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Hello all, good to see some really tantalising views up here on what direction 'Prometheus' will take concerning the creatures. I'll refrain from using the term 'Xenomorph' , as I hate it like some others here, but I may be in a minority. I say it may go the way of 'the egg before the chicken' in that I think Ridley Scott mentioned the back story emphasis may be on the eggs and the 'Facehuggers' themselves. We have to start from the birthing mechanism right? Look at some of Giger's early designs for the huggers - they're not as spidery, but boy are they more nightmarish! Like the Alien, the huggers have been done to death and too recognisable. I think much more Necronomicon-like cousins of these will bring a fresh terror and tip the scales back into more a adult and sexual Freudian horror than the last 'comicky' outings.

Amen Zeta, Instead of "Xenomorph," I prefer to refer to the Alien as "The Big Fellow" or "The Big Chap" as the ALIEN film crew did while making the film, more than 32 years ago. You know what? The film crew of the original "JAWS" movie referred to the large animatronic SPFX shark as "Bruce." I've always thought that funny.----So, you'd like to see some old-school Giger Facehuggers huh? I don't know...do ya think the world is ready for that?? I'm still trying to get those paintings outta my head. Those enormus slug-like things, equipped with tentacles, Testicles, and a huge scrotum sack. Not to mention the blowjobish nature of the tube being vividly shoved down the victims throat. Whew! But then again...it couldn't be any more shocking than a Lady GaGa Video. So I say MUSH ON! Good Call Zeta! --- I LOVE THIS SHITE!!! Finally...I'm able to chat with folks who know what the Frack I'm talkin' about when it comes to the AAAAAALIEN. Also...sorry about the length of my posts fellow "Nostromoites", I realize that they're longer than the "Big Fellows" cranium. But I'm just havin' so much fun. Almost as much fun as I had in the theatre when I was 12, watching Ripley change into her space shuttle suit. WOW!!! Well...come on, she wasn't Megan FOX...but I was 12. My dad was supposed to have taken me to see ROCKY II. Instead I wound watching a foul-mouthed "space girl" strip for a "Dick-headed" Monster. Man...my dad got his ass "chewed off" by mom when we got home. Sheee was pissed!Ahhh Good Times... Lucky Star OUT.

Hey Rick,

I agree. Currently, we are only posting official news, not much so on the "rumours" that are flying around at the moment, but we will be hiring some news staff shortly. We are also working to improve and polish up the site. We're running off of a new custom software which he hope will take us to new hights, and open up some cool new features regarding the movie and the community interaction, but for the next week, news may be slow. If you feel you are a news junky for Prometheus and think you could benefit the site by posting news articles daily, or often enough, then send us an e-mail at info@prometheus-movie.com and we'll get back to you!

This site isn't very old at all yet, but we love to see the ammount of hype Prometheus is getting! This will push us to polish the site and crank out the news alot faster.

Please...NO MORE PREDATOR CONNECTIONS!! Alien vs. Predator...sheeeesh! This is ALIEN! The BADDEST ASS Science Fiction-Horror film ever made...not Abbott and Costello Meet the Wolfman? So Please give it a rest with the Predator. The original "Preditor" was a kickass film in it's own rite. But jamming the two together on film, just because FOX can...don't make it right...or even work. All you gotta do is watch AVP 1 and Requiem...CHEEEEEESY! How about "Alien vs. Michael Meyers" or "Godzilla vs. JAWS." Hey, I'm a big fan or the original Predator flick, but in my opinion, AVP and the like, are more comicbook or graphic novel types of material, which happens to be where they came from in the first place.------As far as "Prometheus" explaining the Space Jockey and the chair connection...Dallas said,"Looks like its growing out of the chair." The key words being..."looks like." That's just what it looked like to Dallas. Who knows what really happened? To me, virtually everything in or on that Derelict ship looked like it was growing out of something else. That's the biomechanical nature and beauty of HR Giger's strange, unmistakeable, and unforgettable work. My guess, is when Giger painted and sculpted the Space Jockey/chair, there wasn't a lot of "ryme or reason"...or "scientific" logic to the design. It was just an amalgam of his dreams, nightmares, opium trips, and imagination. In fact, if you google the image for his painting (done prior to the making of ALIEN) called "Necronomicon V," you'll see that the uppermost figure, on the left has similarities to the Space Jockey "we all know and love." -Neurion OUT

Awesome,
So is the official fan site here in anyway related to Fox Film Corp? Just curious. I wish you guys the best, so far so good and I'm spreading the word in Facebook. Helps having 1300 friends there and some affiliated friends with the History Channel that are also Fans of Ridley and the Alien Genre.
Regards,
Rick

Thanks Rick!

