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MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 4:57 PMzombie rabid guy...hes seen scrambling away from flames and the person he leaps on is by a vehicle thats on fire..then in a later clip you see someone in what looks like the vehicle hanger using a flame thrower
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craigamore
MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 9:55 PMI'm aware @Biomechanic and have my eye on things.....let's relax guys.........@20thcenturybuick, I already posted a response to @GreatBoosUp......no reason you can't settle down either...civil...respectful.....got it guys?

artyoh
MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 10:11 PMIn the shot [i]without[/i] "mutant guy," they seem to be very casual about the use of flamethrowers. Everyone is just walking around, going about their business, not reacting to any significant, immediate threat. Maybe they're trying to eliminate something on the ground........perhaps the equivalent of extraterrestrial insect pests or their larvae. That's what it looks like to me, anyway. Maybe they're what Scott had in mind when he said that small, seemingly insignificant things end up being terribly important.

craigamore
MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 10:13 PMThat's kind of what I was thinking as a possibility as well @Gehirn....it seems most likely to me now that whoever is using the flamethrower was probably in the hanger when they were attacked and had no other means to protect themselves......

Mr.J
MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 10:18 PMIt makes sense for the team of scientist's to have the security team and well, to ensure organisms are brought back and no second thoughts occur. Sending a multi million perhaps billion dollar vessel to the middle of no where is pretty risky. Mr Weyland wants to make sure his things are well protected. I would imagine they have hand guns and other weapons on board, perhaps not telling the rest of the crew what they have..because Shaw and others are under the impression this will be first contact and be a great mission for mankind. Yet, Mr. Weyland is prepared and by prepared has a security team to handle hostile organisms...

Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 10:32 PMI think this shot that craigamore posted may be just before the bit in the trailer where the guy is jumping off the vehicle. In fact I think it's the very same guy, because in the leaked trailer that came out just before the official one there were still flames on that jumping guy, I think that were edited out in the official one, because in the official trailer there is still smoke coming off him.
Man. Who's got a handy time masheen? :-P
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craigamore
MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 11:22 PMThat's what I think the logical progression is @Cypher......It makes sense.

Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 11:26 PMSurely does. I think you also mentioned when they were walking around calmly firing off flamethrowers, ten bucks says that's just before they set out to wherever they are headed for the first time since landing on the planet. Before the poop hits the fan.
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Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 11:33 PMThis is slightly off topic, but when I went to see The Village, halfway through I turned to the girl I was seeing it with and said, "I bet there are people driving BMW's using mobile phones outside of this village......" Sure enough, there were......... I do that a lot with movies. Maybe I should be a Hollywood "writer" :-P
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craigamore
MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 11:37 PMMaybe......I did the same thing with both 'The Illusionist' and 'The Prestige'...figured both out at least 40 minutes before the climax...pissed me off it did...especially with 'The Prestige'.....I'm sittin' in my living room, it just clicked in my head and I was like...damn it...had to turn it off for a bit I was so mad...........I want a good movie to fool me. I hate when I figure it out early.

CrazyDave55811
MemberOvomorphFeb-27-2012 11:40 PMI was going to ask if this thread had anything to do with fire being a weakness of the creatures in this movie, just like in the Alien franchise. Looks like everybody beat me to it. I do wonder now if Space Jockeys are as flammable as the familiar xenomorphs....
....oh snap now I'm thinking about how "fire" is symbolic due to this movie's name and the mythos behind Prometheus himself.....but I'm too tired to dabble into it, and I think you guys don't need to hear it when it comes to flamethrowers. Seriously; a flamethrower is what it is, plain and simple, no philosophical hullabaloo necessary. o_O

Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorphFeb-28-2012 12:29 AMNice thought CrazyDave. Snap indeed! That actually hadn't made any connection in my mind. Sometimes you can't see the forest from the trees as they say. Nice one indeed :-)
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Gavin
MemberTrilobiteFeb-28-2012 5:17 AMFirst I wanna comment an the question of why the crew are using flamethrowers instead of guns. When in space the last thing you would want is a gun, for the obvious reason that you could shoot a hole in the hull and thus vent atmosphere. Flamethrowers would therefore make more sense. Also flamethrowers seem to be a staple of the Alien franchise and could be another tentative link to that franchise.
Yes, there is a scene were we see characters holding small firearms, but these are probably used as a last resort for the reason I have stated.
Now onto this image...
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I have heard a lot of people referring to this image as being of the mohawk mutant escaping the flamethrower. I don't think it is, I think the person in this image is Noomi Rapace aka Elizabeth Shaw. The figure is definitively feminine and this individual seems to have dark ragged hair obscuring their face.

Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorphFeb-28-2012 5:40 AMMmmmmmmm.... I can definitely see what you're saying Snork, but it could also be argued that it is the chestplate on the suit that is making what looks like the outline of a breast, and I don't think Shaw's hair is.... I think it looks a little curled at the top maybe? And I don't think in any image we've seen of Shaw so far that her hair looks that short.
I'm definitely seeing the mohawk. But I do concede that the form looks somewhat feminine. Photoshop job of Mohawk Man's hair and Shaw's bod to throw us all off? No that's taking it too far even for me :-P
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POOPMETHEUS
MemberOvomorphFeb-28-2012 7:03 AMMaybe he's not a 'infected human' at all.... Maybe he's a company robot that is all messed up looking from having a flamethrower used on him?

RickK
MemberOvomorphFeb-28-2012 7:22 AM_ post deleted-
(sorry Charlie, I see you already thought of that too)

GreatBoosUp
MemberOvomorphFeb-28-2012 7:47 AM@craigamore: I am not attacking 20thcenturybuick personally, I am attacking his ideas. Ideas are not people and they should be challenged when they are presented in a public forum like this.

jujutsuka
MemberOvomorphFeb-28-2012 8:21 AM@GreatBoosUp,
I think people have a problem with the accusatory tone you took when you replied to 20thcenturybuick, and the fact that the idea you were "attacking" as being speculation is real and present in the trailers. All 20thcenturybuick did was "litter" the forum with a quality thread that got people talking.
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Kane77
MemberOvomorphFeb-28-2012 12:11 PMfunny, that in the original Alien script by Walter Hill and David Giler, fire has no effect on the alien :
[i]The Alien drops Lambert.
Parker lands a blow with the flamethrower.
No effect.
The Alien strikes him once.
Killing him instantly.
He now moves to Lambert.[/i]

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteFeb-28-2012 12:29 PM@ Kane77 - The original Alien script was written by Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shussett. Hill, Gordon and Carroll are evil and deserve to be burned alive IMO

craigamore
MemberOvomorphFeb-28-2012 7:16 PM@Kane77..."struck" int hat context refers to Parker using the flamethrower as a club, because he can't use it properly knowing Lambert is in the way.

Kane77
MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 10:51 AMhttp://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/alien_shooting.html
´´ "ALIEN"
by
Walter Hill
and
David Giler
Based on screenplay
by
Dan O'Bannon
Story by
Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett
REVISED FINAL
JUNE, 1978 ´´
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