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Sulaco
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012If the latest pics of the SJs (as statues) proves not to be fake, then I'll be somewhat disappointed! I'm starting to think Lucas - Phantam Menace (we all know he should have left well alone).
As it's only early days and I still have faith in the Ridler, I'm trying to make excuses for that pic.
In an interview that Ridley did:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LeIce4lc8s
he mentions that there's two versions of Prometheus being shot - for different age ratings (13 & 18).
Perhaps the skeletal monstrocities are explained away as suits in the 13 rating - whereas in the 18 rating they are the aliens we have come to expect?
Just a thought....
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Juxtapose
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012I also read that their will be 2 versions.....but I seriously doubt that they will go as far as actually changing the story....IMO the only difference will be that their will be more violence, sex and perhaps a few disturbing happenings in the R rated version....in other words...it will simply be the uncut version .....assuming they do even end up even making 2 versions?

Apollo
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012I have to agree with Juxtapose on that one. Just two cuts of the same movie to suit different audiences. I am against the whole thing being 13 rated to appeal more to the younger audience......... they have twilight and all that crap... GIVE US WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING AND HAVE WAITED SO MANY YEARS FOR!!!

Gavin
MemberTrilobite01/18/2012The impression I got from the footage at last years comic-con is that Ridley himself is also not too keen on a pg13 rating.
My suspicion is that he will cut the film as an R/18 film and then remove the more gory/adult themed elements for a pg13/12a version of the film. But I think Ridley will cut them so that the R/18 version will be so superior to the pg13/12a version that Fox, hopefully, will retract the pg13/12a version.
The only two things that go against my suspicion are the fact its been shot in 3D and AVP. AVP was pushed to be PG13 to pull in greater audience numbers, as is the current trend with 3D films.

Apollo
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012I agree Snorkelbottom. Question........ can anyone remember the last time a movie had two cuts/ versions lets say and was released at the cinemas??? i dont remember but maybe i am just being ignorant. I know movies may be released as a 15 rating (i am english|) and then an uncut release to an 18 version on DVD , if that is the case... i do not want to see a childs version then have to wait for the real adult version to come to DVD. I still cannot get my head behind this thinking. Trust me, kids and teens will not even want to see the cut version. As a kid what appealed to me most about Alien when i was 7 and i wanted to see it was that it was so adult, it was almost forbidden. Tell a kid that he is not allowed to do something or in this case not be able to see the adult version then they will just start sneaking in to the cinemas and downloading the real version. It just doesnt make sense to me. All those moneybags in holywood trying to capitalise and fill their wallets as they just see statistics not what people want.

db73
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012This idea of making two versions to achieve different ratings is ludicrous! Either it's a sci-fi/horror or it isn't. Make your mind up, Ridley.

Apollo
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012I dont think it is Ripley thinking of doing this, more so the studios trying to appeal to different ages, basically...... more moneu more honey. But i think they are biting their noses of to spite their faces and that this idea will backfire, lets see.

db73
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012[b]"I dont think it is Ripley thinking of doing this, more so the studios trying to appeal to different ages, basically...... more moneu more honey"[/b]
I really can't see Ridley going for that. It would be his way or the high way surely? I can't see him making compromises for the studio. But who knows?!

Apollo
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012Exactly who knows, thats the problem, if ridley doesnt know yet then who does lol. Trust me the days of studios making movies for the right reasons are gone. For years they cared about making good movies to compete with other studios but now they just care about making more money, hence why for years they have just spewed out pure crap in some cases just to make a quick buck, for example all this comic book movie craze is them all just jumping on the bandwagon e.g Spiderman , Batman (actually pretty good to be fair), the incredible hulk etc.... all came out made a profit, wait a few years lets re release it and put a different spin on it, again making money. Its the world we live in , i know everyone knows this but trust me what they say goes, they pull the strings and ridley must go along, you know he has a contract to follow and really i doubt he would be able to just walk and start again with another studio so no, ridley cannot do a thing. Its the same in football/soccer for example the manager makes sure to try and organise the team and get results, but it is all the directors above and the chairman who pulls the strings, money. signings, sponsorship etc... that is the situation Ridley is in.