@Neurion,

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@Rick and Neurion, Great ideas guys, you seem to know alot about the Alien. It will be interresting to see what they put together for the new Xenos in Prometheus. I doubt Ridley will go by Cameron's use of the "Warrior" Alien or "Drone", but revert back to what he created in the first film. More mysterious and more individuality.

Either way, it will be interesting to see what happens. Hopefully we can score an interview in the coming months and get some of these questions answered!

I think Neurion and TK are the resident "Alien" Experts. I hit the Genre a lot later with Aliens and Cameron in '85 at 9 and have been a die hard follower of the genre ever since. I still have the Alien Quadrology with the paper covers falling off and can proabably recite the Aliens script in my sleep. I really hope Ridley rolls the Alien back to the opaque head with the real human skull under it. That still gives me the heebiegeebies. I'm not taking away from the prowess, elegance and the carefully calculating alien in the original but 100+ drones in Aliens would still scare the crap out of anyone. At the same time I think they're too bulky and not as mobile/or graceful as the original. It sucks being torn.

You would be right young Padowan! *wink*

Does anybody know how to change our profile pic or avatar on this website? I click on the avatar button in the profile settings section...and I get nothing...no way to browse or load or paste an image. This is not a WARNING...this time it is an SOS. Can anybody help????? Thanks, Neurion

Anyways, whether the Alien eggs were brought to the planetoid by the Space Jockey, or the eggs were indigenous to the place…is never made clear in the film. Even if in the sequel “ALIENS,” Ripley says that the derelict ship was not from there and not indigenous. The original movie never says were the “acid bleeders” are from. I for one, would prefer never to see the Alien’s or the Jockey’s home world. It would never live up to my imagination or expectation. I don’t mind “Prometheus” unlocking a few “doors” and exploring some new territory. I just think they should leave the bulk of the mystery intact, and keep their Hollywoody, money grubbing paws off the original concept and story. Don’t retroactively infect a bad-ass completed original work. < As far as the way the “acid bleeders” should look in the new Prometheus project…hmmmm. They may not even be in it. But if one or more are, I believe all will be served best by Scott & company adhering to what was done in the original film…at least regarding the Big Alien or Warrior alien creature’s design (I hate that “Warrior” term J. Cameron cooked up). The original Alien creature was so cool, plotting, and self-sufficient…not some little drone bitch who answered to a termite queen. This gut was building his own brood out of Brett and Dallas’s bodies. < Neurion’s unofficial guide to portraying the Alien well on the big screen: < DO forget everything that has been shot since 1979. DO restore the dome-ish, slick, dolphin-like, sheen to the elongated translucent scull. DO shoot in darkness, with quick shots, and strange or unfamiliar angles. DO take ideas and designs from the original suit design and casting selections. DO make the teeth appear metallic, and use proper gelatin consistency for drool. DO design it to look more humanoid. The more humanoid…the more scary! DO go back to the original mouth and mandibles (with translucent outer lips). i.e. The Exorcist + Night of the Living Dead +Anthropomorphism + Vampires + Demonic = SCARY < Godzilla + Jurassic Park + Any big dumb monster = NOT SCARY < DO NOT design it to be taller than 8 or 10 feet tall. (the larger, the less creepy) DO NOT give it an extra leg joint. DO NOT have smoke emitting from it’s mouth. DO NOT have it growl (Alien 3 & 4). Strange breathing, drooling, or screeching sounds only please. DO NOT design it to look like an insect, a reptile, a dinosaur, or an effed up, naked, hermaphroditical, mongoloid, “Pumpkinhead” ripoff (Alien 4). DO NOT dump jelly and slime all over the suit in order to camouflage bad creature costume design. < These rules apply whether the Alien emerges from a Human or a Space Jockey type extra-terrestrial chest cavity. Both humans and the Jockey race appear to share fairly similar physiology and bone structure thus far. With the exception of the Jockey’s tubular shape from the nasal area…down the sternum. In any case…I feel that the filmmakers should base most extra-terrestrial designs religiously and rigorously on the original film’s HR Giger designs. < Dallas: I don’t trust anybody! < Neurion

Damn Neurion...I seriously want to sit down over a cup of coffee or glass of warm milk or freakin bottle of JD and have a long talk! I am not alone! Finally!

