Neomorph
MemberChestbursterNov-11-2024 5:00 AMSounds good! I wonder how Earth 2120 will be depicted. Dark and dirty? Modestly advanced? Jaws 19 hologram? Hopefully we'll get that teaser soon!
Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianNov-14-2024 5:03 PMAs much as I am delighted that AVP 04 is getting retconned to oblivion (Prometheus and Covenant had already did that) it still does not change my opinion of Alien Earth. I believe its going to be a total disaster at a continuity perspective:
1. ignoring the alien prequels
2. having xenomorphs on earth prior to the events of the nostromo and hadley's hope
3. focusing the story on transhumans rather than the titular monster
Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianNov-16-2024 1:13 PMI just wanted to add, ALIEN Earth is basically switching places with AVP 04.
Neomorph
MemberChestbursterNov-16-2024 3:26 PMThe retconning and continuity issues are indeed silly and/or make no sense, but after Prometheus reduced the ambiguous space jockey into a mere suit for tall, living roman statues, and David being the creator of the xenomorph as we know it, I just couldn't take it seriously anymore.
With that being said I'll view Alien Earth like I watch Terminator films, by disregarding the confusing timeline and watching them as individual stories while ignoring the connections.
Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianNov-17-2024 3:48 PMNeomorph
Would you be equally disappointed if they were the massive bulky elephant men as depicted in the old Dark Horse Comics?
Dark Nebula
StaffNeomorphNov-17-2024 4:34 PMIt seems that AVPs weren’t canon to begin with, they just existed in their bubbles as crossovers.
To the topic of the Alien TV series, the way I see it, Noah Hawley talked about different ideas for his TV show, and he didn’t find anything from Prometheus and Covenant useful so he stuck to the original 1979 Alien. Folks who dislike the prequels and want them retconned so badly must have read that as him trying to ignore them completely out of the canon.
Aliens Dark Descent didn’t use anything from Prometheus and Covenant from what I remember, and the writers, I think, acknowledged that prequels exist.
I feel like folks online read way too much into things, and twist words around. Even when Fede talked about using practical stuff in Romulus he meant filming practically as much in camera as possible instead of filming people wearing motion capture suits and lots of green screens like in a bunch of Marvel movies. People read that as “No cgi its all practical”, and then when the VFX breakdowns of the film dropped people went “Butttt Fede said noo cgiiii!!!! Wtffff!!!”.
Neomorph
MemberChestbursterNov-18-2024 5:34 AMWould you be equally disappointed if they were the massive bulky elephant men as depicted in the old Dark Horse Comics?
Yes to a lesser degree because they're comics (love them in general but not into/neutral to Aliens comics) but also and I think mainly because the whole point of the space jockey in the first place was to keep you guessing what it was and what happened. The ambiguity surrounding the derelict and its pilot that may or may not have been very old. The mystery and how the film draws you into it is one of the Alien's greatest strengths.
Neomorph
MemberChestbursterNov-18-2024 5:48 AMI feel like folks online read way too much into things, and twist words around. Even when Fede talked about using practical stuff in Romulus he meant filming practically as much in camera as possible instead of filming people wearing motion capture suits and lots of green screens like in a bunch of Marvel movies. People read that as “No cgi its all practical”, and then when the VFX breakdowns of the film dropped people went “Butttt Fede said noo cgiiii!!!! Wtffff!!!”.
Yeah, reminds me of forum discussions about the force awakens (based on what J.J Abrams may have mentioned regarding practical sets) vs the prequel trilogy, the latter being thrashed for "excessive CGI" when apparently, it did in fact use a lot of practical sets and effects as well, whereas the force awakens on the other hand actually used a lot of CGI, as it turned out. People tend to jump to conclusions (and yes I try and sometimes do look myself in the mirror)
Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianNov-23-2024 9:53 AMI never understood this huge emphasis on mystery.
Is it so you can make up your own conclusion for your own headcanon or fanfic ideas? I don't like mystery, this may come from me being heavily into science, history and paleontology where I want to unravel mystery and know the nitty gritty details of well everything!
Back to the elephant man. I was referring if Prometheus used the elephant man Space Jockey instead of the humanoid design.