Your thoughts on Prometheus

LIKE IT BETTER 2nd time around

Took me a week to see it but my hopes had already been dashed long before its UK release. Handsome tosh, a rung or two above the recent 'Thing' film. The ultra-secrecy followed by the splurge of tell-all marketing helps make me wonder if these people have a clue. If this is the best they can come up with after all that money, time, input, hype/secrecy, no wonder they need to lean on gimmicks like 3D. Fassbender was very good but the film whose potential outlines and caverns could be discerned in this forum was miles better.

@Neurion Same with me. I'd never wanna see an Alien homeworld either. I don't think there should be one either. I'd be more happy seeing the Engineer's homeworld, and would want to learn more about the beings in the huge circular craft in the opening of the movie. (if at all they are beings different from the Engineer himself.)

Well I think that the Aliens are bio engineered creatures, bio weapons of mass destruction. The SJ's created them as a part of their bio weapons divisions programmed to cleanse the sentient life forms of any habitable planet so that they can later reach that planet and do whatever they want...

To, me the "Alien" species are "designed" by the "engineers", so there is no alien "homeplanet", just a laboratory where they where designed. As the end of Prometheus, they even have not been "designed", but maybe they were created "by accident". I am even not sure if the tall white muscle-guys seen in Prometheus are the "engineers". I rather believe they are just a very small part of a "unknown extraterrestrian culture" and they seem to be "designed worriors". I dont think life engineers need that muscles. They look like clones to me and are created for a purpose - to win wars and to get orders. So they are like soldiers. We may find out lot more about this "yet unknown culture who made the engineers, the aliens and maybe even mankind" in the sequels. I am only not really sure if Lindelof is the right man for the job. As we learned from LOST he plays with the people by opening doors but behind the door there are even more questions, but no answers. Maybe the audience will play that game for a while - but when you did understand his "storytelling strategy" you will understand that you will never get the answers you hunger for. Lindelof is like a dealer who sells drugz, but they never deliver. Makes you addicted, but never comes a "satisfaction feeling". That was the LOST concept.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him

Absolutely loved it, but with caveats. The first half/two-acts provide such amazing viewing that it makes it all the worse that the last act devolves into a muddled, monster movie. A few of the directorial choices anger me and Rapaci is a weak lead. Still fucking loved it, though. Improved with a second viewing, too. Can't wait to go back for a third after my exams.

Spaceyfreak wrote - "Lindelof is like a dealer who sells drugz, but they never deliver. Makes you addicted, but never comes a "satisfaction feeling". That was the LOST concept." Beautifully put. If he does have a fully-worked-out back-story for all this then P2 will likely just throw a bit more glittering silica in our eyes.

Well I've seen it three times, basically to confirm my original thoughts on it which were: Theme - great. Pacing - way, way too rushed in first half, many poignant shots barely held for a second etc, no chance of building an immersive atmosphere or being given time to absorb/think about what's going on. Script/characters - horribly lowbrow at times and smothers the higher themes. Acting - superb turns by Fassbender AND Rapace; these two save the movie from being a disaster IMO. I think I'm in love with Shaw/Rapace. First 10-15 minutes: Sublime. LOVED the Lawrence of Arabia tie-in, most appropriate for the film/David and one of my childhood fave movies. Editing: OK, here goes ... Clearly the worst edited movie I've ever seen on the big screen. Absolutely butchered. I would expect a bare minimum of 10-15 minutes has been lost but could be 45 minutes easily. Missing scenes are obvious from the point at which the movie dives into a complete mess immediately following the fabulous caesarean scene being interspliced with (and hence ruined by) THAT zombie scene, a hacked Weyland scene and the *excruciatingly* jarring exposition of WMD etc by Janek to Shaw following an apparently missing scene with Janek and Vickers. The movie, in pure filmmaking, narrative/storytelling terms is lost from here ... This is/was a very important movie to me being an Alien nut, hence the multiple revisits to confirm just WTF I was seeing/hearing and I can't tell you how disappointed I am. One can only hope that most/all of what they shot will one day make it into the Bluray as this could be a great movie but it's very, very clear that a large portion of what they shot didn't make it past the editing suite, presumably on orders of the Fox suits who I utterly despise for trashing this ...

