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MemberOvomorph09/8/2011Hello all, Is anyone else really concerned about Fox considering rating this movie PG-13 instead of 18 (R rated, sorry I am English). If they want to tone down this movie then we all may be getting excited for nothing. The movie I believe would not represent Scott's vision of this universe he is trying to create. Imagine trying to tone down the original Alien movie and how lame it would seem. I will always love this Franchise but am really worried about the money people in high places trying to make more money and forget about us die hard fans who want to see this movie in the way that Scott intended us to see it just so teens can go and see it. Maybe they could bring out two adjacent versions at the same time but i dont know of any movie in which they have done that, I am geting worried about this, should I calm down or is anyone else concerned about this?
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Apollo
MemberOvomorph09/9/2011I just can imagine it PG 13 no matter how hard I think about it, Am i just dense or what, imagine if it was the other way around; Harry Potter for example, all the movies were for kids but all of a sudden they decided that the last most exciting one to answer all the questions er.... we will make it R rated. Imagine all the pissed off kids and families. I hope i am getting my point across, this doesnt compute, i just dont understand thats all.
P.S thanks for all the creative replies, some really smart people in this forum oh and also I HATE HARRY POTTER etc.... lol
Richyh
MemberOvomorph09/8/2011I'm sure there have been some movies in recent history that have had two versions shown in the Cinema. One before 'the water shed' (e.g. the PG-13) and one after (e.g. the 18) so audiences can choose which one to go and watch. Obviously, this would mean submitting two cuts to the BBFC and then there's the issue of whether we'd get the 'nastier' (to coin Ridley Scott's own description) version released on DVD and Bluray in the UK afterwards!
Ghost Solitare
MemberOvomorph09/8/2011I'll admit that I'm also concerned. This movie should not be offered next to Transformers 4 and other PULP which is directed at a more Mainstream audience heading out to the local movieplex. The Franchise has been mishandled numerous times already and for Ridley to put the proper spin on it, he should have the artistic freedom to follow those directions that originally made Alien one of the most memorable cinematic experiences of all time.
Mentos
MemberOvomorph09/8/2011The bottom line is that the studios will have the say. Its business, and a PG-13 will in theory make more cash. That's what the studios want. Its not a criticism; I understand they're in it for the money, but it might put the restrains on Prometheus.
I can't imagine it working as a PG-13, I just can't. Not with all the story elements that have been rumoured on this site. It'll need to be an R-rated movie if Ridley really wants to "Scare the living **** out of us".
Ghost Solitare
MemberOvomorph09/8/2011Mentos, I totally agree with you. The studio like the COMPANY has the final say as they are the ones holding the ATM card. Their interests lie in profit, and not critical acclaim, or praise. I am just hoping that they will understand that watered down thrills are just not going to satisfy the fans of the original Alien.
Mentos
MemberOvomorph09/8/2011It is unfortunate, but we can only hope.
There may be a SMALL chance that we get the R-rated.
If we look back to Inception: Inception was Christopher Nolan's personal project. Apparently the studios pretty much left him alone as they knew he'd be back to make the Dark Knight Rises and bring in the 'Big Bucks'.
In the past, Ridley has brought in good business with his other films like Robin Hood (which made double its budget).
We can only hope they leave him to it!
CarterJ
MemberOvomorph09/9/2011I think that Ridley could argue the point to the studio that if he can release it as an R then there SHOULD be enough people who watch it to easily make budget and more importantly successful so a second one can be made. The studio are running a risk of alienating the core fan base and falling flat on their face if its PG-13 rubbish. THEN the opportunity for a second would never come to fruition.
Mentos
MemberOvomorph09/9/2011I agree he should; but I'm not sure it'll work. I hope he has made the film with an R-rating in mind, and not a PG-13 one.
I really want it to have some punch; scenes that hit us really hard like the chestburster did in the original Alien film. I think if the story contains any of the plot rumours (human mutation) that we've seen bouncing around this forum, Prometheus definitely has the potential to display some really nasty imagery.
CarterJ
MemberOvomorph09/9/2011I think we should expect something different added to the whole Alien/Space Jockey universe for definite. Hopefully something shocking/unexpected.
Ghost Solitare
MemberOvomorph09/9/2011Audiences have been waiting three decades just to get a glimpse into the universe behind the first film. Alien's may have revisited that universe but it was not nearly as dark, and foreboding. The sense of the unknown had been removed, there were no questions other than are these people going to get out alive. Alien left you in a dark corner wondering when you'd see that tall sleek darkly armored creature again. In Aliens you saw it, blown to bits, run down beneath an APC, shredded by 50 callibre smartgun rounds, but never with the same, peering around a corner holding your breath suspense. This is the kind of film Ridley Scott can deliver if the studio let's him, no cheap laughs, pointless posturing, or gimmickry. Sheer, undiluted, faintly lit, unforgiving, breathless, terror. Bring it...
Reimer
MemberOvomorph09/28/2011Yes, the rating dispute is a worry. Might the 3D release be PG13, the 2D release R? Has there BEEN a 3D 'R' film in the current gimmick wave? IIRC 'Saturday Night Fever' was recut for a family audience and re-released whilst the original was still playing, such was the level of interest from kids so there's some sort of precedent. But perhaps an even bigger concern is our collective expectations of this film - 'Prometheus' as 'The Phantom Menace'.
EGR101
MemberOvomorph01/12/2012The last R-rated scfi action movie that I remember is MATRIX RELOADED. I couldn't quite see how RELOADED could get R, little F-words, CGI violence, no explicit gore, some tit flashes, and a soft core sex scene. Anyhow, the movie made $290 million in US, and get this: $700 million global!
If you build it, they will come
If you build it well, they will come again
Rakkasan
MemberOvomorph01/12/2012Does it not seem a little hypocritical to say in one senctence how great a director Scott is, and then in the other how a PG-13 rating will ruin the movie or de-value it somehow? I will rely on Scott's genious that if he is "directed" to make a PG-13 cut, then he will be able to do so in such a fashion that we will not even see the difference or care. Afterall some of these posts allude to the possibility that any movie that is not R rated must not be any good. That's just insane.
Frantz
MemberOvomorph01/12/2012And people really think that Ridley Scott is a director that can be influenced ?
I think hes the director with less gore or sex in all the career and still he did awesome movies ...
imagine Bladerunner with a sex scene between deckard and rachel =movie destroyed
imagine a more gruesome death of Dallas in Alien = pathos destroyed
an incest scene between Commodus and the sister = ridicolous movie
like the casual sex they did put in Game of Thrones to appeal the generic ( stupid ) male from 17 to 49 ....atrocious ...it almost ruin a great fiction .
Gavin
MemberTrilobite01/12/2012i agree "love scenes" are never necessary and they just ruin the flow of the narrative.
Starbeast
MemberOvomorph01/12/2012Sir Ridley allegedly wanted a budget of 300 million US dollars - now for that kind of money, damn straight the studio would insist on a PG-13. Fortunately, I believe they met more half way - still a sizeable sum of money but at least allows for the possibility that the studio may be persuaded to release an R-rated cut.
Warning from history: The Terminator was released with an R-rating. Terminator Salvation was released with a PG-13 rating. Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.
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