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Awesome!, I'd love to see a mini series about them and their culture 

My only thought at the moment:

Bring. Back. Shaw.

Or at least pay her character the respect it deserves by showing how she died in a flashback. I would have more respect for A:C if Ridley took some time to show that:

1) Dr. Shaw was already doomed after having the black goo spawn the trilobyte inside her, and her looking sickly was a sign that she was already on her way out.

2) David's respect for Shaw led to a merciful death, where Shaw wanted David to end her life. This could explain why David is crying right before he releases the payload on the Engineers.

3) After her death, David (in a sick way) paid the ultimate tribute to Shaw's desire to create life by having her be the blue print for his alien creations. 

If this happens I would be okay with Shaw's death...I just simply cannot accept that despite his admiration for her and after all she did to help him he just murders her out of "necessity".

I'm sure others completely disagree, but this is what I choose to believe. :) 

The first piece of science fiction I saw was the lake scene in Jurassic Park, but the first full sci-fi movie I saw was Jurassic Park III.

Well...It's been 10 years and the Engineers are yet to show up .......and how would they know the settlement was destroyed or under attack? Do they remotely monitor each seeded planet(orrery?)  ?

How long would it take them to reach planet 4.

The Engineers should be able to put 2 and 2 together...plenty of corpses and a wrecked shuttle to sift through...Finding Walter would make the chase much easier.

I'm guessing the Covenant is pretty slow(conserving power and all),  a Juggernaut could probably catch them....Probably around LV426!

Not soon enough! Wish they'd sell out and get on the Star Wars/Disney train and do yearly installments. THAT would be epic. RS could Executive Produce, and various GREAT interested directors could follow the storylines. The Universe is wide open now.

Eh, too far back to remember.

Star wars most likely

Pretty sure I saw 2001, but it didn't grab me at that time.

Star Wars, then Alien are the two that I remember the most and the ones that literally changed my life. 

Hard to tell. Hmm, 2001 or  Battlestar Galactica, back in the late 70ties early 80ties.

@dk Pandorum is true horror and a sci fi classic. Passengers was the recent release that was...so so.

Good thought provoking discussion. Well thought out and well done!

I enjoyed it. It's not for the action whores, however!

Great! Lots of shadow usage...very dark, but in a good way!

Fantastic! Thanks for the link!

Mine was actually Alien. I was around 7 years old, it was late at night and I was up and sneaking some TV in while my parents had a dinner party. It didn't scare me so much as it fascinated me. The scene where the Xeno opens his mouth to kill Parker, I thought it tore him in half for some reason.

I remember reading the novel on a trip a few years later and being so happy to make the connection and finally be able to put a name to the strange movie I had seen years earlier. I saw Blade Runner around the same time, my Dad let me watch it. Lots of Ridley Scott in my childhood, lol! 

Star Wars, but that's really a fantasy film, not sci-fi. Alien was the first true sci-fi film I ever saw.

My father took me to see it when i was a kid. Scared the crap out of me, but it started my love of hard sci-fi. I remember a lot of parents took kids to see it, probably thinking it was Star Wars-ish. When it got to the chest burster scene, the kids were all screaming and crying parents were leaving to go home.

A:C theatrical run was short lived so it is a good a thing. Sooner - the better.

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Mine was Alien. At 5 years old no less and it scared the soul out of me. 

DK - The first Science Fiction films I remember having watched were E.T,  The Dark Crystal, and The Never Ending Story. I and my sister adored those films so very much! As a matter of fact, we still watch them to this day! :)

Ranting Xeno - Cool back up list. And yes poor Mork will be  stretch unless we recast a new actor. as u say Robin Williams  is doubtful at the present to re prise the role ;)

Bloody hell these are amazing!!! and very inspiring...

Hey dk! was wondering where you had been dude?

I am so tired of death and resurrection on film .

I would think the engineers would be far more fascinated in the remains of Shaw, Walter if somehow alive does not need them... only time .

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i was also thinking about how David could have used the Juggernaut to communicate with Earth. No, it wasn't didn't mentioned in the movie but someond had to stick David's security access code etc in there, even though the crew of Prometheus was assumed dead or least had disappeared. 

Actually DJ, its Vegemite...... lol. I guess I'm liking your theory Foxcatcher and it fits the story arch. Thanks Big Dave for yyour thoughts. 

I think I have figured out the issue. Ridley now makes many films at a time. When he made Alien his entire creative self busted it's ass to make it the masterpiece we all agree that it is. If only he'd stuck with the original script for Prometheus. Reminds me of Alien 3 and what could have been if the breathtakingly original was allowed to have been allowed to have come to fruition. Alas. 

