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It's not a face hugger

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littlejoe

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 1:39 AM
Seems alot of people think the alien being held over Shaw in the med pod is a face hugger. If you look closely at the screen cap from the med pod scene that thing is hanging over her gut, you can tell this since that arc the thing is hanging from is even with her elbow. There is also an umbilical cord hanging from the alien that goes right to her bloody stomach. There is also blood splattered everywhere, indicating it just came out of her. Then the definitive proof, we see her later on, with a row of staples across her stomach. You can also see the huge blood stain at her waist line under her belly. So... its a chest (gut) burster... not a face hugger. I think the face hugging is probably done by those small worms in this movie. [URL=http://imgur.com/9SDSe][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9SDSe.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://imgur.com/ejwxb][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ejwxb.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
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CBT1979

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 2:02 AM
To me this creature might be taken Out by surgery instead of bursting Out by itself. The question is, When it is taken out and Shaw is walking in pain in that hallway, what tall And musculous reddish creature is standing around the corner?

Bedhead7

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 2:15 AM
This is the the main question for me. Why is this creature NOT the xenomorph we know from alien/aliens and how do we get from this creature to the alien we know? And why do ancient cultures know about the planet all this goes down on? We see a lot in the trailers but we still don't know jack.

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 2:22 AM
Aw SNAP good eyes littlejoe! Honestly, I'm more interested in this movie because I always wanted to know who the Space Jockeys were and what relation they had to the Alien. I'm sure I'll have that question answered, and probably some new ones too! :-P
[url=http://www.robocopmovie.net/][img]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/NewRoboBanner.jpg[/img][/url] "Is it dead this time?" "I dunno, poke it with this stick and see."

draekus

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 2:27 AM
That...thing (squid) is pretty big. If that was inside Shaw wouldn't she have a huge belly as if she were pregnant? Have we seen images of a pregnant Shaw? ( I know the umbilical cord and stomach stitches are good proof, but I'm just wondering if we've seen her pregnant in any trailers or leaked images.) By the way, nice avatar Cypher!

Biomechanic

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 2:31 AM
For pictures of a pregnant Shaw: [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/468&page=6]What am I[/url]

draekus

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 2:43 AM
AH I forgot i had seen those images in the original leaked trailer. Thanks Biomechanic!

Kronnang Dunn

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 4:12 AM
@CBT1979: That "tall And musculous reddish creature that is standing around the corner" is just a heavy EVA spacesuit...

Atropa

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 4:26 AM
is that supposed to be blood on her? looks like a dark grey to me. maybe they should have gone with another color lol, it looks a bit like someone had to much taco bell and had an accident.

Kronik

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 4:37 AM
The International trailer clearly shows that it's blood - for some reason the colour was changed for American audiences.

galacticnorth

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 4:48 AM
as i said in another thread...i suspect they are pulling their punches and let this thing come out of her bellybutton....a bit safe and sound :/

Atropa

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 5:36 AM
that's WEIRD, kronik! guess they changed the color for censorship? great idea, " hey guys blood is way too offensive and graphic for americans to handle in a trailer so lets make it look like doodoo instead".

Unlimited Power

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 5:40 AM
That is very weird indeed. Given the hype around the film I think it's safe to say that we'll see different cuts. I hope that we'll get something as close to a unrated-cut as possible here in Europe.

Rick

MemberXenomorphMar-21-2012 5:45 AM
LOL guys we all know blood is actually blue (unoxygenated) it dries black and in the process of drying turns brown first. So if ya like dried crusty blood on ya then yeah it looks like sh*t. So where do you figure its censorship?

Unlimited Power

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 5:55 AM
[i]@Rick[/i] Because it's red in the UK trailer.

Atropa

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 6:00 AM
what the heck is wrong with your blood!? mine is red, if i get it on anything ( cloth, tissues)it dries brown, not black. And the liquid on her does not look dried to me, looks fresh and wet. blood should not be dried up while she is having this thing removed from her body, i think its safe to assume she would have just been bleeding, if not still bleeding......its all over the inside of the tube she was in. plus it looks grey to me, not black. if your blood is that color i suggest you need to go to your doctor right away, or get off our planet because you arent human lol. i dont see black or grey blood all over kane in my avatar, do you? like "unlimited" just said, someone JUST posted that the blood is red in another trailer. id try to reed more closely before you start smarting people off with a "higher then though" attitude.

