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The Derelict ship is NOT a weapon, nor is the Xeno

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ArchEtech

MemberOvomorph12/30/2011
It could be that the derelict ship was some kind of a bomber to unlease the Xeno on humans, but doesn't that seem daft too? Are Xeno really a superior life form? I would say not. They can't travel through space. They are not as smart as humans. They don't use guns, or weapons. They are not perfect, and have weaknesses. Lets face it, what is a Xeno going to do against an F-16, and obviously in the future we'd have something more deadly? Xenomorph Bugs could not wipe out humans. It would be one nasty pest to be sure. It would kill, could kill a significant part of the popluation. Xeno's are not worse than a lot of disease to be honest, nor more efficient killers. Hand to hand we don't have a chance obviously, but "they bleed, and we can kill them". And let us not forget Ripley did just fine with the loader robot against a queen (regardless if the "queen" was part of Ridley's original lifecycle concept or not). I mean you can kill a Xeno with a couple clips of well placed .45 ACP. It stands to reason that the Xeno creature is NOT the weapon, whatever created it could be. There are a lot of worse things that could come out of techology like this. Mutations of some kind of bio-mech-nano-DNA-goop can have all sorts of possibilities. Evolution over time has had very strange results on earth. Random, speed up evolution would be way more unpredictable. Much worse than a humanoid Xeno-reptile thing as nasty as it is. There are a lot of more disurbing things in Geigers art than the Xeno alien anyway, and way darker roads to go with bio-mech-DNA-Goop. Hell being genetically fused to a chair and spaceship into a collective being is more disturbing to me. Some kind of bio-mech planet seeding or destroying virus goop is much more more sinister, disturbing, and more efficient. What if the stuff turned an entire planet an all its life into one bio-mechanical living organism. Disturbing!
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Frantz

MemberOvomorph12/30/2011
get a break !!! 4 new threads in 10 minutes !!!

Zues

MemberOvomorph12/30/2011
Archetech, FYI I have the 6 disc Blu-ray Alien Anthology and it just happens that I was watching Alien 1 last night (again) with the Ridley Scott commentary. Following are his exact words as Dallas and his 2 crew members enter the Space Jockey chamber; I always wanted to go back and make an Alien V or VI where we find out where they come from and we go there and answer the question "Who are they?" Mars is to close so they can't be gods of war. But the theory was, in my head, was this was an aircraft carrier, a battlewagon of a civilisation and the eggs were cargo, which were essentially weapons. Sort of like a large form of bacteriological stoke. Biomechanoid warfare. The Space Jockey, I've always thought was the driver of the craft who is now after many ages. But clearly from here, this is where the transmission would emanate from, probably in an automatic transmission. So this creature, obviously, had experienced maybe one of the eggs had been disturbed and creature had got out and had attacked the rest of the crew. Don't ask me where they got to. But he's pretty gruesome. But let's say he was part of the civilization he came from and now melded into his seat.
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ArchEtech

MemberOvomorph12/30/2011
But that still doesn't imply that there isn't something worse than a lizard Xeno thing. Maybe the real question is WTF the actual weapon is, does, or was originally intended to deliver. Obviously the ship had a purpose, but what we humans view as a weapon, may not be viewed as a weapon by those who created it. In either case, it wouldn't be very effective as a weapon concept in as much as we know right now, which may be where the dark side of Prometheus takes us.

danrald

MemberOvomorph12/30/2011
Ash said it best.. It's perfect .. indestructible...

artyoh

MemberOvomorph12/30/2011
[quote]But that still doesn't imply that there isn't something worse than a lizard Xeno thing. Maybe the real question is WTF the actual weapon is, does, or was originally intended to deliver. Obviously the ship had a purpose, but what we humans view as a weapon, may not be viewed as a weapon by those who created it. In either case, it wouldn't be very effective as a weapon concept in as much as we know right now, which may be where the dark side of Prometheus takes us.[/quote] What's more dangerous, a ruthlessly merciless bioweapon, or the designer/collector who creates/exploits it.....along with perhaps, a host of others?

b5historyman

MemberOvomorph12/30/2011
Scott's concept of the SJ ship was it was some kind of "bomber" is a good one. I actually thought a bit further along the lines that the ship was part of a "terraforming" mission. Drop the eggs into the population of a planet and wait for the native civilisation to be wiped out. Then the SJ race could move in.

ArchEtech

MemberOvomorph12/31/2011
But again the Alien Xeno would not wipe out the earth. No way. But something worse could. Maybe in 20AD they would, perhaps even in the 1700's but not in our current time, and definitely not in the future. There is something much worse... A little thing that's a big thing...

centaurian_slug

MemberOvomorph12/31/2011
@ArchEtech consider how efficiently energy is used. modern technology just channels fossil-fuels - It isnt really more advanced than nature - it only functions because it can use Oil about 1,000,000 times faster than it forms (e.g. 100's of millions of years of oil formation to power modern technology for 100 years). The biological weapon might, joule for joule, simply be more efficient than any mechanical tech. Read up on peak oil - many think all our modern technology won't be viable once this "energy lottery win" runs out. Some say we are literally going back to the stone age, we'll be unable to use metals etc. biotech - working the way nature does, recycling materials, could outperform mechanical oil fueled tech. you're right that something at the cellular level would make more sense, but i'll allow them some artistic license for such an amazingly effective film :)
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