Well, those campfire embers are burnin' low and I hear those neo vermin stirrin' 'round. I suppose it's time to call it a night. Be safe y'all, ya hear?

Hi there! Huh, you wrote a lot of good thoughts, theories. Yesterday i wanted to reply, but because it's a pretty long and interesting post and unfortunately my English isn't good át áll, I wasn't enough brave writing a comment :D naaaa but today... 

1-2. Wow, I didn't think about this. Honestly ín this case the 40days/40 years would be a better choise, but this connection between the 7 days/7years and creation/time of the journey is a very good idea.

3-4. Good point about the Covenant thing. I was also wondering, whose covenant we are talking about in this film. You have a good interpretation of this. I didn't think about this before, so here's another possibility for the meaning of the.title. 

5. Okey, I agree, but.for me Walter isn't a Jesus type figure át all. He did nothing to think this, át least for me. David alsó isn't the antichrist for me. But indeed, hé is a luciferian/promethian character. 

The interpretation of the John Denver song is brilliant :) a very sarchastic way. Maybe David uses this song with an aim. 

6. Yes, you are right. But honestly i couldn't like this character, they made him a totally silly and weak  person. Shaw was a definitely good christian character, but Oram... Eeeh. But that's just my opinion.

7. The position of Shaw for me isn't like Jesus on the cross át all.

8-9. Well, maybe maybe. But it's a bit too much religious connection for me. I emphasize FOR ME. It doesn't mean, you are not right  in this question. 

10. Very good point. The lake of fire allegory fits here. Just for me the water isn't the water of baptists.

12-13. Okey, so David is a satanic, luciferian, promethian character. The "cast the first stone" thing is a good point of your interpretation, but again: Oram isn't a Jesus character. I think, in this film arent any Jesus type character. And when an alien chestbust, it's sure you wake up because of the pain. David wanted to mock Oram, that's why he waked him up. He would feel the pain when the alien was born. 

David for me isnt that bad character. I'm a protestant, so please, don't misunderstand me. Ín my opinion the power of the Satan also makes us to be better. There's a really good book:

Imre Madach: The Tragedy of Man. 

Indeed, Lucifer is a negative figure, but not that evil. Hé has the power, but also has a faith, because God created him too. His faith is always Fall.

Na so David is a kind of Lucifer, but just think about that: he started to be a creator. Hé loves his creations. We never saw such love from the Engineers to Humans (actually they wanted to wipe out us), and Humans to Androids. (Nobody liked David). And what do we see from him? Hé teaches his creations, alsó say nursery rhymes to them... Hé loves them, hé is a kind of good creator, a good father. But is he egoist? Yes. Narcist? Yes. Hé has a lot of "bad point", but hé is also a good father. Are we blaming on him, because hé uses us and the inhabitants of planet4,such an object? Mmm, yes, we can. But what are we doing here on Earth ás Humans? We mutating organism to produce more and more antibiotics, we make experiments on animals etc etc. We arent better at all, even worse. Só David's character is a bit plural. I can't see him just a simple villain.

13. Good thoughts, just again, I don't think, David want to destroy life. He created another type of lifeform. We , humans also create things that needs destroying lifeforms. just God, who could create from "nothing". In the Prometheus we saw another theory about creation, which belongs tó the sacrificial . It's pure, better than mutating everything just for living in a "better world". Uh, maybe it seems, i hate Mankind! Noooot at all, just because you wrote about David as a bad villain, I just wanted to show another point of view.

20. Very solid point, thank you. 

22. There's no bread just wine... Or who knows. Dead bodies ás bread , wine ás blood... 

Oh, there's lots of them pre Alien - Campbell's Who Goes There?, Robert Silverberg's Symbiont, Heinlein's The Puppet Masters, A.E. Van Vogt's Voyage of the Space Beagle, Jack Finneys The Body Snatchers. Octavia Butler's Clay Ark is another good one, although that may have been a few years after Alien.

Excellent, dark, and disturbing movie.

Off the beaten path, for sure, and far away from conventional Hollywood diarrhea. 

A24 was also the studio behind Ex-Machina.  

Barf- the list and backlog keeps growing- http://www.scified.com/topic/43846

It's an effectively creepy film. 

It looks all over the map yet interesting. I like how it doesn't seem to give the movie away in a trailer like a couple other RS movies in the last few years did.

Kethol Interesting. I imagine your time line might include Who Goes There (short story I think)  that became The Thing....

*Nods to VIVISECTEDENGINEER with a matter-of-fact expression as the realization dawns within his eyes*

Good stuff! The last pic has a SW ESB vibe though imo.

Pandorum- off to Amazon again.