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteMar-21-2012 6:24 AM
So why are your veins blue?!?

Atropa

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 6:38 AM
because its just blue on the inside of your body... i think that has already been said. once my blood is on my skin its red, not grey..... not black.... i think i know a thing or 2 about blood. my mother became a nurse when i was a child and she worked in a shot clinic for a very long time giving shots and drawing blood, ya learn a thing or 2 from family members talking about their job. im not going to bother feeding the trolls any further, its already been stated that the blood on her body and in the pod was altered in the american version. if you cant wrap your heads around that then i dont know what else to tell ya because i cant dumb it down any more. i am absolutely amazed that making a poop joke made a couple weirdos obsess about the color of blood, the popoo comment was supposed to be the focus, people. geez who doesnt enjoy a bit of toilet humor!? apparently not ^ those guys. you have ruined a perfectly good taco bell joke -___-

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteMar-21-2012 6:45 AM
Troll... I'm staff. With the absence of Oxygen blood appears blue, drying black. When saturated with oxygen (oxygenated or an open wound) the blood appears red, drying brown! Common knowledge, high-school grade biology!

Rick

MemberXenomorphMar-21-2012 6:48 AM
Atropa, Did you not read what I posted or just key in on a single word? I really hope you saw the "(unoxygenated)" behind the blue in what I said. Unoxygenated blood is blue. LOL, Why do you think people turn BLUE when they can't breath, ie lack of oxygen. Blood outside the body is obviously unoxygenated so there is no oxygen for it to process, thus it is blue, adn then it dies and turns brown then black. It looks brown to me and whoever said it looks grey could be from the thing its taking out of her. Anyways I am off to work. Laters, Rick

Atropa

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 7:07 AM
i love when people keep trying to troll you when you already said you are done feeding them, *sigh*. Trying to provoke an arguement is still trolling, i dont give a hoot who you are :) im sorry you typed all of that out rick, because i didnt bother reading it, lol. might want to talk to a professional about the blood obsession, its creepy 0.o sorry your thread got derailed littlejoe! anyway back to the point, thanks for showing a pic of those staples on her stomach..... i thought the creature being removed was more near here head, its a weird shot and couldnt see exactly were it was being removed from. this movie looks much more "gross" then i thought it would be when people were saying its supposed to be PG13, ive never been so excited and impatient for a movie to come out! the wait is terrible!

Garadon

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 9:50 AM
On the blood issue, it's actually a very common misconception that blood is blue while on the inside of your body. In actuality, it's closer to a [url=http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2008/02/is_blood_ever_blue_science_tea.php]very dark red[/url] color. As to why the color is changed in the trailer, it's likely just a censorship issue, as has been mentioned before. There's a pretty blatant example of it in the old [url=http://youtu.be/jiS6gtClrqk?t=1m59s]trailer[/url] for the first Resident Evil movie, where they changed the blood color of one of the characters to blue. In regards to the original post (apologies for going so off-topic!), I used to think it was some weird type of facehugger being dangled over her head, but there's no arguing with the pictures. The idea of [i]that[/i] thing bursting out of your gut almost makes me queasy. ;-;

Rick

MemberXenomorphMar-21-2012 11:32 AM
Atropa, I'm not trolling, but what you did clearly is. I asked a question about censorship and I got an answer. You had an ignorant personal remark about my blood trying to move it into a personal field, right after that so being that I was "agressively defending" what I said and you coming back with a remark when Snorks got my back. For starters don't argue with the Snorks when it comes to trolling you will lose. We are fair about what goes on in these forums. I'll make this your first warning. Second warning results in a 3 days posting suspension followed by your acct being banned with any subsequent uncalled for posts of a personal nature. You seem like a smart guy. If you have any questions regarding this PM me and we'll figure it out. Regards, Rick

