for the entire franchise and all it's 4 films. You "prolly" could have done better than Fyncher. I think in the end when all is said and done and this film is released it will be along long time before I ever watch Alien 3 again, simply because THIS ONE...looks to me like it's going to blow ALL 4 OUT OF THE WATER PERMANENTLY!

I can't find the site that had the quote, but Ridley explains that after discovering the ruins in Africa in which the SJ's leave coordinates for possible descendents of humans in the future that will lead them to the SJ's home world. After making it to the SJ's world the crew find that the SJ's are delighted since humans have, out of all their creations, advanced the furthest. From here the SJs take the crew deeper into space, which is where the "weirdness" begins. The SJs share some of their secrets with the crew(as stated above in the fake-spoiler) in regards to terra-forming, secrets of life, etc. However, for one member of the crew what the SJs have revealed to the humans is not enough, and the natural curiosity of humans takes over. Once he "takes" whatever the SJs wanted to remain a secret from the humans is when things get dicey. The human crew is able to turn one of the SJs "creations" against them(the aliens which will not yet resemble 1979-etc) and they make their escape. The SJ's entire existence is called into question by the human crews actions. The SJs, in a last act of revenge/last laugh send out a lone ship, towards Earth-space - packed with the same cargo that is wiping out the SJs. The pilot of the derelict is on a kamikaze mission. In an "Alien" outtake the actual audio of the "SOS" is played for the crew of the Nostromo. The sound is defintely organic in nature(sounds like a cassette tape in slow-mo/reverse/varying speeds) and not any type of beacon or repeating manufactured signal. I like the idea of humans, as something the SJs "engineered" eons ago, coming to outsmart their creators(or are we ultimately outsmarted?) and then the SJs reverting to what is basically a TNT-vest suicide mission. I remember another Ridley quote in which he states that at the end of Prometheus we find ourselves on-board the derelict itself or what will become the derelict. I also read the part about the SJs having 2 men copulate to reproduce(not sure how such an advanced race would make that mistake) as well as the Weyland Corp. being involved(Yutani has yet to come along). It does make sense though that the SJs are extinct if we are colonizing space ourselves and the first signs of life are enountered by the crew of the Nostromo - aliens and the fossilized remains of a Jockey(with chest-burster hole). Not sure what everyone is getting at about the green/red goo/blood/eggs etc - but remember that in Alien there is another outtake that shows that the alien eggs can be formed not by a queen but by taking living beings and "cocooning" them, etc(Ripley runs into Dallas on the wall, already taking on the form of an egg, and speaking in tones of great pain). So far ALL the plot leaks and Ridley/actors involved quotes on plot seem to be awesome yet not entirely original. Alot seems to be similiar to the Dark-Horse comics Aliens spin-off series from the mid-90s(one spin off in particular, in which Earth is consumed by aliens and the "ghost" of the derelict appears to the main character in a dream to explain the story of the aliens and their own race). However, I am sure I will be proved wrong(but if not, I like the plot and story). On Alien 3 - I wish the Sulaco made it back to Earth and delve into how Ripley(along with Hicks and Newt, as well as Bishop - who may have been a company man in the end) deal with the W-Y Co. etc. Alien 4 totally ruined it with full-blown alien studies taking YEARS(i forget how many it is supposed to be, but WAY too long) to continue again - also I doubt the blast of the terra-forming reactors would have damaged the derelict and its cargo, considering it looked like it had been there for some time and was some distance from Hadley's Hope(people jump to conclusions about the blast radius/effects of a thermonuclear blast - the derelict is in one piece im sure, not to mention the terrain of LV-426(take Nagasaki - a city of hills in which parts of town, although 2-3 miles from impact displayed little to no damage as they were protected by geography like hills and mountain). I think that emphasis should definetely be placed on corporations having more control than govt's in the future as well as the picture painted in Alien(and blade runner) that the future is not all nice and white/polished but rather dingy with salaries just allowing for space crews to eek out a living - "We want to talk about the bonus situation, yes, exactly Dallas, the bonus situation!). Wow, a real novel of blabber I left - have fun deciphering!

All things being said, i think the only potential dissapointment from prometheus could be 1 of two things, or both for that matter, first if it is a garbage movie like avp requiem, or second and most seriously, it has a pg-13 rating, the pg-13 rating will absolutely kill this film. that is what scares me the most, anyone who disagrees need only watch the first avp and see how there is no real suspense of fear in that movie and the cut aways right when someone gets it, is weak, and that is what we'd all be left with, DISSAPOINTMENT!!!!!! hopefully with Ridley at the helm these two things can be averted and the story, whatever it turns out to be, will be entertaining.....

Alien did work because it was SCARING ...was a primitive FEAR ...you were there , in the middle of the crew thinking , with them , how to deal with IT . My main fear is that Ridley aim too high for what must be basically a Sci-fi horror movie . Im interested in an intriguing script but dont carry me too away with gods , life etc etc because its not that kind of a movie . I want to care about the crew , follow them and be scared with them .

Amen to that Blazer1411, ya just know if a film like this is carryin' a Pg-13 rating Into it's opening run it's gonna die a quicker death than one via Xenomorph!

