Your thoughts on Prometheus
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Let the community know what you think of Prometheus, what are your thoughts? What are your concerns? WHat are you looking forward to? What would you like to see in the film?
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Ripley5October 03, 2012
Being one of the more RARE breed of poster in this forum (I saw A79 in the theater in 79) I must say, there is a much larger than normal challenge in making a sequel or prequel that can satisfy two completely separate generations of fan. Take Tron & Tron Legacy for example... it is rare that a TRUE sequel or prequel is made for a cross generation fan base. But unlike Tron, where there was only one original movie with which to create lore, the Alien franchise has many. Not withstanding, considering who produced Prometheus, I personally felt a necessary prerequisite was paramount to forming an opinion of Prometheus. I completely (and temporarily) disavowed myself from any other Alien movie than A79. Doing this allowed me to avoid some of the pitfalls mentioned in these threads. Prometheus IMHO stands as an exciting new introduction to a very old and admired film. I find it completely fascinating that Ridley has turned us away from the sci-fi thriller of "what's out there?" , and toward a raw anti-science human question of "why are we here?" From our presence in the universe to our purpose in the universe, Scott is a brilliant genius. To get caught up in tiny particulars (especially those gleaned from something other than A79) is to miss the proverbial point. To me... Prometheus is a breath of greasy dark air and I can't wait to see where it leads!
Nostromo74October 12, 2012
Yay!! My first post!! I have to say I'm a big Prometheus fan obviously and I love how it refers to the Alien series but goes off and does it's own thing!!!! I've been watching the 4 disc collectors Blu-ray all week and I came away even further impressed with how this film was made and where it's going!!
Did I.Q.s just drop sharply while I was away??
BritonOctober 17, 2012
Have just watched the "Collectors 4 disc edition (minus the "3D")".
The animated "Prologue" actually explains that the planet where the seeding took place is earth or more specifically "the Isle Of Skye".
Why? Check out the early sequence before the "blessing" of the sacrificial Engineer as depicted on the "Special Features" disc. In the middle distance are two monolithic rock like structures that are pretty close to those depicted in the second "act" of the film (the discovery of the cave painting on Skye).
I was unsure as to the actual planetary body but am now convinced it was an early earth.
Some "bloopers" not mentioned elsewhere:
In the pyramid during an early scene, there appears to be "folding chair" propped up against the cavern wall. Not alien and not belonging to our crew, unless one means the production unit!
Shortly afterwards David is using an extendable ladder to scale a wall revealing a control panel. No suggestion that that piece of equipment was carried in by our trusty crew!
I am disappointed that actual David/Engineer dialogue was not included in the final cut.
No explanation as yet how the small 4 legged creature growing in Shaw, survived the cryogenic and decontamination procedures post removal thence morphing into the many tentacled pre "Deacon" creature.
cellOctober 24, 2012
total different idea here to most but,, i think the engineers are a servant race to the predators, the ship at the start is an early predator ship & they used the engineer to seed a new world to hunt. the engineers in return are secretly making a more advanced type of alien to destroy the predators & to become the masters themselves. but this goes wrong for them & predators take control of the aliens as we see they keep eggs & stuff on their ship in avp1. Also maybe the engineers want to also destroy humanity because 1. they were forced to create us 2. in avp1 we see the predators not only hunting us but also teaching humans how to build etc etc & in return we worship them as gods, engineers are jealous of this & want to be gods.
just a different spin on things, as we know it is all tied together
Indy JohnOctober 24, 2012
All you say may be worthwhile in the joining the Alien/Predator...but all of this happenned after Ridley moved on to other non Alien projects..
In my mind none of the Predator.storylines are needed to tell the story seemingly started by the movie Prometheus.
Making the Prometheus to Alien connection is more of a storyline I would follow(also I would exclude any Blade Runner..connection)
Yes it will be interesting,to see where all of this going ...but I want to know NOW what will happen to David/Shaw..not 2-5 years from now..
Now where is my time travel machine to attend the premier of 'Paradise'!!
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Indy JohnOctober 26, 2012
The where you mentiuon will indeed be of interest.
How much vision will Ridley Scott have after creating worlds on the sceen for several years...
Does he have the desire to keep creating a 'new world'..or rely on his past and somehow tie in Blade Runner...with the Alien World..(forget the Predator)??
My hope he contiues using all availible energy to create a new work(the Engineers; home/story) then part 3 can blend the Alien/BladeRunner/Promethers stories together
I mention Blade Runner because of the Robot/Android/Replicant..thread seems somewhat together..and I think it could be interesting..
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Steward LeslieOctober 29, 2012
Prometheus is the first and currently closest film to depict events i dream. The storyline was well placed and at a pace that I enjoyed. If this is the bar to be set for future sci-fi than a new category must be created.