Damn straight TatooedKoi, If you're reading this..."we are the resistance!" I'm good with the coffee, warm milk, and the JD, or we could just combine them and go with ultra strong Irish Coffee. I haven't had a good, drunk, Alien conversation in aeons. I think that FOX and Scott Free should hire the two of us on as Alien Expert Consutants. I don't trust that their not going to screw this thing up. You and I could be the only thing standing between classic ALIEN narrative...born of the post-Viet Nam era, and yet another botched addition to this tired and suffering franchise. "The quest stands upon the edge of a knife. Stray but a little and it will fail. Yet, hope remains...while the company it true," As a noble Elven queen once said. Perhaps Sir Ridley, St. Ripley, and FOX will read these posts, heed our cinematic prayers, and render a worthy gospel or new testament for the ALIEN Canon. On another note...I'm going to miss kookey ol' Dan O'Bannon...aren't you? ------Peace, Neurion P.S. Post it if you ever in Southern California. We'll have that drink and that talk!

Does anybody know how to change our profile pic or avatar on this website? I click on the avatar button in the profile settings section...and I get nothing...no way to browse or load or paste an image. This is not a WARNING...this time it is an SOS. Can anybody help????? Thanks, Neurion

Neurion,
Directly under the avatar name you copy and paste a link to a new avatar pic.


TK sorry guys I got tied up at work over the weekend I hate programming robots they don't like to listen very well.
Regards,
Rick

Below is a link that talks about the egg silo storyline.
http://alienexplorations.blogspot.com/2009/03/dissecting-derelict-gigers-egg-silo-and.html

You know what?...This has bugged me ever since I was a 12 year old kid. Everybody would be talking about the eggs in the derelict ship…and I would be insisting that the eggs were not aboard the vessel…but under it. I was one of those “weird” kids who went Alien-crazy back in ’79. I collected every book or toy my parents allowed me to; posters, jigsaw puzzles, a photo-novel, The Book of ALIEN(the making of the film), and HR Giger’s Alien book. In 1979, Alien on video tape…was hard to come by. So, I satiated my addiction by reading the books and studying the photos as closely as a forensic scientist might study corpses. When Dallas, Kane, and Lambert make their final approach and entry into the derelict space craft, they are clearly shown entering very near the bottom or lower part of the craft. The three oval, vaginally shaped openings, through one of which the reconnaissance team enter the ship, appear to be near it’s underbelly. Therefore, unless Ridley Scott, HR Giger, Michael Seymour, Leslie Dilley, and Roger Christian had completely lost their minds and all sense of proportion, The alien egg silo and chamber were located in a cavern beneath the derelict spacecraft. I’ve heard all kinds arguments to the contrary. Like…what about the derelict or space jockey markings within the egg silo/chamber? For myself…I prefer not knowing. That’s probably what I loved the most about the original movie. There was so much that was in fact…”alien”; the transmission, Ash, the planetoid, the derelict, the jockey, the Alien itself, and all of it’s forms. I enjoy the mystery, and revel in the curiosity attached to all the “loose ends”. To quote some vernacular from those post-Star Wars days…ALIEN was Boss, Bitchin, Primo, Gnarly and Rad! I hope “PROMETHEUS” doesn’t explain everything away, like George Lucas destroyed “The Force” with on swift stroke…with microscopic bacteria called Midi-chlorians. What a bunch of uninspiring, scientific crap. I really like the bizarre, strange, and arcane nature of ALIEN. It also had a kind of raunchiness to it that I really like. If “STAR WARS” was like “The Beatles,” Then ALIEN was like the “Rolling Stones.” Gimmie Shelter Baby…. Neurion

Hi Y'all,
All I can say is that I am totally psyched about the potential of this film. Even the great Cameron-made Aliens can't compare to the visceral, brilliant horror created by Scott in Alien (yup, I know they weren't meant to be the same "type" of film). If anyone can expand the story it's Scott.

