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Prometheus is a prequel..please dont argue otherwise

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Jeystone

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I mean come on...you have the derelict, LV 426...it is set before Alien..it describes the origins of the jockeys...and it's still not meant to be a prequel? Why? because there is no xenomorph? please, you would need a much bigger reason than that This is a prequel and anyone that argues otherwise I think has a rather low IQ..the kind of people who argue about what genre a song is, when it is completely irrelevant.."That's not dubstep man it's dubstep-electro"...please
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Frantz
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we cant be 100% sure that what we see will be related to Alien ...or are just the same tools , the same universe .... Probably ...at 90% ..is a sort of prequel ...but they always insisted its not . what if at the end the derelict explode ? you will kill yourself in the theatre ? because the derelict and what there is inside is the only possible link to the Alien story ... of course they are both in the same universe .
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It's pretty much been established that the events that take place in "prometheus" occurs before Alien, ....it is also set in the same universe....it's like a spin - off....not part of the alien franchise...at the same time it almost kinda is....but not officially. It's an almost kinda prequel....but not quite a full blooded prequel...if that makes any sense....I try my best to explain...but apparently i have a rather low IQ..;)
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Gavin
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Prometheus is NOT a prequel, per se. It is a... the best phrase seems to be "spin off".

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Juxtapose
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It's not even worth debating this little issue until we actually see the movie!
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I guess they just didn't care to call this something like 'ALIEN:ORIGINS'. Even if the links are tenuous, I'm happy enough that this is definately a true 'prequel' to the original movie (and it's sequels) in every sense of the word...even if the makers seem to be trying to distance it from some of the original subject matter a little. 'Derelict'-style craft, check. 'Spacejocky'-style seat, check. That'll do for me, even if we end up seeing nothing like the 'xenomorph'-style alien in this, after all.
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"Prometheus" will have it's own life, yet share a little bit of that with Alien...of course, we will not know until it comes out and over the course of the months as the date draws closer, see more trailers but for now..speculate...theories and hope is all we have.
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The Alien creature only came along because they ventured into the derelict ship. So what people need to do is stop at the point before Kane gets slapped in the face by the hugger and LOOK at everything before that Thats what this film will be about - How the Jockeys, the eggs, the urns, the spacecraft, mankind loads of things came along. I know my idea is a little flawed but i think people are getting my point???
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Juxtapose
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One thing I am almost certain of....it will explain were the creature from alien came from and why it ever came into existence......that alone is enough for me!
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Frantz
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i agree ...a movie cannot evolve into "pretty solid alien DNA" without the alien itself
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@ Frantz Yeah...but will we even see the alien?.....that one will only be revealed once we see the movie....plus i am expecting it to look a bit (or a lot) different to the Xeno's we all know.
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Gavin
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Sorry to correct you Frantz but Ridley keeps saying "strands of Alien DNA" not "pretty solid Alien DNA". Which in all honestly could support the possibility of the link between Prometheus and Alien being the Space Jockey's and the Space Jockey's only. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying I wouldn't want to see an Xenomorph in Prometheus, but if there was one wouldn't that make this an Alien film, not something separate as Ridley states it is. Regardless, and for the sake of sake, if there was a Xenomorph in Prometheus IMO it would be the one born from the Space Jockey pilot of the Derelict (please no-one mention a Queen, it makes no sense). I don't think we are going to see the Xenomorph's genesis in Prometheus, because IMO that would ruin the mystery of the creature and definitely make this an Alien film, which it is not meant to be. Remember Damon whatshisname said "...if we did a sequel to Prometheus, it wouldn't be Alien.".

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If Prometheus want's to not be a disastrous flop then it is gonna have to function as a stand alone movie....I am confidant that it will...so anyone...even those whom are not familiar with the Alien franchise can appreciate it...including a xeno won't really hurt the plot or movie...those not familiar will go...oooh, cool scary creature....those like us who basically worship the franchise (or at least part of it)...will go...OMG....it's a Xeno!!!!!! Having a plot with a huge and epic scope that mainly focuses on our origins is kinda refreshing...(Actually not even...this is a whole new movie...a separate idea) ....if the xeno's appear....it will be a cool cameo IMO....but I am to scared to anticipate anything.
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I think it's really an issue of splitting hairs. It's not a prequel in the sense that it does not utilize the characters from the previous films, or explain their origins - a prequel, like a sequel, directly relates to the work it preceeds or succeeds in terms of plot and character development. To be the most 'fair,' and to not mislead less-informed folks who will see this thinking it's a direct prequel, it is a movie set in the Alien universe that takes place before the events of Alien. Much in the same fashion that, say, an author like H.P. Lovecraft utilized the same mythos for each of his stories, but never made their plots run into one another. Prometheus isn't intended to be a book-end for the 'Ridley' saga, and thus is not a prequel in the strictest sense.
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Gavin
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@ Manndroid - good way of putting it.

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Here we go again...... The inspiration to Scott was to tell the story of the being[b] from[/b] ALIEN It has the same type of ship [b]from[/b] ALIEN (Derelict) It has the same type of SJ Chair[b] from[/b] ALIEN It has the same Gigerish designs of tunnels[b] from[/b] ALIEN It has the same company[b] from[/b] ALIEN (yes I know Yutani hasn't joined yet) The teaser is designed like the ALIEN trailer. The logo comes on the screen like the ALIEN trailer. It is set approx 50 years before ALIEN. So can someone please define what a prequel is? Is it a prequel only if it has the ALIEN in it? Is it a prequel if it only tells the story of the Space Jockeys? Is it a prequel because it is set before ALIEN, but has all the elements from the ALIEN universe in it and tells the story of one of those elements? For me it's obviously a prequel,a prequel that explains the origins of certain creatures from ALIEN.
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the fact that tell us what the SJs are is not enough to define it a prequel ..more a spin off ...but i think it will evolve in a quite solid prequel of some sort ..maybe ...maybe not
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Spin Off, is probably the best way of putting it, until we know 100% with hard evidence that the Xenomorph is in it, then we can call it a prequel. But, we know that some won't do that.

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[quote]@ Snorkle Spin Off, is probably the best way of putting it, until we know 100% with hard evidence that the Xenomorph is in it, then we can call it a prequel. But, we know that some won't do that. [/quote] Even if the Xeno is in it, but the story doesn't lead to ALIEN, is it a prequel or a spin off?
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Gavin
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@ Theusprom - IMO, no. Good point, but some would argue otherwise.

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Frantz
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i think we should call it a prequel if it set the "stage" for Alien to happen

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