"for there is no other too compare when one/s maker is adorned with a living stone suit of armor." PFC LESLIE.
wlcinaOctober 30, 2012
1) The space jockey drinking DNA transformer (black goo) was on Earth, and with his sacrifice he gave initial boost to start life on Earth, then a human race was borned, and this can explain 100% DNA comparison (however, not whole DNA string is compared, only some important parts)
(Think about his sacrifice, he knew he will die, would he sacrifice for purpose of killing creatures borned from hir sacrifice?)
2) I believe he drinked that DNA transformer for purpose I mentioned above, and as we can see ship taking off from Earth, I also believe that this "Prometheus" jockey was part of group which wanted to create life on Earth (and other planets also).
3) The same group was visiting Earth multiple times and left the information about the base on LV 233 in pictures (star maps) on different parts on Earth. Why ? - I think they saw that human race does have potential, and hopefully will visit their base in future, (to meet the creators).
(That requires to find and understand clues (maps) they left - and - humans must develop technically to visit their base (invent spaceship, hypersleep etc).
4) Main question is - why they wanted humans to visit LV 233? (after what we saw that jockey started to killing humans with anger)
- one of answer is - there were at least 2 factions of jockeys, lets name them:
creators - which were creating intelligent life
destroyers - the one which wants to rule universe
I also believe, that the LV-233 station was base of creators, (thats why they wanted to be visited by humans)
However, they were attacked by destroyers (they do not like the idea that there are other - technically evolved races (humans), which used another kind of (modified) DNA transformer2 (there were 2 kind of black goo's - first one - which "Prometheus" drunk on Earth, and second one which modifies any DNA to hostile creature (as we saw in movie) both of them had different effect), the creators were killed (piles of dead bodies) by creatures created with this DNA transformer2. The destroyer also infected, or modified (probably all) DNA transformer2 to create hostile creatures (new worms etc). Creatures later on died (by age or hunger ;-) ). One of destroyers (there could be just this one) programs ship to travel to Earth as he planned to erase human kind with DNA Transformer2, but something bad happens and he stays in hypersleep.
5) When humans awake the destroyer jockey, he recognized that creators experiment went successful and he started to eradicate humans asap :D, also he wants to get to Earth and use DNA transformer2 to eradicate human race completely.
Derelict on LV 426 story
thats just my opinion
It could be a creator, which was infected by hostile creature (after attack on their base on LV 233, he fled from LV 233,and after he recognized (the pain or whatever symptoms) that something bad happened to him, started to transmite warning signal and lands on LV 426, from his body alien queen emerges and lays eggs which were found by Nostromo crew. Queen later on died from hunger or age ;-D again, (nothing to eat on LV 426 right ? :D)
The differences between alien species - could be explained that they are based on hosts (as the alien in alien3 (dog/cow) was different from standard - human born aliens
James WeylandOctober 30, 2012
Great Movie about the Transhuman change that is being engineered here on this Planet. How many Peter Weylands are here now looking for a way to extend their own Lives ? We should already have the Space Ships and Colonies so that we could Survive if, Man was destroyed on Earth.
jonnymeranaamOctober 30, 2012
aliens are in its own plant are so scary.fighter team is fight breavly with aliens.space ship is awesome in this movie
Indy JohnNovember 09, 2012
"..destroyers - the one which wants to rule universe.. It makes sense in some cases that if there is a Good Creator,,there must be a Destoyer of the creations,,sort of like if you believe in God,,there must be a devil..
But if there was a Destroyer set of Engineers I just think they would agree to be buried in Juggernaut,,for untold years to see,if maybe, humans developed some sort of stellar travel back to this moon.
I don't think that the Destroyers as yoiu call them would have any patience for ruling the Universe in such a manner.
They would more likely gather together and start kicking Creator's a&% across the solar systems.
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jonny5November 30, 2012
i would like to say the end of the film is really confusing it doesnt really clear up the origin of alien at all its just about there dna really and this movie is not a prequel to predator either only to the aliens films,and since the predator already put aliens on earth how did the engineers get the dna? i think for prometheus to work as a film to have to totally forget that predator exists as part of the alien films completely, well i could be wrong i not claiming to know everything about it but i think they have to bring predator back into the story if they make a second and clear things up,i only thought maybe the engineers and predators had a war like thousands of years ago or something? maybe the engineers created the alien as a biological weapon? who knows, whats does everyone else think?
zzpluralDecember 02, 2012
@Jonny5
Whilst many participants of this forum appreciate the Predator movies for what they are (good old entertaining sic-fi), most consider their involvement in the Alien universe to be an aberration, and something to be brushed under the carpet, with a discreet ah-hem.