I love every minute of it until Janek decides to ram into Juggernaut, and the silly 3-way fight between Shaw, the misunderstood Engineer, and the silly looking prop from MEN IN BLACK 3. I SERIOUSLY THINK SOMEONE OR SOME PEOPLE AT FOX WANTED TO SABOTAGE THIS MOVIE.

I loved this movie. I've seen it twice so far and will probably watch it again. It's entertaining on it's face, but the deeper themes (relationships between creation or creators, ruins after the rise and fall of greatness) are like a puzzle you have to piece together. The tag line of this film should have been, "What if God changed His mind."

You ask "what if god changed his mind". I ask.. What if AUDIENCE changes its mind and does not want to follow Lindelof - the Riddler - miracles and he can watch the sequels on his own as nobody is interested in 2 hours "LOST-SPECULATIONS"?

Does anyone else think the big things have small beginning theme is an in-joke about the whole franchise? I mean, it all started as a jaws in space, b movie, etc but has somehow developed its own mythology and stoked so many debates.?? Personally, loved it. Think we'll see it very differently in years to come.

I was kinda disappointed with it. It was a good movie but a lot of the actual really good plot devices seemed to have been dumbed down for a mainstream audience. The movie should had had a lot more tension like the original Alien. It also had a lot of really unrealistic elements like the scientists exposing themselves to alien bio material ("Ya theres air in here lets open our suits") and just the magnitude of real evidence of alien contact being not that big of a morale dilemma for most of the crew. Forgive me if I am wrong since I'm not sure if at this point humans from earth may have already discovered other lifeforms in space, but if this was first contact it would be huge.

I think the main thing that disapointed was that the movie had a lot of hype and when its also in the shadow of Alien and Blade Runner like the Thing prequel was with the orginal, you have a very high bar to attempt to match. I think some was thinking this movie lacked the Horror/Thriller aspect of Alien, but you have to remember the scenerio was different and people should not have tried to compare the horror elements with Alien but more look at it with Alien 3 or Aliens etc... Because the first encounter was iconic... what i mean is look at the Gore and Death in the Thing 2011 there was a lot, but after you saw the Orginal Thing, then the newer movie does not have the same shock value, yet it has simular kinds of scenes. To me i think the Shaws C-Section was thrilling, not so much to me because i dont scare easy and we saw it in Trailers and discussed it a lot, but to people who never saw or analysed the trailers i think that scene would have been tence and have the effect Ridley wanted... But you just are not going to match the Orginal Chest Buster Scene... from Alien... i mean we seen enough Chest Busters since in all Alien movies and they never have that same effect.... To me i felt the movies plot was great and it needed longer than 2 hours to tell, thus the first hour went by fine, but after Shaw and Holloways intimate scene the rest of the movie seemed to be rushed as if the 2nd hour really needed 2 more hours to tell the story in more depth.... So yes its going to be a disapointment compared to Alien but thats because Alien was a classic film, a rare movie.... Ridley could have done Alien 5 or you could have got the two best directors in the World and a $300 Budget and you would still find it very tough to better Alien..... But if you take the movie on its own merits then its not bad, its actually a good movie with some flaws but the potential is there for Prometheus 2 and 3 etc....

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SEEN THE FILM 3 TIMES ONCE IN 2D, ONCE IN REAL 3D, AND NOW IN IMAX 3D WHICH I RECCOMEMED EVERYBODY TO SEE IT. LUV THE FILM THE MORE I SEE IT THE MORE I LIKED IT

Finally saw it, I was a lil disopointed but still thought it was decent. THe music was weak and didnt match. Not sure why Shaw produced a squid while other ppl were affected other ways. I assume Halloway would have been a zombie like Fifield, but wouldn't Shaw too? What was David's motives for infecting Halloway? It seemed like he knew Shaw would get preggo too? Was Vickers so bitchy cuz she knew the only reason why they were there was to get Weyland to meet an Engineer? THose are my questions I though Vickers was cool and well played by Theron, looked hot too btw. I thought it was spelled out too as to what happened. They had the cases of black goo, got infected and mad dash for the bridge. The ones that died were just piled up like garbage. If thats so what happened on the other ships? Would it not have been contained? The squid was kinda dumb and the Decon looked lame too. I think Scott was just trying to say they created the Aliens too but Im tired of that and Im doing something else thats sorta connected. This will satisify the scifi geeks so throw that scene in. I thought the religious connectoins were pretty obvious too. Shaws Cross, Went out to kill humans 2000 yrs ago because of.......Im ok with that, decent storyline. The sequal should be pretty good.

