What is considered Canon in the Prometheus storyline. . .

Xenophobe
MemberOvomorphFebruary 20, 20123845 Views30 RepliesSo I've heard loadsa different theories on here etc, and some have stated that Prometheus will ONLY go along with the plot in Alien and no other "Alien" movie afterwards. If this is true, is it safe to say that we won't see any Queen type Xeno, as that creature was put into the universe by Cameron in Aliens.
Thoughts??
February 21, 2012
Oh I don't mind whether this Prometheus movie fits in with the Alien canon or not. It just struck me as odd how this film could possibly take place in the Alien "universe", if it ignores one of the major things from the actual Alien franchise as a whole (The Queen I mean). . . Anyway, I think yes this film will more than likely follow the life cycle that was originally gonna be the basis of the Alien movie. I.e the mutation into a Xenomorph egg etc, as this is definitly a more disturbing way of reproducing in my eyes!
February 21, 2012
Hold on a goddamn second here...did someone mention Jaws The Revenge????!!!! Jaws the mother fucking revenge???? as in, errrr the greatest film ever made, in the history of filmaking EVER!!!!! Seriously - Be gone, Blaspheim!, swear box!!!!! You must be banished for mentioning such things!!!!
February 22, 2012
I want it to have nothing to do with anything that came after Alien. Nothing at all. If it does I will probably walk out and ask for my money back.
I think connecting it to the entire mess that has been the Alien Franchise is a terrible idea and will end in tears and failure for Fox. After AvP:R that universe needs a break.
February 22, 2012
The word "canon" makes me physically sick when discussing Film. It has no place IMO in any film discussion, and It makes me very angry. That said, I am not trying to be controntational, I am just very intimidated by that particular word when it comes to this franchise and the reason is SCOTT and O'Bannon used so many hundreds of different refence points, each themselves on their own, in developing the original story, and O'bannon is so overlooked most of the time as someone mentioned. The fact is both made contributions but the true inventor of this entire storyline was O'bannon. The problem is/was at times he was defensive and behaving so irrationally according to all the others nvolved in making he film, that he got no resopect from anyone. But ALIEN was his baby from the moment he thought up the Beach Ball in "Star Beast" and knew he would one day have to make up for it wiht a much more serious creature, and film. The truth is ALSO that without SCOTT's input and changes, the whole thing never gets done at all. To me, the ONLY CANON their ever was, was the one that went off inide my brain at the exact moment I first saw Mr. "FH" come forth into this dimension from wihtin the bowels of John Hurts stomach.
February 22, 2012
got a lot to say on this one, I will do it in the morning, bottom line is I have a Big fat problem wiht that word..."Canon" I mean. Like I said I'll address it tomorrow.
February 23, 2012
@Spartacus - I purely meant would this film follow the storyline in Alien alone, or also include the subsequent plots from the following films aswell. . .
February 23, 2012
@Spartacus - I purely meant would this film follow the storyline in Alien alone, or also include the subsequent plots from the following films as well. . .
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Hey man, it's sooo cool...no worries at all...Your post made me think hard about what I wanted to say and here is a few of the thoughts I wrote down with your post in mind last night in case you are interested...by the way I may have worded it wrong but my intention was NOT to make you feel bad. I apologize if I did at all in any way at all.
#1-IMO in order to be here at all, and if we even realize it ourselves or not...in order to be right here on these forums, we had to have found at the very least, at least 1little thing in each of the Franchise's first 4 films, that we LIKED.
#2-Signourney Weaver's character of Ellen Ripley became so enduring to so many people that the first 4 films IMO should be considered "CANON" as you would say and are what they are in large part due to the popularity, loyalty to , and following that her character/SHE garnered. I have the ultimate respect for the word as it was intended to be used and what it stands for, but to me it generalizes to narrow a bandwidth for so much material to consider when weiging validity and continuity in the Alien Franchise storyline.
#3-The first film in any film franchise that is successful is always because of or on the strength of it's first film in the series. That film is the hook that sets the stage for the rest of them and it is almost unheard of to see a film that comes out 2nd thru 4th in a franchise to be BETTER "per sey" than the original. That said there is much validity to your argument that ONLY the first film should matter. But I loved them all and it hurt me or hit to close to home to read that I guess because I did. I mean I understand why they lost something as we go down the line and I hated the mutation to that creature at the end of Resurrection, but...There's like NO chance in any popular film franchise for subsequent films in it to ever mean more than the original film in it.
#4-O'Bannon I feel is waymore deserving than anyone gives credit. he was/is just a really starange guy who touched some people the wrong way with his bad character.
Buut that does not diminish the fact that his importance to all of this is maybe the only importance that is as important or more so than Ridley Scott's. The Beach Ball of StarBeast was his yes...that's why we have a Xenomorph today folks, last time I checked at least.
#5-Alan Dean Foster wrote out the first 3 films in his HUGELY POPULAR novelizations.
He also wrote in some very awesome stuff that what..."can't be Canon" because they weren't officialy part of the first film?
I guess in the end like I said it comes down to the fact that I just do not like the word "Canon". LOL I rationalize it like this...A "Canon" in my world is a very old and slow incumbered weapon you gotta light a wick on and spray and pray with...it ain't very accurate In and of itself I guess...oh it sounds all big and tugh when I read it and I guess that intimidates me a bit because of that too.
Very provocative post this one was for me, made me think a lot about it.
I like the idea, but still think I am open to accept anything Ridley decides to do with it, for me it'll all be just as vaklid if he includes references from all4 films but I don;t think he will becayse it is after a Prequel so it would be logical that it only concern itself wiht reunning into the first of the franchise films.
Thanks man.
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