In Space, No One Can Hear The box Office Sales

Thank You @Mentos, could've explained that business about Ripley any better myself.

Ridely scott a one hit wonder ?? omg ... Balderunner and The Duellists are Jewels ...both rank in my top 10 all time . Black hawk down and The Gladiator are excellent .....and i like alot Legend, A good year too . Black rain , MAtchstick men and Public enemy are solid movies ...and i dont dislike 1492 and the Crusades either ...

Well said Ripley clone 8. To you Ripley haters, (I agree with the John Hurt sentiment but thats just because he is such a damn good actor)without Ellen Ripley, none of the other movies would have ben possible. As Clone 8 said, she is the conduit to the entire series. With regards to disposing of her first in Alien, can we honestly say that the movie would have been so much appreciated if that had happened? After all, it was the first movie of any kind to have a female lead role survivor who wasnt the stereotypical Jamie Lee Curtis virgin type. And yes, you can compare Alien to Halloween because as you pointed out, Alien is a horror movie. Apart from arnie in terminator, ripley had the defining one liner of the 80's. "Get away from her, YOU BITCH!" seriously you cant argue with the calibre of any of the Alien movies with Sigourney in them. Also, you see Ridley has a god but tbh, he is just stealing the 'chariots of the Gods' angle from the first AVP movie, lol. Hardly original

yeah that black hawk down rubbish i mean the guys a hack clearly alien was a fluke lol

And you all claim you hated it when Anderson used the 'Chariots of the God's angle', so what is so different when Ridley does the same thing? Hypocrisy? apparently you cant see the wood for the tree's, or more aptly, the screen for the empty seats, lol, in a vain attempt to re-ignite a dead franchise..... Scott is human and therefore fallible. Some of you seem to forget this. And trust me, he will sell out to fox if the money is right. Just as they all do

Black Hawk Down, top film WHAT Black Hawk Down, its a top film WHAT lol

So I guess you ll must love 'Hannibal' then????? it's only redeeming grace is Hopkin's brilliant portrayal of the 'Good' doctor, lol

I couldnt even sit through'Black Hawk' Snorky, every time I try I fall asleep.

have you read hannibal the book is way more daft then the film ridley did the best with pretty bad material and steve zallian wrote the screenplay considered to be a top writer in many circles get a grip perfect.

[b]@PerfectOrganism2[/b] Its not Ripley hating (that kind of language is reserved for the IMDB forums), I'm just pointing out an opinion; there is more to ALIEN than Ripley, so much more. And, I can and will argue the calibre of the each film regardless of whether they include Ripley or not. I'd also like to add at this point that this isn't an [i]all hail Scott[/i] affair, I'm critiquing the role of Ripley regardless of directors. In regards to canning Ripley; yes I think the film would've retained its strength. In the end the film (ALIEN) touches upon human survival, regardless of the character that survived, the case would remain the same. [i]"Scott is human and therefore fallible"[/i] does this statement not apply to Sigourney Weaver? Her presence does not automatically deem a film incredible.

there is the strong possibility the so called blue guy is not blue at all and its just the environment he's in that makes him appear that way he could be a trusty grey. Remember the blue laser in alien the protective beam that covers the eggs just a thought.

Yes, I have read the book twice actually. the second time after I had watched the film on many many occasions, and I have got to say, I much prefer the book, tbh. Mentos, whilst I agree with some of what you say regarding Weaver's on screen presence, I didnt see Cartwright getting her kit off for the lads(jockey's), did you? lol Like Ridley said, Ripley is sleeping beauty at the end, that encapsulates everything the movie's stand for, to me, Its one huge recurring nightmare fairytale, and without the Ripley character to contrast it with, the alien creature wouldn't have half the impact it does. the horror we experience from the Alien is seen through her eyes. And to a lesser extent, Newt's from the second movie. ps, I'm a Golic sympathiser 'It's a dragon!!!! And nobody can stop it!!!'

the books the reason jonathan demme refused to make hannibal and the reason jodie foster said no to it was just to incredulous.

you watched a film you hate many many times over... what to remind yourself how bad it was?

I can agree with you when we talk about ALIENS (to a certain extent) but I'm not sold on the other films. ALIEN3? Tedious. ALIEN RES? Just daft.

@PerfectOrganism2...wow....Ridley isn't God, he's not the greatest thing since sliced bread or the greatest director ever, but sure as Hell is a damn talented visual mind who, I'm sorry to disappoint you, made more than one damn good movie in 'Alien'.....say what you want.....but 'The Duellists', 'Bladerunner', 'Thelma & Lousie', 'Black Hawk Down', 'Gladiator'.....they're all good movies, the first three classics in their own right.....and 'Bladerunner' a bad movie? Sorry, but I gotta say you wouldn't know good sci-fi if it bit you on the ass, literally. As to the whole Ripley thing...I'm not hating on her, to use the pejorative term, I just feel the heart of 'Alien' isn't Ripley, it isn't the monster or any of that. It's about understanding the likelihood of what will happen when we look into the alien universe that exists outside of our tiny blue marble and, ultimately, humanity's inability to cope with what it finds...'Alien' is about the supreme insignificance of man's arrogant self-importance. Short of looking at the marquee, it isn't obvious that Ripley's the lead until she takes command after Dallas' disappearance. Prior, the whole film comes off as an ensemble piece and, I think, is much better for it. The sequels focus entirely on her and the xeno, because....well...her performance in 'Alien' was brilliant and the xeno is the most brilliantly concieved and unique monster in cinematic history.....so they milked both for everything they were worth. That's what studios do.......Ridley, I trust, Fox.....Hell no.

think you nailed it there craigamore, i couldn't agree more.

