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MemberOvomorphMar-04-2012 8:20 PMIt's about time that the many detractors of Lambert rightfully spend a moment thinking about some of her contributions to the film. Though some of you might think that there were no deep thoughts in Alien, it's an artform and being subjective creates different reactions in different people. Lambert was a navigator on a spacecraft, so she obviously had more skills than just pushing buttons. She also knew about checks and balances. That weight equates mass which requires energy to push around the universe. She was the only one that had any trepidation about entering the Derelict. She wanted to "Get the hell out of here." Next stop bashing her for asking, "What happened to the rest of the crew?" Why would she not ask that question. The Derelict itself was an enormous vessel and to think that the SJ's race would grow/construct such a monstrous ship at a staggering expense for a lone occupant is rather presumptuous. Space is vast and isolation has detrimental effects on the psyche of most life forms. Unless you want to take the stance that they are an antisocial species that does not prefer the company of their own kind in potentially hazardous situations. Further arrogance is that any being would require a ship that capacious just to tote some eggs around the universe. The energy requirements even supposing that the [i]M Theory [i] (which is not a propulsion means it's merely an expanded set of mathematical theories concerning 11 coexisting dimensions sharing the same space) would be staggering even utilizing pseudo science to explain how that ship gets around. Now before you lambast me let me drop some credentials on you like Snorkelbottom did. I may not be a Staff member, or one of the theoretical contributers to this site but I work for NIAC in Atlanta. This is the NASA Institute for Advanced Concepts. Some of the ideas that are kicked around would sound like science fiction, but in perhaps another century they might become common place. The shape of the Derelict itself is interesting in that it has no external vectored thrust ports. If I had to come up with a means of propulsion for it I would say that it's utilizing a depleted energy vacuole, and the prongs are projectors for the manipulation of stabilized dark matter which in effect would constrict the fabric of space around the vessel and literally expand the ship through space. This is also known as a Alcubierre drive. Now getting back on point, I have always considered the alternative outcomes of points in a film, or story. There is always a story behind the dialogue and I merely am looking at the situation the way she might have. I'll also look at Prometheus through the eyes of it's various characters and until I've seen the film in it's entirety anything I say would only be conjecture.
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GreatBoosUp
MemberOvomorphMar-04-2012 8:50 PMWrong forum. You wanted the Alien, discussions. This is the Prometheus forum.

Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMar-04-2012 9:31 PMAnd so it is moved :-)
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Kane77
MemberOvomorphMar-05-2012 11:59 AMIt doesnt matter if its in Alien or Prometheus forum..anyway..
interesting thoughts, for what reason Lambert dindt get more ´credits´ in Alien ( as her being more than an navigator ), I think its just because of tension development of the whole story. Every member could get more attention, Ash, Dallas..
Yeah, its really strange, that the derelict is completely empty, we just see the egg silo is fully active with static blue mist engaged. ( the signal is functioning of course, too) . We dont get any age for the ship also, it could be hundreds or thousands of years old. The SJ is described as completely fossilized, but Ridley said this is just an suit. well...
for propulsion, Alcubierre drive seems interesting. as its a future tech, it could be kinda anti grav tech, as in Alien. On alternative boards like ATS there is some speculation about anti-grav UFO tech, combined with a navigators seat, that is necessary for navigation in time space..

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMar-05-2012 12:03 PM& Most Importantly...She was the ONLY one who presented the right idea to the crew before they all died, had they all listened to her everyone may have lived.

the walls are alive
MemberOvomorphMar-05-2012 12:15 PMI think she was a great character, naysaying female characters are often wet blankets in movies like this but I think through most of the movie she emulated the audience's terror and was just a great character and actress lol

Milos
MemberOvomorphMar-05-2012 6:34 PMAnyone else think that Lambert was kind of sexy in the film?
No?
Just me then.

NoXWord
MemberOvomorphMar-07-2012 8:00 AMI love the Lambert character. Cartwright's acting is really great, she really sets the mood for the movie, and I can't help identifying with her, and at the same time hate her for not moving when Parker yells, wasting their only chance, the only moment in the film in which they have an edge over the alien. That's a master stroke.
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMar-07-2012 8:02 AMI love the slap she gives Ripley and the story behind it in the ext version.
She really laced into here on that take. LMAO.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMar-07-2012 8:03 AMKane77, yes, the idea of taking their chances in the shuttle despite how many people your going to say it could fit.

IrishAndroid1
MemberOvomorphMar-09-2012 7:52 PMWho's to say one of us wouldn't be frozen with fear, like Lambert, even with Parker yelling at her...can you imagine that Alien coming after you (touching you) after knowing what it has done to the test of the crew? Knowing what's coming..,terrifying!!
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