The Mysterious Figure?

Think of the space jockey as buffalo bill from the silence of the lambs. He grew his living suits the way he wanted them so he could be something he was not.

It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again lol

That is what that hose is for!

therefore the space jockey isn't the android. thanks for proving my point.

I think everyone is pretty much feeling worried about the central point of this movie - The Space Jockey - I for one am really hacked off that the SJ in Alien, the "fossilised" being they "think" they find in Alien is actually a suit?? Fuck that. What made that scene so cool was that the SJ was so bizzare and..well "alien" for that SJ to be a suit doesnt sit right with me. It is a skeleton, thats the way it was, and that the way it should be. For it to suddenly now after 30 years be a suit, not with punctured ribs, but with punctured ...."suit" sucks ass. Period!

My last comment was a tongue in cheek analogy to get you thinking.

A living being in a biomechanical suit, exoskeleton almost. What we thought was a creature in Alien was actually a suit, with a being we haven't seen before inside. [b]Quote[/b] [i][/i]- I was always amazed that no one asked who the hell the Space Jockey was. He wasn’t even called the Space Jockey. During the film they started to call it the Space Jockey. I don’t know who started that one off. I always thought it was amazing that no one ever asked who he was, and why was he there? What was all that about? I sat thinking about this for a while and thought, well, there’s a story! And the other four [films] missed it! So, here it is. And this one does actually raise all kinds of other questions, because if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first one – I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going? - Quote Mr.Scott That was the only point I was trying to make

if it was an analogy it was poorly thought out like the rest of your posts. no offense.

The "ribs" of the suit could be bio-mechanical - part biology, part mechanical. So whose to say that a facehugger could not use a biomechanical host, extrapolating the biological elements. Is the Alien itself not biomechanical?

an android isn't biomechanical, it's mechanical. you seem to have forgotten that important detail.

Yeah go that route I am sure that will get you far. EDIT: Referring to your style of debate.

An android is mechanical... unless whatever seems to affect everyone affects David by making him either biomechanical or purely biological, then it becomes a possibility. Not a possibility we might like, but a possibility none the less.

Yeah, lets forget about David the android, and wether or not an android can be impregnated. The Space Jockey should be a highly intelligent ORGANISM. Not some tall wimpy being in a bio-mechanical suit. I feel, unfortunately the "mysterious person IS the space Jockey, and he dons a bio suit. He is imregnated and the alien burst out of him, and tears through his bio-suit. This upsets me. I always wanted the SJ's to be like it is in Alien, really bizzare and off the map. I can't put my point across strongly enough that I am so dissapointed that the SJ in Alien is a ................suit.

Yeah I agree. I always liked this concept... [img]http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/314/7/7/space_jockey_ii_by_bloommer-d32jg3r.jpg[/img] And this... [img]http://dougbot.com/forum/pilotEggChamber.jpg[/img]

That figure's head kinda looks like the giant head that they discover in the ampule room... I think a great evil is at work, and the Space Jockeys may be like us. Explorers trying to find a new home. I think the Space Jockey will continue to be a mystery. Anyone remember the sci-fi b-movie "Supernova" by chance? There may be some borrowed elements here in regards to that giant figure!

So the facehugger becomes the true star of alien. A dormant bio-weapon that requires a host orgasm dna, but also has its own custom blend to create one nasty sob. Ashe's words take on a new meaning. Space jokey/Silver surfer grey alien = drone Engineer = something we wont see till next summer

you are talking about him right ? [img]http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3927/baldguy.jpg[/img] can be of course everything ...to me is the same "person" on a weelchair in the sequence with the woman falling on her knees ( and if he have 2 peoples around he must have something strange , maybe an old crew survivor ) ...i find improbable that there are two completely bald guys in the same movie

Thats the one, but look at him in relation to the SJ chair, he is too tall.

Can somebody give us a close up of the big guy. He is definitely in the room and not some kind of figure. I would go along with a humanoid type jockey and suit. We know the jockey succumbs to the chestbuster. It would take some dam decent facehugger to get at that giant. For me the original jockey is in fact one of the crew infected but managing to pilot the ship by getting into the jockey suit and crash landing on lv426 to avoid earth. What an unbelievable ending.

