Derelict ship in Alien. . .

But just because I disagree with @Starbeast and @Ramshull666 doesn't mean that they aren't right and I am. In fact here's another theory to consider. If the Egg Chamber isn't on the Derelict and in fact the Egg Chamber is located underground on LV-426, then maybe we are all taking the crashing of the Derelict, in the Prometheus trailer, out of context. What if the Derelict has already taken off from the planet after loading up eggs from the Egg Chamber and the Prometheus crashes into the Derelict which makes it fall out of the sky back down to the planet?!

So the main consensus is that the cavern below ISN'T part of the Derelict ship itself then?? As when you look at the ship from outside, it's clear that that cavern is way too big especially when you can see it curving around in the distance. . . But then the question is, the walls make it look "man"-made, which begs the question of why the Derelict is in that specific position. . .

Well if the cave is not part of the Derelict, which for proportions sake it couldn't be, then the crash in the trailer could NOT be LV426. As the ship come to a stop on solid unplanned ground. So I reckon we're definitely at least dealing with 2 planets.

Here's the question: Did the thing that burst out of the space-jockey make the eggs? Or were the eggs already there, being transported as bio-chem weapons? What came first, the alien or the egg? When RS says the derilict is filled with weapons, I 'think' he wants us to believe the eggs are the weapons...but who is to say ? I think the ampules contain the original bio-weapon and something goes very, very, wrong... with some almost human help....Androids are bio-mech... imagine that combination... Love this Forum!

Doubt the ships are the same. They really look different when looking at the one in Alien and the one in the trailer. Unless there is damage that we do not see in the trailer they may very well be different scenes. One crashes, one is picking up eggs from their underground environmentally protected storage. This one perhaps lands but the SJ dies due to the critter inside of it and never gets off the ground. Picking them up to deliver to earth?

I'm kinda surprised no one has mentioned this before. I noticed when watching Alien that the Derelict....its front prongs of the ship are about 50 to 75 meters from the ground. In the Prometheus trailer one of those prongs can be seen crashing/sinking into the ground.

If the ship has maximum 2 - 3 decks, it could work. A diagram here shows a conjectural placement of the Cockpit and Egg Chamber: [url=http://www.freeimagehosting.net/l53pp][img]http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/l53pp.jpg[/img][/url]

I'm still open to the option its a cavern, but perhaps the perspective between the sets and the original concept art for the ship are out a little...

I guess the chamber could be in the ship but the perspective is difficult to see. The curve is similar, the design elements are the same but it sure looks bigger than the ship in the trailer. There really must only be a "bridge" and engines. The rest would have to be storage (at least down one section that we see in the original Alien).

Yes Bazinga, my thoughts exactly...

The hole that leads to the egg chamber from the SJ room is irregular and does not fit in with the design of the rest of that room. It looks like it was [b]acid burned[/b] when it started. This is a foreboding of the face-hugger acid we will later see burning through the decks of the Nostromo. [img]http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o612/Nephilim-LV426/Prometheus/Alien-Entrance_Hole_to_Egg_Chamber.jpg[/img] As to the depth of the egg chamber, I think we are supposed to believe it is still within the rounded top area of the derelict. (Nicely diagrammed Ramskull666). Also, notice how the blue protective light covering the eggs is just one section of a massive rounded area that has multiple sections...for what purpose...?

Ramskull, There is an issue with that. The 3 entered the derelict through the vaginal openings in the front middle of the ship. If the egg chamber is where you are saying it is in your diagram then they came in through the egg chamber. In order for the cavern to curve to the right and then back to the left the SJ chair would have to be positioned on the left side of the hammer head. Another issue that is posed here is that the cavern is heated meaning there is still a viable power supply on the derelict. Where is the power core at and how come the Nostromo couldn't pick up on a power source? I also don't think the novelisation dimensions are accurate stating the cave is 130ft high. If you look at Kane going down into the cavern that thing is at least 300ft deep if you figure Kane is around 6ft and he looks like an ant in the picture. Regards, Rick

So I think its an underground cavern that the derelict opened up and the structural work on the cave walls could have been built by the SJ Spawn under the ship.

@Rick - I like your "vaginal" opening name LOL! But yeah, I think the cavern must be a seperate space to what's within the Derelict ship as it curves massively into the distance. . . But this begs the question, why does the cave have similar architecure to the SJ ship??

have been reading this thread. To be honest you are all reading way way too much into this. Its just a continuity error. The egg chamber IS on the derelict. The fact that it is out of proportion is just a filming mistake. Nothing more to it than that. Deal with it. Move on.

You're missing the point High Priest, speculation and reading into things is the point many of these threads. We're doing it for enjoyment and not so we can hold anyone to account on revelation of the plot. Try it - it's pointless fun

Agreed Enderwiggin - However that is my speculation and reading into this thread. Valid, I'm sure you would agree.

Valid - indeed. However I suspect you're right and the egg chamber is actually on the ship, I doubt Giger and Scott had the ruler out when the Derelict was conceived.

Indeed, it is pointless fun! But i agree, Giger and Scott didn't have a ruler at hand when putting things together, and its definitely a filming mistake. And yes Rick, your point is entirely valid. Once again, we will have to wait and see what Prometheus has to offer on this subject...

I wonder if it is a filming mistake at all...I mean...Scott would have changed something there for the special edition they did afterwards if that were the case...No way he himself would have missed that let alone Giger...I think there may be an answer forthcoming during the last "8 minutes" of Prometheus.