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteMar-21-2012 12:07 PM
Sorry Rick, but it looks as though we may have to live under a bridge after all. Check this excerpt from when i looked up blood on Wiki... [u]Color[/u] [b]Hemoglobin[/b] [i]"Hemoglobin is the principal determinant of the color of blood in vertebrates. Each molecule has four haem groups, and their interaction with various molecules alters the exact color. In vertebrates and other hemoglobin-using creatures, arterial blood and capillary blood are bright red, as oxygen imparts a strong red color to the haem group. Deoxygenated blood is a darker shade of red; this is present in veins, and can be seen during blood donation and when venous blood samples are taken. Blood in carbon monoxide poisoning is bright red, because carbon monoxide causes the formation of carboxyhemoglobin. In cyanide poisoning, the body cannot utilize oxygen, so the venous blood remains oxygenated, increasing the redness. While hemoglobin-containing blood is never blue, there are several conditions and diseases wherein the color of the heme groups make the skin appear blue. If the heme is oxidized, methaemoglobin, which is more brownish and cannot transport oxygen, is formed. In the rare condition sulfhemoglobinemia, arterial hemoglobin is partially oxygenated, and appears dark red with a bluish hue (cyanosis). Veins in the skin appear blue for a variety of reasons only weakly dependent on the color of the blood. Light scattering in the skin, and the visual processing of color play roles as well." "Skinks in the genus Prasinohaema have green blood due to a buildup of the waste product biliverdin."[/i]

Nuone

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 12:09 PM
Blood is never blue. Unoxygenated, it is a very dull brownish-red (as that found in veins). When well oxygenated, blood is a very bright head (like blood circulating in arteries). I am a phlebotomist.

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteMar-21-2012 12:12 PM
Thanks Nuone but I've already retracted my blue-blood position... that said I never knew oxygenated blood has a very bright head... LOL

alteredstate.

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 12:48 PM
Depending on when and how the trailer was captured and transferred etc i cant see there being a censorship issue as american's are not that anal in censorship. I suspect it could be a gamma calibration correction or like the difference between ntsc and pal where there are definite colour and contrast discrepancies . The latter is less likely but its something like that, not censorship i think. On closer inspection between the uk and international / usa trailer the light is darker in one of the images as well i think its a technical issue nothing more.

Smoke_Jaguar

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 1:08 PM
The baby savers might revolt they saw this trailer at their local harry potter screening. I came to this thread for the facehugger/chestburster discussion, although the "Blood Feud" proved much more interesting (calling staff members trolls was priceless). Anyway... The story so far...(speculation)...Holoway get's infected, balls Shaw, and Vickers demands operation on Shaw to extract specimen...Shaw wakes up when all hell is braking loose on the ship....Vickers bails out in the escape pod.... That would be it except we see the two of them on the ground when the ships are crushing around them, so again, it's all speculation.

reffugee

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 2:19 PM
The blood censorship was seen in two older threads, here is one: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/2096

alteredstate.

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 2:49 PM
Well its a little bit daft then when you consider the events leading up to this moment will be viewed by american audiences . Are we supposed to believe that blood is not associated with the birth/Cesarean Section process lol. I can understand it if its attached to a u film or pg audience related film but that's the only reason i can think of for the censorship discrepancy. The film itself will be identical to what we have here in the uk i think the planets a global village these days and we can purchase the films anywhere when they become available to buy so it makes no sense to impose censorship on western countries as most films now are region free distribution on blu ray etc . In the past i bought american dvd's and had a region free player simply because the extra features on a lot of american discs were much better or the sound was dts where the uk version was only dolby digital but on all of those occasions the film itself was the same. Now when i buy blue rays they are nearly all region free discs.

Atropa

MemberOvomorphMar-21-2012 4:48 PM
lol 2 trolls still trying to get my attention thats sad. *try getting girlfriends* looks like they scraped the bottom of the barrel for some of the staff, too bad too, the rest of them act like adults. anywhoooo about the blood and Csection topic altered meantioned, i would much rather see that then the natural human birth prossess, bleh! i have seen a lot of aliens and monsters born from human women in B movies but i dont think they have ever shown it done C section syle. still disturbing but much less gross in my book :) they love censoring blood in the USA, most of the anime's ive seen on daytime tv have had all of the blood completely erased, and if blood comes out of someones mouth they re-draw it to look like spit. blood bad, a big flemmy loogey is just fine. i miss living in england :/
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