Prometheus doesn't explain everything, but it certainly does explain what the alien spaceships were about, and the kind of beast that they found dead in the chair in [i]Alien[/i]. We can look forward to further revelations in the follow-up movie.
Personally, I am very very VERY glad that there are still questions, and the scope of the Alien universe has expanded enormously.
The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent
Indy JohnDecember 05, 2012
I am OK with Prometheus in the Alien Universe.but feel we can get along withn the Predator in this stroryline.
I sort of knew about the Alien connection but never expected for our movie to tie up storylines to exactly match the 'Alien' threads.
After the movie the closing Deacon scene sort of brought home the Alien connection. It just didn't dominate the avtual viewing of the movie.
This site sort of amplified the connection to Alien and the expectation of other sequels.
I have seen the orioginal Alien and Predator movies and enjoyed them both.
The pairing od the teo just seemed sort of grab for money: Two separate movies cobbled together for a money grab
I did watch about 1/2 of an AVP movie and coudn't finish the film, Not becauae of the stroyline which seemed quite lame but the low production values that gave it a cheaper movie-of-week presetation.
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astromaxJune 24, 2013
Did I say that? Boring!!! OK I refuse to give up! We've come this far. We must go on! We have to go on!! Because I'm f*cked up, I am fixated on the Engineer's bridge. Retro: David goes on a solo expedition. He finds the Bridge. No Captain Kirk, but there is a console. No buttons are lit. He presses a few. 1 begins to flicker. David presses it and the chair withdraws from the console. David sits. The chair remains withdrawn. Immediately, a light appears across the bridge and ancient images of Engineers enter the bridge. I'll stop here. I'll continue if there is some interest in this line of thought. I believe this bridge scene is pivotal. No one is present but David and by the smile on his face he is absorbing info that pleases him greatly. That fact, if true, is important. It means something.
LamarukeMarch 08, 2025
Prometheus does something that no other franchise does, in that it opens the series up expanding on the whole cosmic sweep of the promise of a mysterious universe that holds more than we could ever realize.
we now see that the Alien is but a small piece of the puzzle and that the Engineers are an advanced race capable of biological and technological feats that could make them masters of the universe. (Or perhaps, gardeners is a more appropriate term)
Just my opinion, but I feel the Space Jockeys and the Engineers are NOT the same race because the alien derelict and the space jockey within appear to have been there for perhaps a million years or more. This of course, leads to the question; if they are not of the same race, where did the Engineers come from? Are they bioengineered from others stock? (Mankind?)
And of course, we also have to explain why then seemed intent on destroying earth, and what would prompt such a course of action.
In my view, Prometheus is a brilliant first movie in a trilogy that has enormous room to expand on the entire alien franchise, raising it up to potential heights that no other sci-fi franchise has even attempted before.
what the future holds for this franchise we will have to wait and see, but the potential is THERE and we only need someone with a vision to bring us the story that will turn everything on its head and amaze us all.
Love SciFiAugust 15, 2025
Liked the movie, couldn't stand the doctor and her boyfriend. Hope they don't bring her back.
Love SciFiSeptember 04, 2025
The god Prometheus created man and stole fire from the god Zeus. He gave fire to man to make man equal to a god. Zeus severly punished PrometheusrnrnRidley Scott says (paraphrased) ‘The Company's ship, Prometheus, travels light years into deep space as a challange to the gods’.rnrnIn the movie, do you think the fire stolen by Prometheus will be the Aliens knowledge of teraforming or is that too literal? rnrnWas the derelict ship on it's way to punish earth for the events of the Prometheus voyage, and was the company looking for it? .........all priorities recinded!
I wish they would finish the Prometheus storyline already. Didn't like the doctor and her boyfriend. Hope they don't bring her back. She was the reason so many people died. Don't understand David's obsession with her. Want to know what happened to her offspring. There was no one left on the planet to eat so how did it survive?
Love SciFiSeptember 05, 2025
Well, one of the plot features we do know of is a trip to the Alien homeworld! A definite setting most fans are hoping for.
How long do you think it's going to take?
Love SciFiSeptember 05, 2025
Just finished watching Prometheus again. Was almost as good as Aliens. Was David obsessed with Lawrence of Arabia or did he just like the movie? Was Vickers in an unnatural relationship with her father? Hated Shaw and the boyfriend. How did the captain figure out it was a military installation with bioweapons? Sometimes the same scenes are played out in different movies. Why didn't they have subtitles when "the engineers" were talking? Why is it always black goo in any container? That was confusing. Was the instructions written on the wall of the cave? How did David know how to open things and speak their language? Why did the only surviving "engineer" have so much hatred for the people who woke him up?
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