"Perfect Organism"

Mr.J
MemberOvomorphNovember 08, 20111944 Views24 RepliesSo, here I am, watching "Alien" tonight. So Ash is made and Ripley is asking him, how do we kill this thing? He replies, it's perfect...the company wanted it. So, we can agree the company knew of this specific organism? Thus, sending this rag tag crew to bring it back. I guess we are going to see in the last 8 minutes of how this "Perfect Organism" came into existence or was a failed project of the engineers. I am guessing as well the that crew of the Prometheus would probably see this Organism as there were reports of men dressed in "Alien" attire...sorry guys..just alot of info that there is and it is exciting.
November 13, 2011
Browsing over the points in the discussion I believe several items bear examination. Weyland Yutani would not want any unneccessary press regarding this covert operation. The crew of the Nostromo had longstanding records of misconduct and grievances with the company. As a result it would not be difficult for a corporation to discredit them should any form of arbitration be perpetrated. Ash was more than likely observing the gestation cycle and transmitting results back to the company. He nearly pushes Ripley away when she attempts to see what he's looking at in the scanning electron microscope, and hastily shuts the display off. As he is the one who informs Dallas that he should come to medlab and see Kane, he more than likely also knew that the Embryo had matured significantly, and was awaiting the next stage in it's development. Just prior to the chest bursting sequence he's also watching Kane with a bit more than casual curiousity. In the novelization Ash also sabotages an attempt by the crew to lure the Xenomorph into the airlock and blow it out into space. This demonstrates that he is following Special Order 937 to the letter and doing whatever is neccessary to bring this specimen back alive regardless of it's effect on the rest of the crew.
November 19, 2011
This is the central question to the entire series of movies. How did the company know of the Alien? If that question does not get answered the entire series is meaningless. It is even a more important question, than were did the Alien come from, because that is the entire point of the first movie.
The crew of the Nostromo were probably the most unprepared group of misfits out there. Ripley was the only one compenent one. You had an unsure captain, an overzealous first officer (perfect host), a navigator who just wanted to get home and turns into a nervous wreck, two engineers who only cared about a paycheck and a traitor who knows everything. When you watch Alien again watch the scene were Dallas informs the crew they are "going in", but watch Ash only. Ian Holm plays it brilliantly you can tell just by looking at him that he knows what is going on.
I also contend that there was NO real signal from the ship. I bet you the company planted it in Mother. Special Order 937 stated that the Nostromo was to be rerouted to new coordinates. Mother told Dallas that she picked up a signal, a lie. Then the signal is never heard of again in Alien (after Ripley kind of breaks it down) and is never mentioned in Aliens. Plus the contract specifically stated the crew would lose their shares if they didn't investigate the signal. A perfect set up. In Aliens, when Ripley tells the company that they homed in on its signal, the company lady ignores the comment and makes no mention of it. What does Parker say, this is a commercial ship not a rescue ship, so of course the company set the whole thing up. Someone asked why not send a crew of androids. The answer is because Ash needed to study how the creature hunted and killed its living pray. The Alien most likely would not have concerned itself with Ash since it probably thought of it like another machine, and would not take hostile action unless it attacked. Also, its very doubtful that the facehugger could react to a machine.
The central question is....
How did the company know of the Alien before it sent out the Nostromo?
December 09, 2011
Hi all, new to the group, but certainly not the 'Alien legacy' or it's lore.
There's some great theories and banter being created on this site and I can't express how much I'm looking forward to June!!!
@Rick,
How do we know for sure that (speaking of 'Aliens') Bishop was actually owned/'company' property. I was always under the impression that Bishop was part of the USS Sulaco's crew (or equipment rosta, if you prefer) and therefore 'property' of the military/navy?
Also, how do we know that Weyland-Yutani manufacture their own synths? However adding to that last note, regardless of who manufactured which synth (be it Borgia Industries or whoever) at the end of the day in this 'world' if you like, synths are deemed as property and it's fair to say that a large firm such as 'the company' would have the ability to programme/re-programme a synth (or atleast the financial ability) to request to the supplier/manufacturer that certain perameters be programmed into their purchase before reciept.