I LOVED this movie. Finally got to see it yesterday. Much I didn't understand at first, but then coming back and reading some of the great write-ups on the forum helped me a great deal. Ridley Scott does it again. Gives us a movie that gives back so much more. I didn't need to know everything in the theater; just knowing that there was so much more to the movie for me to discover later was enough. But I loved the movie for what it was, and looking forward to (hopefully) sequels and the DVD, to learn more.

Okay, I think that the Engineers didn't like Domitian or maybe how he ran the Roman Empire, because 2013 years before Prometheus he started running the empire, and it would take a while to create a biological monster made to kill all humans. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80s]80's[/url][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/90s]90's[/url] I also have a theory of why they created all of the species. They made the Xenomorphs during a war to kill the other guys. Humans to use as hosts for the Xenos, like the Predators did. Then the Xenos were sent out and started to kill everything, so they made the Predators to exterminate them, but they had to much fun and kept some. Then the Engineers made the black goo, to kill us, but the Predators took DNA, from the Xenomorphs and sabotaged the Engineers.

One more thing, I haven't been to a movie theater since Pulp Fiction. I enjoyed Alien and never cared for those that came after it. I'm thinking of seeing it again as well, there are parts I know I missed that will only better my judgment about the movie. As said above, I thought the movie was really good. I'm not sure why some of the childish or dismissive remarks? I'm 42 and finishing my BS in Computer Science and an IT Engineer.

Wow. I simply cannot believe the negative posts I have read on this forum about the film. Sometimes I wonder if I saw the same movie! We watched A L I E N the day before, and I thought the connections were brilliant. People are entitled to their negative opinions of course, but I hope it doesn't adversely effect another cinematic journey to that beloved universe.

I think that the prometheus film will bring credit back to the alien franchise that was stolen by the predator movies and avp's. Prometheus discredits the avp's because the xenomorphs were created by the black goo david put into dr. Holloways drink, later dr. Holloway and dr. Shaw had sex, impregnating her with a face-hugger type creature wich she has removed by a medical pod and leaves in the pod. Later after a lapse of important events an engineer attacks dr. Shaw in the jetacened pod/survival capsule and the face-hugger type creature implants the xenomorphial ancestor (quoted by Scott) into the engineer. Aftet Dr. Shaw and whats left of david leave to find the engineers homeworld the xenomorphial ancestor breaches the engineers chest. Ending the movie, this also voids the request of many of you to show the xenomorphs homeworld. All the events in prometheus happens in 2088-2092. In the first avp it shows xenomorphs in 2004 A.D. and 2325 b.c. P.S. Movies awesome.

I enjoyed it and am looking forward to seeing it again. Just got here to this board and am enjoying the spirited discussions going on here. Want to see it again this weekend (it's [i]that[/i] kind of movie...one packed with so much detail in design and story that more than one viewing is mandatory to take it all in) and then come back an jump into the discussion(s)... It's great to see Scott back on form again....

I saw it today and enjoyed it. Granted not all of elements of what people wanted to be answered wasn't spoon fed, but raised more questions. I do like the mysterious factors, but would have enjoyed more development of some of the characters and elements. I didn't care for the end. The beginning till the collision was pretty good, if fact really good. I'm more intrigued about the Engineers/Space Jockey species and what may have been thier agenda about the location on LV 223. They are some very poignant and not so discussions and gravitate to those that raise serious questions. Some would rather have this movie spoon fed, the so called "want it now generation", hahaha. I'm cool with this movie and look forward to the next installment. I think the Engineers were the best part of this movie.

