The Mysterious Figure?
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Thadus 12
MemberOvomorphDecember 22, 20114521 Views107 RepliesO.K. the biggest talking point appears to be- what is stood there as the space jockey chair rises up? Is it the engineer? a mutated human? A grey?
Anyone got an fresh ideas?
I for one am very worried after seeing this
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MoleculesDecember 22, 2011
based on all the conjecture so far I'd guess he's a representative of the alien race that sets all the film's events in motion. And based on the recent Scott interviews, it wouldn't surprise me if the character design had been somehow influenced by the popular recurring images of alleged alien sightings and abductions... the grey, or the one whose name I forget that is supposed to be just an unusually tall homo sapiens-esque figure..

GavinDecember 22, 2011
A grey, I hope not.
A mutated human, a lot of people seem to be heading to that conclusion, but personally I hope not.
The Engineer, unsure about that one...
We know the cast lists a few "engineers", but are these engineers that are members of the crew (a la Parker and Brett) or a reference to the Space Jockey's or something else. We don't really know. One thing is for sure, this mystery figure also seems to be present in the same room when the star map is being displayed...

BiomechanicDecember 22, 2011
Wasn't it an engineer and and elder engineer or something. I always thought it was the same thing but different ages. Maybe the mutated guy is playing the engineer and then some other actor or puppeteer fits in a suit to play the elder engineer (space jockey).
walterhillerDecember 22, 2011
i really hope it's just paraeidolia. the space jockey suit looks way too cool for the wearer to end up looking like some tall bald guy.

The High PriestDecember 22, 2011
I for one am really concerend about the space jockey situation. The whole "suit" business concerns me. I dont want an independence day, human dude inside an exo-skeleton suit. I wanted the Jockey from alien to be a skeleton, to be fossilised. I wanted to see the Jockeys, like from Alien, but with Flesh. The whole "grey" human in a suit situation really pisses me off.

MoleculesDecember 22, 2011
@snorkelbottom , can't see the mystery figure anywhere in the star map shot...?

GavinDecember 22, 2011
In the center, behind the star map...
[img]http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/normal_20111219_firstlook2-10.jpg[/img]
walterhillerDecember 22, 2011
agreed, high priest. i hope they look biomechanical, like the alien and the derelict ship itself.

DinosaurRaghhhDecember 22, 2011
I can see the possible mysterious figure, but if you look at the thread 'Space Jockey Secrets' the last picture shows a light source where the mysterious figure is in the other pictures, so it could just be part of the cave, a decoration, a light set up by humans, a projector?? Also if you trace the body it is actually the pattern of the wall that could be an arm; so it is just a head - I can see it, but I think it could very easily be wishful thinking. If the head is the same in the map shot and shot with the chair then he isn't very animated ...........


TheuspromDecember 22, 2011
He's the Jockey/Engineer or whatever else you want to call him.
[img][IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/Evilqtl_2007/Misc/prom.jpg[/IMG][/img]
Remember, what we saw in Alien and to a degree on the table, is a suit/helmet.
You can see by that picture he is huge.
[img][IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/Evilqtl_2007/Misc/engineersizeroom.png[/IMG][/img]

MoleculesDecember 22, 2011
@snorkle
oh... I had just assumed that was one of the astronauts... but you're right! was thinking in 'Alien' mode, i.e. they stumbled upon this thing and accidentally activated it. For some reason my mind's eye had pictured other crew members looking on in the foreground... derp

GavinDecember 22, 2011
I too am a little worried about this "Tall Human" idea, and I agree it does seem that the figure doesn't move much, but from what i recall the footage was panning slowly from left to right... maybe it pans around the room as the star map is displayed, disappears and then as the Space Jockey chair rises into place.
But yeah, this figure is too human for my liking.

JuxtaposeDecember 22, 2011
i remember seeing the trailer for that movie from "M Night Shamalang"...(have no idea of the spelling)...It was called "The Village"..could not wait to go see it!...and then when I did eventually go and see it....the beast werewolf looking monstrosity turned out to be a retard in a f#cking suit!......OMG! i was so disappointed.....i hope Prometheus is not gonna do the same shit!
NeurionDecember 22, 2011
To me...the figure just looks like one of the Prometheus crew. Even the glow emitting from the head area appears to be a helmet lamp. Yes...no...maybe?
~N

MoleculesDecember 22, 2011
I don't understand why many seem so bothered by the notion of the main antagonists being humanoid... I think there is still going to be plenty of room in this movie for all the body-horror elements of 'Alien' that people love, but conceptually it's shaping up to be much more expansive and interesting than anything the franchise-oriented studio hacks could fart out. It's early days and could go in any number of directions - I say bring it on.

GavinDecember 22, 2011
As always time will tell, but Neurion the figure looks too tall to be one of the crew and I don't see the hint of a helmet, which has amber lights inside, and I see no hint of amber on that guys chin and neck.
dahlbckkromeDecember 22, 2011
the guy next to the spacejockey-seat (to the right) at 0:39 is probably the fassbenderfella who later becomes disformed and maybe even turns in to become the spacejockey - MAYBE that is. But it's not to farfetched I think.