As for what I want to see...two words: space jockey. I have to admit that part of the mystique and long-lasting interest in the space jockey is it's lack of explanation, but with that said, I've always been major curious about the space jockey's story. I do hope that Scott uses today's technology combined with "old school" special effects to make a visually pleasing movie. Oh, and the fact that Giger is on-board for this project: all the better!

Would it be a little creepy if I put up a calendar counting down the days until this film opens?

Hey Tattoo,
I am as stoked about this movies as you are and agree the Space Jockey is going to be awesome but to keep up with the mystique of the original it "grew out" of the chair how is Ridley going to factor this in the movie? Will be interesting to see. Countdown would be cool but as of 4-20 they were only 3 weeks into filming. I don't think they're going to make the June 12 deadline.
Laters,
Rick

Howdy Rick,
Don't know how the space jockey growing out the chair angle is going to be handled. I've paused on that scene and looked at scene stills till my eyes crossed to get more detail. I have heard that what we are seeing is biomechanical "armor". I will be a bit disappointed if we finally see a live space jockey and we have something less interesting that what were already familiar with in Alien. Again, with Giger being involved i'm hoping for something original and inventive.

You know when I think of the Space Jockey I can't help but think of the series Farscape where the pilot was actually transplanted into the space ship and became part of the living organic ship. That could be how the Space jockey's did it as well via biomechanics. Thus if they were masters of biomechanics then they could ahve easliy engineered the Aliens as well. On a side note I really hope they don't put any predators in this one. Well maybe a hint about how the Predators came across them would be interesting but just a "hint".

Hey Admin,
We need more news. I feel like a Prometheus "crackhead" jonesin for more info on the movie....lol
Rick

Neurion nailed it on the head about portrayal of the alien in Alien. None of the other films quite got it. I'm hoping we see some of that original alien. I think the acid blood is one of the most basic traits of the beastie. As for everything else we just can't be sure. If we assume that the alien pulls genetic cues from the host species then I think the resulting adult could have wildly varying traits. Even the long skull and second jaws could be changed in shape based on the final form of the adult. The Dark Horse Aliens comics did touch on the final appearance of the adult and they appeared fairly radically different than the adult human host alien. Another thing to mention about the second jaw is that Giger (in an interview I read a while back) said that he wasn't happy with the second jaws and that for the Alien 3 xenomorph design he replaced the second jaws with a long flexible "tongue". So, depending on Giger's involvment we may see something we've never seen before.

You guys bring up some really good points. Let me pose this question grab your old Alien DVD throw it in and look at the Alien Egg Cave under the Space Jockey. Does that Cavern look atleast larger than the ship? Too me that Cavern look like it went on forever. I know they tried to portray the ship as being huge but it looked more like it crashed and opened up the cavern under ship thus under the space jockey's chair.

Also the eggs that are in the ship could be a different "type" of alien then the ones in Aliens. I don't remeber the types, from the video game days. I know they portayed them much like a Hive mind type creature, such as Ants, and Bees.

Interesting thought Rick. Yes, the matte painting they used for the view of the Egg Chamber was a bit out of scale (IMHO) based on the exterior shots of the alien ship. The original story featured an "egg silo" that the crew of the tug was to go into to find the eggs and a bunch of other information about the alien. It wasn't included in the film (obviously) but wonder if there is a connection to the original story in that scene.

I'm going to have to go back through my DVDs and read through some of the information about the film in it. Was it part of the original screen play and was it actually filmed or written?

I don't remember exact details about how far the egg silo story got. If I remember the egg silo was part of O'Bannon's original story, but I can't remember if it ever got written into the screenplay. Will do some research and try to find out.

TK can you link some of those designs?

Hi Rick Below are the links to the Alien 3 Giger Work: [url]http://www.hrgiger.com/alien4f.htm[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkvzPnODNTQ[/url] The second link is for a documentary about Giger's designs for Alien 3. The most amazing thing about the video is that I had never seen any of the design work he did until i found this (a couple of months ago). Very cool!

Hey Everyone,
I was reading that the Space Jockey's are going to be 8ft tall and animatronic Which means they can ambulate. Yet, in Ridley's original Alien film it was said that the creature looked like it grew out of the chair. I hope this is addressed in the film.


