that attacking guy isnt going through a transformation his face is acid burned

Ridely has stated there will be a 'progenitor' to the Xenomorph but no Xenomorph's as we have seen them already. So we will see the missing link not the Alien we know as the Xenomorph. But this has been covered on magnitude on this sight.

[quote]Ridley Scott has stated over and over again, THERE WILL BE NO XENOMORPHS IN PROMETHEUS! Whenever I see someone use that word to describe an alien in the movie Prometheus all can think of is desperate wish fulfillment for the original Alien to return to this movie. Please think of something else to call whatever the crew of the Prometheus is transforming into. The suffix "Xeno" is from the Greek which means "stranger, alien". The word morph means " a visual or behavioral difference between organisms of distinct populations in a species". Xenomorph is a portmanteau word which only appears in the movies "Aliens" which refers to the original Alien created by H.R. Giger.[/quote] AND THAT COMMENT IS FLAT OUT INCORRECT !!!

I was just about to post the same thing BellaisanAlien, I even had this quote to paste. EGE: Final question. I have a feeling what the answer will be, but many want to know. Will we see the original xenomorph in Prometheus? RS: No. Absolutely not. They squeezed it dry. He (the xenomorph) did very well. (He laughs) He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ! I'm not saying there will be a xenomorph of some form in the movie, but I would say that it's not a definite no. From what I read somewhere on one of the forums was that what we saw in Alien possibly had Space Jockey DNA, and then Human DNA after that. So try stripping away any human traits, and then any space jockey traits (Which we don't really know may be at this point, since we're all waiting to see what they actually look like without the suit) and you can easily end up with something that looks nothing like what we see in Alien. Like I said this isn't definite, however it could fit along with what Ridley is saying.

So is the 'bio-former' a progenitor to the alien blood and facehugger? Is the white worm also some earlier version of the facehugger? And the ampules earlier forms of the eggs? The key ideas of the film are just out of reach (as I'm sure Ridley would want). Are we in fact witnessing the early stages of the process / experiments which eventually lead to the fully fledged xenomorph 'system'? Do the crew find the Space Jockeys at a stage when the 'Alien' is still in the design process? Does the crew's intervention / involvement have some bearing on the 'end product'?

Could be something like this Xenomorph - Human DNA - Jockey DNA = Progenitor and really the progenitor could be anything he wants to make it be whether it's green goop, a slithery fishy looking thing or whatever else he wants to create. A well written story can explain any sequence of events to get from Progenitor to Xenomorph. I know a lot of us are hoping for something of this nature to explain some of the mystery of the Aliens origin, but all we may get is a hint at something to do with the original film and not see anything even related to the Xeno which could raise even more questions and not really clear anything up.

yeah xenomorphs is just ageneral term meaning alien also ENOUGH WITH THE BIOFORMER...that is a made up word made up in someone's FANFIC..there isnt going to be anything about bioformer in prometheus...those people arent transforming after coming into contact with a "bioformer" thats totally made up by someone who just made it up out of thin air after watching the trailer that stuff looks like acid that the guy comes into contact with probably acid ic blood like the aliens have...and who knows what that stuff fassbender is looking at...it could beanything..it could be preserved organs used to engineer the xenos or it could be some preserved species...it could be ANYTHING...its not some BIOFORMER stuff you guys are basing that all on someone's FANFIC its ridiculous...watch when the movie comes out and nobody is transforming and there is no bioformer at all some members of the crew are clearly rabid from coming into contact with somthing that is making them attack the other crew members...however, they are not turning into the xenomorphs...they aren't..the dude's face is burned..the xenos come from facehugger eggs they burst out of somoenes chest after incubating and growing ...there isnt a bioformer that changes someones genetic structure the origions of the xenos are not mutated humanbeings..they origionate from eggs a QUEEN lays the eggs..there is no bioformer although that is a cool concept and pretty good writing for a fanfic thats not what is happening in the movie..thats just some made up plot

Thanks @Juxtapose....and let's not forget, Shaw AND Vickers are running from the crashing derelict.....she's doing push-ups buddy and that is universally accepted to be Shaw collapsing in this pic: [img]http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/shaw-battered-and-bloody-500x211.jpg[/img] The site I got this from labeled it's pic, "shaw-battered-and-bloody-500x211.jpg" And I shouldn't have to tell you that Vickers is a [b]BLONDE[/b], the woman in the pic is clearly dark haired and Shaw is the only female character we've seen who could possibly fit that bill. Sorry @reffugee, I'm sure exactly which shot you're looking for....I think I do, but was not able to find it so that I could post it......admittedly, I'm a bit computer illiterate with certain things.