I got what i wanted. Everything was...very nice. Stunning production values, great score, (not Goldsmith material but it was fresh and dynamic), good actors..Um..i think it was something of an alternate take of the ALIEN universe. I dont expect to see LV 426 again or why the derelict was found there. Maybe Ridley wanted to leave the classic 1979 ALIEN as a stand alone in the first place. Not spoil a classic. To sum up, not perfect but a very very good thriller. Ridley has done it again!!

I am hooked on this film! Pure art to say the least. Sir Ridley delivered big time. I just wish it had been a bit longer. Seeing (meeting) the SJ for the first time was a mind blowing experience and I wish that scene could have been extended. It ended appropriately (IMHO) though and the thought of visiting the Engineer's home world in a sequels would be amazing. Imagine a world covered in Gigeresque architecture and dominated by these awesome giants. Think of this tiny woman (and an android she can't really trust) confronting them for answers. THAT's what I want to see. It would be a big mistake If Fox decides not to do a sequel. It is MORE than fun to sit back and try to solve the many puzzles RS left us with. Some are easy and just involve pure logic others require this forum and the great fans I've found here. Can't wait to see it again.

Did anyone else see the "fish" that swam into Charlie Holloway's pupil during his metamorphosis? It made me think of the concept in the Tool music video for "Vicarious." Was that correlation coincidental or purposeful? Maybe it was a similar artist who worked on both projects that brought that tie-in to the film or it was a personal style the artist carried along, but as an avid Tool fan it peaked my curiosity.

Let the community know what you think of Prometheus, what are your thoughts? I think this was rushed under executive principles. Mainly profit. the story line is very familar... this sort of thing is what made money for lucas but disgusted the fans in general. Iceberg dead ahead capt'n ! What are your concerns? That this story sounds too familar to a pc game in many sorts. WHat are you looking forward to? Originality .... is that too hard of a request... What would you like to see in the film? A story that does not encapsulate the politics of today.... you got the whole damn universe to tell your story in .. do not narrow it down to political, religion, aethist or scientific debates. gemme me a story that transverses the universe.....

So what I understood of the film was: In the 1st scene, it’s the earth and an engineer left deliberately who sacrificed himself by taking that black stuff. That black stuff breaks the DNA of the engineer dissolves into water so that a new species could be developed. Purpose was to probably develop a range of new species- just like cross breeding that we humans do to develop different breeds of dogs, cats, a good example would be liger (breeding of tiger and lion), engineers strive to do that on a much larger scale- platform was the earth and its environment. Now what happened was, species like crocodile, dinosaurs, etc etc got developed…that was OK…experiment going in the right direction….,until evolution kicked in with species like homo sapiens which ultimately evolved into us..the humans. Engineers didn’t intended to produce a cheap copy of themselves..getting intelligent day by day…doing stuff like going into space, visiting moon, making weapons of mass destructions and so on… (Consider more technology developments till year 2090). Probably they got insecure (?) and decided to end the experiment and prepare/use earth for a second round. They prepared black stuff again which is a biological weapon to end human race and probably develop another species (the so called ‘aliens’) at a much faster rate (so that’s what happened to Prometheus guys). Regarding paintings- probably whenever they visited they left drawings of their planets as evident from planet X (which they’re using to develop that bio weapon as they don’t want to risk their own home planet). The evidence I am talking about is drawings which we see in the chamber which Prometheus guys enter with vessels and a huge sculpture of human head. So one purpose of the paintings could be to deliberately invite humans to that experimental lab planet so that if engineers failed to execute the weapon, humans themselves will come to search answers and will find the black stuff and get infected- ultimately carrying it back on their own to earth. Mr Weyland is dying and he want to achieve immortality. Only way is probably with Engineers who developed us…, so it’s totally worth it…., to go to that planet and search for any solution. Now experiment went wrong, bio weapon got unleashed and killed the engineers themselves, except one who was in the sleeping in another chamber. But as explained earlier, engineers want to end the experiment forgot immortality. So the moment David wakes the last engineer alive, he simply killed everyone and headed towards earth to unleash the weapon. But ultimately failed by us and Prometheus. That’s what I think of, but no doubt movie leaves other thoughts open. Would really appreciate if any of you point out any flaws in my theory..thanks.