Also, the plot is about alien DNA so I hope this will help tie the whole Genre together from Resurrection (which in my opinion killed the series) back to the original Alien. It will I can see shed some light on how The corporation knew of the signal and changed the Nostromo's course. Side Note. Any hints about the cut scene on the destroyed earth from resurrection being addressed?

Is there any word on whether Ridley is going old school with Alien suits or are they going to be all CGI?
Later,
Rick

Hey All, All of the current "normal" characteristics of the Alien that you see in this genre will probable be present. There will positvely be some new ones as well since it was mentioned that this movie takes us back to the "Alien homeworld". Now the question I have is what will those new characteristics be since we get to see them in their natural habitat and in hopefully a pure form unpolluted with human or space jockey DNA. This inturn leads me to more questions, where do they exist in that planet's "food chain" top, middle or bottom? Are there nastier creatures than the Aliens on the homeworld? Are there different alien clans or better word would probable be "hives" on the homeworld? The questions for me go on and on. Regards, Rick

Of course this is just my own personal opinion, but don’t think that the Alien (creature) has been portrayed well since 1979. The original “Alien” in Ridley Scott’s film was extremely unique in a way that almost escapes me. It had a strange quality about it that the subsequent filmmakers and productions have not been able to reproduce. I find it difficult to put into words, so maybe it’s just me. Maybe the creature of the first film affected me in a way that other folks just wouldn’t “get” or understand…or maybe they would. I’ll try to describe what I mean. To me, the original Alien or xenomorph had a kind of regal or royal air about it. It was beautiful and horrific at the same time. With very few, but carefully framed camera shots, it came off as completely confident in its actions. Its body or physique was so statuesque and graceful, like a cross between a tall, lean Zulu warrior and a black widow spider. I’m comparing all of this to all of this to the subsequent ALIEN franchise films. Even to the great “ALIENS”, which in my opinion is the next best after the original. The sequels seem content to depict the Xenomorphs as some kind of extra-terrestrial version of a velociraptor or something. There kind of messy, way to slimy, and seem kind of dumb. In the first film, Ash the android called the Alien a “Perfect Organism,” and I totally “buy it”…completely, within the context of the story. Even the queen alien in ALIENS was not as fearsome, scary, magnificent, sublime, majestic, and exquisite as the first. She was too large, clunky, uncoordinated, boney and antlike to be related to “Kane’s son.” Don’t get me wrong, I think ALIENS is a great movie. However, I find ALIEN to be a masterpiece. Don’t even get me started on that big, dopey, white thing at the end of Alien: Resurrection. Anyways, that full on H.R. Giger creation from the fist picture still haunts my dreams from time to time. You gotta love it. In space…no one can hear you scream, Neurion

Welcome both of you to the Prometheus Fan Community! It's great to see how much hype this film is getting so early on!

Hello everyone, just stumbled on this while Googling' 'Prometheus' - looking great to me! Only 12 months away for this big event. I hope for some great discussion here in the meantime.

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Now thats an avatar! I'll bet you he has acid in his didie.

Hello all! 44/M/USA.NH. Can't wait for this movie and some insight on the space jockey. The apperance of this "thing" in Alien really made me wonder it's origins and how it fell victim of the Aliens. Looking forward to new set news and hopefull some picture stills.

If I remember correctly, each Alien presented in the 4 movies were 99.5% identical except for the way they moved,thought and problem solved. I would expect that the new Alien would the be similar with a personality and social skills of the Space Jockey. Hopefully the Space Jockey doesn't have a personality that of Ja Ja Binks. That would be a huge drag! I would like to see the new Alien more as they were presented in Alien and Aliens. More primal and animalistic.

Trailers won't be released for a while, hopefully we can get some teasers up near 2012, but I doubt we'll see any until a month or so before the movie is set for release, so probably May, 2012. Unless one leaks out early, but Prometheus-Movie.com will keep an eye out for it. You can count on that.

Welcome to the community by the way! Great to see new fans of the project signing up!

Thanks Big Proto-P! I only recently heard the news of an acutal bona fide ALIEN prequel and I have high hopes as Ridley Scott and the venerable Godfather of ALIEN H.R. Giger are involved in the film. Any word on movie trailers coming our way? Thanks! V.A.