JuxtaposeDecember 22, 2011
......im expecting a thought provoking epic masterpiece....but something that is only connected to the alien franchise to the point of reference....u will recognize the chair and the ship and the planet....but that's it...no xeno's ..but some intrigue, a nice plot full of twists. action, drama, suspense and maybe some horror and some nice scares and a bit of blood and gore thrown in for good measure... I'll be happy then....will it be the greatest movie I have ever seen?.....i'm hoping!

GavinDecember 22, 2011
@Theusprom - look again at the two pictures you posted - 1 with the star map and 2 with the Space Jockey seat. Now look at the figure in both, and look at the "curved pillars" that make up the set, the figures head is at the same height... it is one and the same person!
As for being David, who knows, but I do get the vibe of his presence in the mysterious figures stance, if you know what I mean.
walterhillerDecember 22, 2011
fassbender's a droid, how can a facehugger impregnate him? it requires a live host. and if a mutated droid/human's the space jockey...oh man. imagine the outrage from all the fans who have some regard for realism and originality.


GavinDecember 22, 2011
I just said a vibe, I could, and hope i am wrong. But ironically BM could be right - some form of biomechanics from whatever is in the urns - David is the only confirmed non-human, so whatever is infected everyone affects him differently. Yes, I know, Pinnochio, but wasn't that a running theme in Bladerunner...
The more and more I try to piece together all of this, the more and more I begin to worry.
walterhillerDecember 22, 2011
grey goo is nanomachines. again, i'm talking about the scene from alien where they discover the space jockey with a burst chest cavity. and do you remember what they said about the facehugger? it keeps its host alive by supply air, clearly it requires a living organism. therefore the space jockey cannot be a droid. if anything, it has to be at the very least, a human. but hopefully not, because that would cheapen the story and make it resemble something by m night shyamalan on a bad day.
why do you people not seem to remember details from alien? the last time i saw it was like a decade ago.

BiomechanicDecember 22, 2011
It could be both biological and mechanical. Some of us already are a bit of that. Take that to the microscopic level little cellular robots building structures out of proteins and manipulating the chemicals and elements it has available to it or that it can acquire. It's not that far fetched.
DenissDecember 22, 2011
I don't understand why is it a problem for a Jockey to be from humans? Alien is also part human. Remember: if Alien comes out of a dog - it resembles a dog more. Maybe the space jockey is the "alien" but from another more profound host... I see no trouble with that.
walterhillerDecember 22, 2011
so you're saying the facehugger operates on both the organic and inorganic? then why go after humans? why not latch onto a piece of machinery?

BiomechanicDecember 22, 2011
It looked like it may have gone after the machinery on the derelict in some scenes but it did not have much available. Maybe that is why they kept a laser over it to keep the termites out of the ship. Maybe it can do more with biological life and faster. If your going to terraform a planet you might have to have some kind of intelligent microscopic builders. I think the technology can rearranging atom the string level even. Engineering space itself.

TheuspromDecember 22, 2011
[quote]@Theusprom - look again at the two pictures you posted - 1 with the star map and 2 with the Space Jockey seat. Now look at the figure in both, and look at the "curved pillars" that make up the set, the figures head is at the same height... it is one and the same person!
As for being David, who knows, but I do get the vibe of his presence in the mysterious figures stance, if you know what I mean.[/quote]
Lol, I know it's the same person, it was done to show the scale of jockey to human.
That figure on the right isn't human, far too tall.
Have you seen the guy playing the Engineer?
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Mekja-TekDecember 22, 2011
I must say the figure gives me pause, but earlier in trailer are they scanning a skull or a helmet. Seeing the figure from distance, I don't detect the signature bio-mech features from the chair. So the xeno/weapon must be a construct of the figure or a pet aquired through its stellar journeys. I'm just thinking out load, but I still can't shake my concerns. Only time will tell...
walterhillerDecember 22, 2011
i know what you're saying, but you're still not addressing the inconsistency i brought up. why did the space jockey in alien have a burst chest cavity? obviously it means an alien came out. and an alien can only be produced inside the tissue of a living organism, as was evident in the scene where they looked at scans of kane's body and the facehugger.
therefore, the space jockey cannot be a robot. it must be a live thing.

GavinDecember 22, 2011
1. The goo has not been confirmed to be anything but goo. In fact it looks as though it is whatever is in the goo that is of importance.
2. No-one is saying that the mystery figure is David, we are all just throwing every theory we can around in our excitement, to try and figure out what it is we are seeing. The likelyhood is small, but not improbable - If the jockey's could make life out of nothing then surely they could do the same from an android, making him no longer an android. Yes, that smells of pinochio, so I hope I'm wrong.
3. I think its safe to say that we all know our stuff regards the ins and outs of the Alien, otherwise we wouldn't be here now would we.
4. Why not join in the debates, and the theories. Needless sarcasm and hostility is just that... needless.

TheuspromDecember 22, 2011
[quote]i know what you're saying, but you're still not addressing the inconsistency i brought up. why did the space jockey in alien have a burst chest cavity? obviously it means an alien came out. and an alien can only be produced inside the tissue of a living organism, as was evident in the scene where they looked at scans of kane's body and the facehugger.
therefore, the space jockey cannot be a robot. it must be a live thing.[/quote]
Yeah, in a suit.




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