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MemberOvomorph01/19/2012Spare me please if this was already talked about here but...
I found an interesting post about the works of "Prometheus" filming crew in Iceland. There is even a picture of the "barracks" on location. The link is:
http://www.scriptflags.com/2011/07/ridley-scott-talks-prometheus-hr-giger.html
It seems there were two main shoots in two locations: one at the base of the volcano Hekla, the other at the Dettifoss waterfall. The Dettifoss is unanbigously the shoot where we can see the great disk hovering above a waterfall in the trailler. The Hekla shoot must be that one of the vehicles running to the ship _ but maybe also the final one where we can see the derelict falling.
What I found interesting is this:
"The shoot, which is scheduled to last roughly 2 weeks includes actors Charlize Theron, Michael Fessbender, Guy Pearce & Noomi Rapace. A second location for the production is the Dettifoss waterfall [Europe’s most powerful.]"
The problem is, the post also talks about a primeval Earth. If the main actors were forced to travel there to be filmed, can we imply a time-travel plot?
The alternative is, for economic reasons, Scott filmed two shots in Iceland: one, of the primeval Earth, and another, of the alien planet.
Nothing really obliges Scott to keep a "coherence" or "sense of unity" between locations and the movie plot, but I keep thinking that Icelandic locations have some kind of relatedness that would make difficult to separate them...maybe I´m seeing too much here...
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Biomechanic
MemberOvomorph01/19/2012"The alternative is, for economic reasons, Scott filmed two shots in Iceland: one, of the primeval Earth, and another, of the alien planet."
I think what you said there is correct. I bet it was mainly used for the shot of them running from the crashing ship, that would require a rather large real outdoor set of "rock lava base".
jujutsuka
MemberOvomorph01/19/2012I presume, like what Biomechanic said, that they were merely filming in those locations with those actors because it was the most efficient use of time and resources.
And also because I abhor the idea of time travel being used in this film.
Fall down seven times, get up eight.
Juxtapose
MemberOvomorph01/19/2012I was curious when I saw a comic con vid of ridley explaining that he was in Iceland to film the beginning of Prometheus....think he called that part...."the beginning of time".....but if it is truly the beginning of time....then why does he have a cast members on the shoot....For instance....Noomi joined him while he was in iceland....she was their with him in Iceland?.....but this scene is suppose to happen before the dawn of mankind....must say I am a bit confused?
jujutsuka
MemberOvomorph01/19/2012Maybe there's some biological interface on the ship that a crewmember winds up interacting with, and this interface imparts SJ history.
Think of Leeloo from the Fifth Element watching that photo stream where she learns about human history.
Fall down seven times, get up eight.
Juxtapose
MemberOvomorph01/19/2012eah but she does not have to be in iceland to learn or interact....she's not even born yet...so i think their will be time travel......I am not fond of that idea.....time travel has the ability to truly fuck up a plot!
SoX2000
MemberOvomorph01/19/2012Juxtapose, she does if you want to film her with those surroundings. I think what Jones is saying is, in the film she's on/in a ship/cave/room and she activates something that shows her some history from way back in time that is shot in Iceland. If you want Shaw to appear to be looking at this projection then you'd have to physically shoot her in those surroundings. Or green screen, but I think Ridley is better than that, he wouldn't green screen if the budget would allow him not to.
But I agree with BioMechanic, she was probably there to film the running from the crashing ship.
reffugee
MemberOvomorph01/19/2012I'm surprised no one has mentioned the first shot from the trailer, where the spaceship is approaching what at first glance looks like a planet, but looks more like some sort of worm hole to me. ?
SoX2000
MemberOvomorph01/19/2012@reffugee I'm convinced that's a planet. Maybe I'm wrong but I'll put my bet on it's a planet/moon.
reffugee
MemberOvomorph01/19/2012whatever it is, it looks kinda flat like a disc and not a sphere, and clouds look like they are all coming out of the center of it.
centaurian_slug
MemberOvomorph01/19/2012i also hope there is no time travel. if they appear on set, perhaps its another earth-like world with familiar features.
I'd be okay with time dilation effects though !
have we ever seen that implied in a scifi?
deadcell
MemberOvomorph01/19/2012please, no time travel. a good flashback would be nice, but the timetravel thing is a bit overused. extradimensional is kind of new, just as long as its done right
TetraDeco
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012WARNING SPOILER!!
Warning!
There's a plot synopsis floating around that seems to follow what has already been revealed in screenshots and director/actor comments where the plot features time-travel.
According to this synopsis, the Prometheus ship goes through a wormhole and ends up on primordial earth and witnesses the Engineers manipulating our past.
This detailed plot synopsis would seem completely bogus for just this odd piece. However, the puzzle pile of clues fit together with revealed character names and some screenshots.
Overall, the story is amazing, except for this "Time-travel" thing.
I can suspend disbelief for so many of its Sci-Fi tropes.. But time travel is much too far of a stretch for me when presented as a major plot point. I mean, faster-than-light travel is bending time, but somehow more plausible to me for some silly reason.. So it's a legitimate concern because the lead writer, Damon Lindelof, has already penned several major time travel focused scripts already - Lost and Star Trek! I can't imagine a proven writer repeating himself again and again. Hopefully this plot was a very early draft and not representing the finished story as filmed.
Gavin
MemberTrilobite01/21/2012TIME TRAVEL, why would time travel be in Prometheus. The only reason such a lame idea would be used would be to explain that the Derelict has been there for millions of years, and to explain the fossilization of the SJ. But the SJ isn't fossilized its a SUIT (Ridleys words not mine) and I see no evidence whatsoever that Prometheus will feature time travel.
TetraDeco
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012
Spoiler:
A flashback scene to primordial Earth is cool. Having the characters witnessing the event firsthand, is a bit silly.
Guest
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012If you have faster than light space travel then you inadvertently have time travel. If you don't have a problem with FTL, then you shouldn't have a problem with time travel. Ironically, in physics, time travel seems to have more proponents than FTL.
Starbeast
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012If you have faster than light space travel then you inadvertently have time travel. If you don't have a problem with FTL, then you shouldn't have a problem with time travel. Ironically, in physics, time travel seems to have more proponents than FTL.
Biomechanic
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012It's science fiction I hope they didn't take any off the wall thoughts they might have out of consideration. I am totally cool with FTL or time travel or wormholes or anything else as long as the story is good. The things is if you study what is available right now it starts to point more toward one rather than the other. To me it seems to be pointing toward a narration of the creation of life on earth and a 30 year time span between Prometheus and Alien. I don't however see evidence of a large time travel event yet.
Starbeast
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012Yunno, if Ripley was, to-all-intents-and-purposes, in suspended animation for 57 years between Alien and Aliens, then could the same not be applied to Prometheus? This would then no longer require FTL to reach the destination. Though, I guess this would force the time line further back to the early 21st century at least, which in turn would be problematic for the technological continuity issue I brought up in another thread, "Technological Anachronisms" (and others had previously risked before that).
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