Mentos
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012[b]@Snorklebottom[/b] I really hope so. If Ridley has created the film around an [b]R-Rated [/b] frame work, then a [b]PG-13[/b] cut should maintain some of the gritty elements, only omitting bits of violence and gore.
Conversely if Ridley has sculpted Prometheus over a [b]PG-13[/b] skeleton...we're fucked; It'll be a watered down blockbuster.
[b]@Apollo[/b], its not a horror but I recall [b]Bruno[/b] being released to the cinema in two cuts.
[b]*EDIT*[/b]
I think it will be a PG-13 rated film. I've just re-watched the comic-con footage and listened a little carefully to what Lindelof says. He says ask Ridley [i]"Will the PG-13 rating on this movie inhibit you from telling the story that you want to tell?[/i]
Lindelof basically wrote the second script right? Or made amendments to the first, creating the second draft. They must have known which rating / which audience they were aiming the film at during the writing process. And I know in the interview afterwards Ridley claims he'll watch the final cut with Fox to decide upon the rating. But I think we'll see at [b]PG-13[/b] version at the cinema.

Apollo
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012Bruno in 2 cuts, i stand corrected Mentos. God i hope it is not PG13. That would be a nightmare of epic proportions lol, well..... a watered down nightmare.

Juxtapose
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012Now my question is, can anyone here think of a dark and disturbing movie with a PG 13 rating?.....was all the Alien movies PG 13?....(I should know this...but I don't)
I hope not all the nasty stuff is inferred ....Imagination can be a powerful thing...but seriously....I wanne actually see some stuff as well..!

Xenophobe
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012I know this is a tad off on a tangent, but how many years before Alien is Prometheus meant to be set?? I forgot!

jujutsuka
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012Lyle, 30ish years. Or millions if we get hijacked with some of Damon Lindelof's "Lost-esque" time travel BS.
Fall down seven times, get up eight.

Starbeast
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012If it ends up PG-13, then why stop there? I will personally be insisting there is a musical version so I can sing-along to the horror and gore. And I want Ridley to get his ass on top of that Derelict and sing out the frickin' chorus.

Membrane
MemberFacehugger01/18/2012Starbeast... with Nathan Lane as the 'alien'! :-)
Haujobb - Membrane / Acretongue Remix

Frantz
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012Sulaco the skeletal monstrosities are from a fake plot .... i point that not to become tedious but because someone can take them as true and we will have another 200 posts with skeletal monstrosities inside .
returning to the plot of course a PG13 and an R can have only some scenes of difference ... a sex scene can be a bit longer ( well , not in a ridley movie ) ...a death scene can be a bit more longer ...there can be an extra of a woman dressing with tits out ...or there can be something creepy showed for more time ....just that i think .

danrald
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012Well if they have Nathan Lane as the 'alien', which in my opinion is a bullseye.. It wouldn't really surprise me if that have Robin Williams as one of the Space Jockeys.. just a thought.

Sulaco
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012@ Frantz
Point taken on the fake plot, but am I correct in thinking the SJs are in suits? The whole notion of suits doesn't make any sense unless of course what's inside is even more of an abomination. We know Ripley's using animatronics for the SJs when suited so what's in store when they're unsuited and what do they look like? I don't think it's the big blue guy we've seen - for my money he's from the ship over the waterfall. Also I don't think Ridley would give such an important role to Matthew Rook.
There would be no point in having an unsuited SJ unless it's for communication and then you're going to need an actor for that. Ok so Guy Pearce is unaccounted for but I doubt he's an unsuited SJ.

bigbirdjimmy
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012@ starbeast
LOL get the cast of Glee.
This movie needs to be rated R. If kids want to see this movie, they will get to see it somehow. I think there are much worse things kids see nowadays. I am not saying it is right for them to see it if it were rated R. The way TV is now and complete acess to the internet, a movie will not be that bad. Its a bad example but Titanic was rated PG-13 and it had nudity? go figure. Let me know what you all think.

Mentos
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012Haha [b]@Starbeast[/b] I'm up for a musical version! [b]@Apollo[/b] I think it depends how they execute it to be honest, I think time travel [i]could[/i] work in some instances.

jujutsuka
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012Alien/Prometheus Christmas Special, anyone? I mean, the Star Wars version was a staggering success, after all.
Fall down seven times, get up eight.

Frantz
MemberOvomorph01/18/2012first , Sulaco welcome aboard this forum ...
I think we are starting to agree that are suits ...inside there is an abomination or a human shape ? We all fear is a human shape but we will see ( lets not forget that many Giger works are with very human shapes , and are quite "scary" anyway )
Regarding Guy Pearce we think to have saw him in a frame ( in the first or second preview of the trailer ) and he was in suit ... 80% sure hes him but we will see
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