LEts round up what we know until now -the crew ( ore crews ) should be of 11-13 ( we still dont know if Pearce or Foster are part of the crew ) -the ship is named Prometheus but there can be another ship named MAgellan ..if the two act togheter ..or if one is a rescue vessel ..or a relict ..we dont know . -we know the the spall character die ...and maybe the wilson one too -we know that the crew is quite interested in some "cylinders" "eggs" that contain some crystals or green slime . -we know that there is surely an android character played by Fassbender and maybe another ..surely the character David is quite important to the story -there is surely a premise before the space trip ..that can explain the beginning of life on earth and/or some discovers or the planning that lead to the space trip . ( theron , Pearce and Fassbender can be involved in that part ) -there must me some sort of infection or insemination , something that make someone of the crew feel sick . -there are wheeled vehicles - they found structures very similar to the spaceship on LV426 -we know that the spall character is killed by an alien -we know that rapace is in love with logan marshall green character anything else ?

wow - this past character bio is really good. Where did you get this from?

This back story/Bio is a good read. Where did you get this material?

"ya- rrright!?"

Spall also have said that he will be killed by an "alien" ... assuming he will die quite fast in the movie ( hes surely not one of the central characters ) we can think that there will be clear "alien" enemies and not , or better not only , metamorphosis- contaminations things .

Frantz, I LOVE what you wrote. I remember watching the regular version in the theaters and consciously knowing something wasn't right with it....having a very terrible feeling that a lot of scenes were MISSING. Years later I was flabbergasted when I saw the extended cut, it was an entirely different movie, and what struck me the most was this, in several of the scenes we saw a thing that we never saw before, You are right, I think Lyncher is egotistical or was at that time, and I remember reading there were a lot of production problems in the U.K. But we saw some scenes that showed FULL SHOTS of the Xenomorph as it was eating some of the custodians and one FULL SHOT of the Creature grabbing one of the custodians from above pulling him up and devouring him in mid air. The autopsy scene of NEWT in that film was perhaps the single most terryfying scene in any of the films, only because of what it implied and not because of the gore or blood, it really wasn't that gory, what it was IMO was Fntastic Directing that was right in line with Ridley Scott's original thought process of showing "as little as possible of the creature" and having it still be terrifying, but Fyncher broke that rule later in the film in the ONE and ONLY way that made sense, showing a FULLSHOT of someone being eaten by the Xenomorph, which I had been praying for after both of the first two films failed to do that. I was utterly amazed at some of Cameron's shots in Aliens, but even he did not show a complete full shot of someone being eaten by a Xenomorph. I found it completely exhillerating to watch. But I do respect your opinion very much, and appreciated even more the way in which you presented it. My opinion is not a popular one on this subject, I have found that most people agreed with you. I have a really deep appreciation of the art of filmmaking and went to filmmaking school in colledge. So I always stick to my guns no matter what other people say or think, I just feel more comfortable being my self even it means sticking to my unpopular opinion. That said...Blazer1411 I absolutely was impressed with what you wrote. & I think you hit on something very important. I could never articulate it the way you did though it was a feeling that I could not express that resonated throughout that film... "Golic's obsession with Confronting it"... & the dread like tone of that film.

@Frantz, that's interesting news to hear about Guy Pearce and Fassbender doing scenes together. I also wondered the same thing that Pearce could be the 2nd Android. If that's true, perhaps the two could be working together against the good of the crew for the company's benefit or even more interesting, both take opposing sides and eventually have a showdown that would be pretty awesome to see. As far as the goo/mutation angle is concerned, I rather like that idea and think it could bring on a whole new twist in the series. Of course that line of thinking would be venturing into "The Thing" and even "Leviathan" territory for those of you who have seen that one. I think the idea of making members of the crew the actual monsters is a really cool concept and should be explored further.

A good source (he's been right about everything up to now) released some info about the Spain shoot and Pearce's role. [b]Anonymous said... Fassbender has said that he plays a "butler". Last year, Vulture -which has so far has proven to be right on the money- reported that one of the parts is that of "an older businessman along for the ride".[/b] For me, Pearce is the older businessman (would explain the rumour he is in heavy prosthetics) and Fassbender is his android butler.I wouldn't be surprised if Pearce's character is the benefactor of the archaeological dig that finds the co-ordinates.

Haven't thought of either of those films in a while Hudson25 and I think "The Thing re-do-kinda-thingy" is being released quite soon. In Leviathan that monster was gray, huge and wide bodied and looked almost mechanical if I remember this right... and that's all I remember from that film. Please tell me how dreadfully wrong I am if I am. {and I think you're right about the goo and that for that exact reason it most likely won't happen, Ridley Scott wouldn't deviate like that would he...?...}.

Pearce and Fassbender are the best two actors of the group ..to be honest im not happy to see one doing the android and the other doing the old businnessman :D If its really that THEN the role of the "star" is back to noomi rapace and Idris Elba ...im curious to know the role of Ben Foster

One of the Full shots was when It grabs the DR. and then it [CRAWLS] over to Ripley and then there is another close up of it sticking it's face up to Ripley's Wicked!

Actually Xeno's r in it, they will be redesigned and larger then the ones we are use to.... doesnt anyone read the trivia page?

Once again Lindelof is asked how Prometheus is connected to Alien (a question I'm sure he's been asked a few too many times by now), but in this clip he also reveals: [b] "If there were a sequel to Prometheus, it would not be Alien. It would be it's own movie entirely because it goes off in an entirely different direction"[/b][i][u][/u][/i] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGBStEtUK6I&feature=player_embedded

then why they used the Weyland Yutani company ? EVERYTHING we know surely point to Alien and more you link the movie to the Alien universe ( androids , WY , space jockeys , cilinders/eggs ) the less you can escape "in an entirely different direction "