For me Frantz that is what the SJ's look like, that is a space jockey - unfortunately, and for some reason they wear a bio-mechanical, or simply mechanical suit when piloting the craft.......shame. Hope I am wrong. I'm with snorkelbottom - The SJ should be like the designs, a really weird bio-mechanical organism. Looks like its fossilised, man it's grown out of its chair - Dallas's words turned me on. much better than, "man, it looks like some kind of suit that something was inside"....doesn't quite have the same resonance.

That guy's head definitely looks weird. Does he have ears?

Just think if Dallas and Lambert had of had a closer look at the jockey they would have found a human skeleton inside. Maybe Shaw. Hell that's the last thing I would have dream't of for the last 30 years. What a coup. Scott you bloody genius.

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Thanks Scidley that is excellent. That guy has some strange muscular stuff going on.

I have been reading this thread and feel like I have something to say. It makes sense that biomechanisms are an invention of the SJ's, a way to make a living organism with the purpose of a machine. This would allow them to integrate with their technology for perfect communication. I do not think it makes sense for the SJ's to actually BE biomechanical, they use to to create a guidance system for piloting, to make beings/slaves to do their work, and to create a creature as a weapon. Since it makes sense I think it is a better route than just satisfying us with some crazy creature that is the SJ (then we would be disappointed that it didn't make any sense). If Ridley Scott wants to make it humanoid, it will flow with the story AND he will make it really cool, not like other movies that just throw those ideas around.

Great work Scidley - Just by doing that you have thrown new light onto the entire landscape.

I totally agree what Scott will do will have pure purpose and be convincing. The sj world must be credible. His left arm does look boi-mechanical though?

Mutation seams to be a key element of this movie. The SJ in the original Alien was also a mutation of humanoid (SJ) in Scidleys loop?

i think he is maybe a survivor ( like the other mutated "jumping" guy ) or maybe a bot ... i dont see him being a spacejockey ( it would suck btw ) ..to me is the same person on a wheelchair in another sequence the neck to me is part of the suit ..not of the body

Something about him looks CGI to me.

i cant belive people are comparing m night shamalyn to a ridley scott scott film for f**k sake whats the matter with you people, you spend to much time blind speculating next thing you will be comparing fassbenders acting to adam sandler.

now that you mention it... lol.

[b]@Scidley[/b] that's pretty brilliant, good job! Just a thought.. [img]http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g471/muromachi/prometheus-giant.jpg[/img] [img]http://images.castcall.blue-compass.com.s3.amazonaws.com/portfolio/457/457537.jpg[/img] Above is [b]Matthew Rook[/b] as we all know he was penned a while back as the [b]Elder Engineer[/b] on [i]Castingcallpro[/i]. Is it just me or are there siliaritiers between the shape of his head and the shape of the [i]"Giant's"[/i]?

OK.... Here's what I think about the figure in the Jockey Chamber. It is def a humanoid, and maybe twice the size of the human in the spacesuit in the same Chamber during the star map scene. The human in the middle of the round platform is moving it's arm about like directing the star map or something. If you compare the scale of this human in the center of the star map in control of it, and the humanoid when the chair rises, the humanoid is much bigger....looks like it can sit in the chair comfortably. Mutated human or something else... What do you think?

Looks like Matthew Rook good eye mentos. He still looks CGI to me though lol.

i dont think neville page who specialises in creature design has spent months with this film sying he has worked harder on this project than anything else (quotes from the horses mouth) he has worked on to come up with a bald grey skin guy. Get a grip and trust in ridley.

[b]@Biomechanic[/b] thank you sir. I agree, he seems to have a CG glow to his torso.

Compare the head and face of that figure to the guy in the wheelchair at 00:00:43 in the trailer.

the thing that romanced, excited, and scared me in equal measures about the original Alien was just how "alien" Gigers Space Jockey and Derilect craft really were. I totaly bought into the realism of how it looked. This for me reflected just how different a species was if we were to make contact with another lifeform. I am just nervous that Prometheus will destroy the real twisted mystery and bizzarenes and otherworldliness of the Space Jockey. I hope alteredstate is right, as I agree its gonna be a crying shame if the Space Jockeys are Giant versions of humans, and the reason the one in the derilict is so "alien" is beacause it is a fucking suit, or a "mutation".

i think everyone will hate that High Priest ... i hope is our geeks that see too much in that ... its not possible to hold them ....:D