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MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 5:52 PMim just trying to surmise the plot. obviously the crew finds the jockeys. i can only guess because weyland knows about them from studying and finding artifacts about them here on earth. this isnt just a guess in the promos the tagline is that we learn about our beginning hence here on earth..then you have the overwhelming amount of evidence regarding space jockeys here on earth as titans or annunaki...so weyland finds out about them through extensive research and launches the prometheus specifically for finding the jockeys...however we encounter what could be our end...so somthing has killed the jockeys (not all of them) because once we find them there is nobody around judging by all the shots of the crew investigating not to mention their are even DEAD jockeys like the decapitated jockey missing his arm..so what caused that im guessing the xeno...however this is all theoretical there are sequences of what appears to be a jockey ship crashing..
you know what would be cool...if the xeno played a major part in the film and ridley was just keeping it a surprise...doubtful though
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GreatBoosUp
MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 6:14 PMI always thought that Weyland Industries finds out about the Space Jockeys because of a signal received from a distant planet. They send Vickers and Shaw out on the Prometheus to investigate the source of the signal. The crew of the Prometheus discovers a tunnel on the side of a mountain on the alien world. They follow the tunnel to the Big Head/Ampule room where they discover a Space Jockey helmet and suit. "The rest is history" as they say.
20thcenturybuick
MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 6:19 PMyeah but weyland has terra forming technology..also he names theship prometheus so he knows that they were gods

GreatBoosUp
MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 6:27 PMI think Weyland named his ship the Prometheus because he is on board with Vickers and Shaw and he wants to the ship to be thought of as the next "Bringer of Fire" to mankind. If Weyland discovers some kind of God-like technology on the alien world and can bring it back to earth to use it as a weapon, then the Prometheus would be "a bringer of fire to mankind". Recall that the Titan Prometheus brought fire to mankind to defend themselves against the animals. Of course, when Zeus found out about it he sent Pandora and her urn to unleash hell upon the humans to balance out the fire gift.

CrazyDave55811
MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 7:38 PMInteresting. So, canonically-speaking, Weyland-Yutani's terraforming technology is based off of extraterrestrial stuff, the kind of stuff that when sighted was genuine "godly" material? That's something I never thought about; I figured Weyland-Yutani could make their own terraforming technology. But on the other hand, reverse-engineering alien technology would probably be easier than creating it from scratch. Of course I still see the alien technology as being that green goop from one of those urns.

Guest
MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 8:05 PMalso he most likely knows where the jockeys are from some artifacts or a signal he has found...then sends the prometheus to go them..he isnt just blindly searching for them..he knows where they are and has the prometheus specifically to set out for them

Tallon1138
MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 8:21 PMDo a search on mr. H. R. Giger alien lifecycle I don't think Mr. Scott follows this but it would be interesting, now go google!!!

Frantz
MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 8:27 PMA weyland financed expedition find some Alien artifacts on Earth or Mars ...then they go to visit them .... that is what is possible . All the rest is just wild speculation imo .

Xenotron
MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 10:17 PMWe can't take any plot points off of this for a few reasons. I'm going to share them with you now.
For one, if this clip is not in the movie (as it's rumored that it isn't) that places it in the realm of marketing material. The sole purpose for this clip is to create a buzz for fans on the internet to tell their friends so as to sell more tickets at the movie theater.
Secondly, the point of the speech is that he's about to change the world the way that other great men from history have and cites examples from human history. The quote from Lawrence about extinguishing the match was only to say that we can't look at the negative effects of moving forward. Citing Prometheus from myth as an example was his way of recounting the many technological advances in human history. He doesn't say anything about jockeys, aliens, or anything like that.
Thirdly, he doesn't say exactly how he's going to change the world only that he's going to change it. He doesn't mention a mission into the outer reaches of space, or terraforming, and he doesn't even mention the "world-changing" technology that he's referring to. If this video is considered canon, we don't know if this takes place before, during, or after the movie. Therefore, we don't know the context behind his speech.
Ultimately, we can't take any information about the movie away from this video other than Weyland's character. To do so would be, quite frankly, foolish.

Alien DNA
MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 10:42 PMIf you go to the TED blog with the video there's a link titled about the speaker giving some background to Weyland. Are they suggesting that by him creating a synthetic atmosphere above the polar ice cap and also quoting him as saying that "if there is no air to breathe, than we will simply have to make it." that he already has terra forming technology, or is at least pioneering that field. Is this the tech that he's looking to steal from the Jockey's?

alteredstate.
MemberOvomorphFeb-29-2012 10:58 PMIn the alien commentary ridley says that bret brought his hawian shirt at a interglactic gift shop sometime along the journey he later goes on to say its not mars that's to close to earth he later speculates about zeta reticuli
20thcenturybuick
MemberOvomorphMar-01-2012 12:50 AMwell when i said he sets out to find the jockeys i meant that he knew where they were at from either a signal or from an artifact here on earth..thus the prometheus is there to make contact with them on their distant planet

Mala'kak
MemberOvomorphMar-01-2012 4:17 AM@GreatBoosUp Agreed. Well said.
The reason I think Weyland's already figured some things out is because his mother was a professor in comparative mythology at Oxford. Not only do I think that's where he gets his inspirations from, but his father gave him the tools needed to allow his empire to grow, and to begin his secret endeavors.
I think he has some of the pieces of the puzzle and that's why he's so sure of himself in the video. However, it's not until much later when he meets a young archaeologist who he can manipulate with his knowledge of mythology, that he's able to figure out where they're going. The initial discovery in the film + Shaw's expertise + his knowledge in comparative myth leads them to where we catch up with them in 2073-78

Xenotron
MemberOvomorphMar-01-2012 4:38 PMEven if Weyland has figured things out, even if he knows about the extraterrestrials, even if he has his eyes set on terraforming, this still doesn't tell us anything we don't already know about the movie.
This is what we know: Some how, some way, Weyland (the company) launches an expedition into space to search for humanity's origins. As reported here before, this is probably by some archeological evidence--probably an artifact with a kind of star map.
Be careful to read more from this speech than what's really there.
Ultimately, if any of this is referred to in the movie, it will probably be a throwaway line said by a character. Something like, "Oh, yeah, 'Building Better Worlds'? Weyland has been promising us that since 2023!"
It tells us nothing.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMar-01-2012 4:50 PM@Xenotron,
I think they first find a serious and very large clue as to where to start looking in Space...but they find it...on Earth.

GreatBoosUp
MemberOvomorphMar-01-2012 5:15 PM@Xenotron, I didn't suggest that we take the Peter Weyland TED Talk in isolation and try to deduce the plot of Prometheus from it. I was suggesting that we take all of the trailers, interviews, stills, etc and this viral video and fashion a rough synopsis of the movie. I apologize for not making that clear up front.

bunnypmf
MemberOvomorphMar-01-2012 6:01 PMI'm guessing that Weyland gets all his information from a 'Saucer People' artifact and the mission is to visit their homeworld. The SJs are an unexpected surprise.
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