Thanks @alteredstate....and furthermore, as to my comment on the intent of 'Alien': "It's about understanding the likelihood of what will happen when we look into the alien universe that exists outside of our tiny blue marble and, ultimately, humanity's inability to cope with what it finds...'Alien' is about the supreme insignificance of man's arrogant self-importance." I think that was Ridley's and O'Bannon's original take on the material and is also the source of everything that encompasses what 'Prometheus' will be.......I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

Sorry Craig, was just getting my morning dose of caffeine. Clearly you are a Ridleylover, even though you claim you don't see him as a god. What you said regarding his first three movies being classics is proof of that. Sorry bud but you sound like the sort of bloke who would say Cameron's best work is Titanic, lolz. Or that Gangs of New York was the best gangster film since Godfather. And Decrappio would make an excellent Michael Corleone, lmfao Just kidding I'm sticking to what I said though, Ridley only made one decent movie. Blade runner is ok-ish and when I need some kip I stick it on, and Gladiator is good(but only because of its subject material, nobody could make a bad movie about Roman gladiators) If Hannibal is such a bad novel, why was it a big best-seller? And why did Harris get to do a sequel which was also a best seller and translated onto the silver screen?

The spice girls are big sellers the biggest crap in the world sells to the masses never judge anything on popularity . I thought YOU never liked Hannibal i quite enjoyed it but you seem to have an unmovable grudge against ridley who went to the royal academy of art and design which is the equivalent of Juilliard for musicians in america, you cant fake that, here in the uk its about as good as it gets . Duellists won the grand jury prize at cannes and the film world in general acknowledges ridleys achievements in film except you who claims he's made one decent film there's only one person here looking daft and it aint me BUDDY. You said your self avatar was the most expensive cartoon in history yet it made millions at the box office and made a shed load of money... using your logic then its a masterpiece. As far a tom harris goes i like the vast majority of his work red dragon was sublime and so was silence of the lambs but its generally accepted that Hannibal was he's achilles heel , having said that three quarters of the book are fine but after that it goes down hill rapidly . ive googled the reviews and almost all of the reviews say the same with a few exceptions if it was really all that then jonathan demme and jodi foster would have jumped on board and almost all involved in the film requested a rewrite even the producers who requested ridley to make it.

@ruth While u r right that a standalone movie Usually has higher potential of being a unique and maybe artistic movie, U r ignoring the fact that everything with a big budget is all about business. noone would spend so many millions to satisfy a bunch of hardcore Alien Fans. They always try to maximize Profit. This might suck because movies like transformers or spiderman were made for the mainstream instead addressing to the real fans. And it is not true that Fox only produced movies for the mainstream. Predators from 2010 was clearly a genre movie made by fans for the fans. however, that movie only attracted Predator fans or sci-fi action fans. however, as this one is another ridley scott movie, i believe Prometheus will be A good movie at least and not a Mainstream popcorn flick like michael bay or roland emmerich movies.

Well said @alteredstate.......totally agree with all of that

No..sadly. And people will take from that the wrong message.

Ridley Scott gets less cause he does deliver box office duds now and then. And 150 million plus whatever print and ad cost. So more like 225 million will be the true break even number. They seem to be spending a lot to push this movie. I think it will make a profit, it will just really have to rely on overseas attendance. North American I think it isn't going to do as well as many people think. And we all have to remember that as great of a film as it is, Bladerunner didn't set the box office on fire.

I'm talking to a lot of people coming from The Avengers screening, and saying that the trailer for Prometheus looks incredible, that they will definitely be seeing it. It's just my opinion, but the big media push is just ramping up. Intelligent science fiction/horror: people continue to forget that there is an untapped audience absolutely starving for a film like Prometheus. Not superhero, not marketed to teens, with top production values. I don't know, I just think that the film is actually going to perform far better than expected. Ridley Scott's track record in science fiction speaks for itself, and anyone discounting Gladiator as anything but excellent, is probably biased against the director. Prometheus is probably the film that cements Scotts legacy, and the detractors and critics will be forced to reconsider their opinions. We'll see. The problem with the Ripley sequels is hinged on one horrible decision: you never ever make your protagonist invulnerable to your monster. Once it was established that Ripley could survive a confrontation, everything was downhill.

I is happy now that a thread has been revived. I HAVE THE POWER! :-P