And you seem to keep missing the entire point @20thcenturybuick.........Ridley said we won't see the xeno. We will see a 'progenitor' of the xeno, as in something that resembles one but isn't and comes before it. True, the whole bioformer thing is fanfiction, but it comes out of people putting the peices together in an way that is not illogical........the acid stuff obviously changes whoever it affects, makes them change in an obviously grotesque way, makes them aggressive towards their fellow crew and apparently give them strange agility, speed and athletic ability that does not appear human...people are logically suggesting that the affected individual is the 'progenitor' of the xeno.....that said, the whole bioformer business is just a term used to express the theory, that's all....RELAX....

sorry @reffugee....I'm not sure which shot you refer to.....I have an idea, but can't find it for me to post.

Even though I was berated for daring to predict a theory in a previous thread, Ill repeat myself... I think that Repace's character will be impregnated either accidentally by coming in contact with what ever is in the ampules, or deliberately by SJ's or others, therefore creating the first Xeno. I think the scenes with her bloodied are the effects of this pregnancy, not transforming into something else as previously stated in this thread. This new Xeno she births will be different because it has no SJ DNA. I agree with the burning face acid theory because really, Space Zombies! I doubt very that Ridley would bother with this tired over used story line. Also we need to keep in mind that there could be some internal espionage going on.....

alright i get the theory now..i see how those people could be essentially acting like the alien..makes sense to me now i thought you guys were talking about that fanfic i did not realize ridley scott mentioned that

@craigamore: Can you give me a link to an interview where Ridley Scott says directly that whatever aliens appear in Prometheus will be "progenitor" of the alien from the 1979 movie? Google isn't helping me at this point.

@brego: you have one helluva an imagination. You should write scifi scripts for television. I'm being sarcastic of course. I think Shaw's bloodied appearance from the trailer is from being attacked by a transformed crew member. Look to the left of the shot of the so-called burning acid victim: see the silhouette of a crew member's face screaming/yelling? I think that's a reaction to the sudden transformation of human to a sj puppet.

craigamore has the theory pretty much spot-on, IMO. Whatever that substance is, it has transformed that human into something not very nice. Vickers's character is definitely not transforming in that 'press-up' picture either. Perhaps that is the exercises that they have to do when they come out of hyper-sleep or whatever it's called, if the other android really is responsible for getting them into shape. It could just be that Scott wants Vickers to look macabre and evil from the outset. What we have to remember is this is not going to be an all-out action movie; it's going to make us think. It's going to be much more 'intelligent' then the vast majority of sci-fi films. This is no Avatar. This is no Star Wars. This is no Aliens. This is far more akin to the original Alien, a thriller but executed very well. But it will be more thought provoking than the original Alien too, it will be more like a mixture of Alien, Blade Runner and 2001 A Space Odyssey. Scott wants to get that balance between addressing 'big' questions that will make us think and wonder, and having something that is thrilling, scary and exciting.

I think the helmet burning and implied transformation has been assumed due to the footage of something crawling under the skin on the cheek of the victim. The helmet burns but the corrosion does not appear to eat away at the persons face, it appears to react with his skin in a very strange way; parrasidic is my only point of reference, but again this is only a guess......

Very well said I could not agree any more than I do and have stated as much before but yea this is not your regular film, this is going to be an Event

It's amazing the extensively deep thoughts that can be weened from a trailer and a few leaked pics and (bogus) scripts... whether any of us are right or wrong, isn't the point... it's the creative journey that's important... and I'm diggin' be on this one... with you guys!

Here's an idea - and remember it is only an idea - so don't flame me - how about the Alien, as we know it, is in fact derived from contact between an android and the bio-former / goop / green stuff (what ever the hell you do/don't want to refer to it as). We know David touches the stuff, perhaps he activates it somehow? And thus by interfering with Space Jockey's experiments the Alien is inadvertently created? Perhaps David even becomes contaminated with the 'bio-former' - perhaps he cut his finger whilst touching it? And remember folks, what I've posited here is only AN IDEA!!

Looks like the Green Goop is unofficially known as the Bio-Former; thank you very much fake leaked script. The sad thing is that the Goop is probably insignificant and is just a gel to protect the contents of the container. I'm pretty sure the fake script is the only source that referenced the gel as being important to the plot.

I completely dissagree because in one of the scenes in the trailer we can clearly see the goo enveloping/attacking it's host, and he's screaming like a son of a you know what.