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Origin of the original warning message intercepted by Nostromo...

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Casey'splastictorso

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 4:29 PM
Alright, So, I have this theory I’ve been playing with that I don’t thinks’ been examined. Let’s say for the sake of argument that this isn’t a direct prequel blah blah blah, as Sir Scott maintains. Okay. Fine. However, it may be and Ridley could very well be messing with is. It really doesn’t matter at this point. What matters is the Space Jockey. To further elaborate my point here simply by demonstrating that Ridleys' flat-out stated (in one of those interviews a few weeks back) that the only physical connective tissue of the actual movies, in any real form, is that Weyland is in the film and will go on to be half the namesake of the company we all love to hate, I think we’re left with a bit of BS [b]SOMEWHERE [/b]. Obviously, the Space Jockey is the real linear tie. Okay, to the meat of my point of this post as I’m digressing. Alllllll of the above in play and up for debate/conjecture, let’s talk message. That is to say, the original message picked up by the Nostromo in Alien. A series of clickidy audio-squirts with a strangely disjointed voice and a sudden scream/disconnect. Knowing what we know now about (or perceive to know from what’s been pieced together thus far from the trailer(s), we’re in all probability dealing with the potential (until verified in the absolute) for mutation either by/from/ for or , potentially, inTO the Space Jockey(s) by at least some or even several of the Prometheus crew. We don’t know really. But let’s say it happens. That in play, I’m gonna go out on a limb with the following neato theory for a “missing Link” that could potentially, physically bridge Prometheus (or any of it's potential cash-grabbing progeny) directly to Alien. The consideration…Unless it’s a freakin’ Space Jokey turned “hero” who’s fuzzy up’d and befriended the Prometheus crew (Think Sloth from The Goonies-unlikely as the Space Jockeys seem to be pretty much nefarious types with no redeeming values or known history of abuse by Italian opera singing brothers or criminally inclined parentage, bent on doing very bad things to just about everybody anybody and for pretty much reasons unknown, and really, from a layman's pov, the fact that they, again, just seem to demonstrate an overall nefariousness all around AS Space Jockeys in general), I don’t think such a Space Jockey would send a warning out to avoid at all costs the crash site/planet. Quite the opposite really. And in THAT case we could have an entirely NEW theory in which the sad result is that Ripley becomes "Class-A Cluster-F#ck, worst linguistics translator of the galaxy", and gets the reward from screwing up the message entirely, and pretty much lies at the heart of the blame for the unfortunate series of events she and her comrades wind up in in for the duration of the rest of the saga. The Space Jockeys sending out a warning, for all intents and purposes, would be a bit akin to a Black Widow Spider , perched in the center of her scary web, about to lure in her unsuspecting prey, while simultaneously swinging wildly those glowing-orange airplane guide-in cones they use on airport runways as the flights taxi in, while also standing under a 50 gigawatt sign, flashing in bright flaming letters, "DANGER- STAY THE F AWAY!". With an assumed, potentially nefarious type such as the Space Jockey...Just doesn’t seem logical. What DOES seem inherently logical however, in the little tangent universe I’ve created for myself here in this post, is that we’ve seen evidence of struggling against both outside forces and internal to external body/mind/purpose transformation/mutation by at least some of the crew. Even if we're taking as example here the sexy-underwear chick staggering through the halls and/or convulsing sweatily in front of the mirror with the veins type of struggle. Same thing. Doesn't have to be magnanimous. Just innate. The human nature (or indomitable human spirit-so common a theme of alien take-overs these days with regard to film heroes/heroins) fighting against, to the last breath in some cases (again, a running expectation in some age-old Sci-Fi tales), such hostile takeovers (nice WU business model tie in there lol) for the mere sake of one last act of their humanity. [b] So, I offer the following as my neato theory to connect Prometheus (or its’ sequels) directly to Alien… [/b] Whomever the Space jokey is/was from the original Alien, it’s one of the Prometheus crew (even if this film somehow spans into a Prometheus sequel, this could potentially happen in Ridley's and Giger's Mecha-Bizarro universe of Time and bat-shi!t crazy Space-plot devices and mind-freak conceptions to what rules, I don't know) that’s been mutated into its’ final form…with, however, perhaps just a strand (there's that the indomitable human spirit angle again) of it’s original holdover host DNA intact. Let’s call it the “F-You Space Jokey enslavers- N_ucleic A_cid molecule”. This molecule allows, in his/her/its' final moments, the crew member that’s been enslaved to the whim of the Jockey/God’s/whomevers by it's Space Jokey transmogrification , to, in one, final flipping-of-the-bird/self sacrificing recognition of his/hers original-but-quickly-fading, while-maybe-even-about-to-dually-chest-plode-while-this-is-all-simultaneously-happening-from-being-also-unfortunately-preggers-by-the first-potential-Zeno humanity, to sabotage the ship, and send the message out to warn anyone he/she/they should to stay the F away. Unfortunately two things happened to make this warning not so effective (aside from WU being somehow in on the whole thing which I find sort of somewhat convenient, but whatever). 1. The now almost-completely-Space Jokey-mutated-Prometheus crew member is now, also almost, as just stated, entirely Space Jokey. This coupled with the fact that he/she/it is now also unfortunately wearing his/her/it's weirdo, glued-to-the-large-phallic-chair, Space jockey suit; which I can only imagine would additionally make speaking normally a bit on the difficult side (WWw-va-fffck-ii-f-haffeng—oo-meee?!) all by and in and of itself what with the large nose trunk and rather limited range of glued-to-the-chair-range-of-motion in general... Okay, well, probably not because of the second part there, but you get my drift. Hence, even as he/she/it is , while still somewhere in the recesses of his/her/it's fast fading, leftover-human mind, thinking AS a former/ now almost barely human, on those innate, primal, "I'm still me under all these weird white bones in the chair" somewhat still existing human, “save the universe” or “at least my favorite pals from Earth” levels, unfortunately the Space Jockey transformation causes him/her/it to not be able to actually vocalize in the human tongue of his/her/it's original birth any longer. So there’s that. And 2. .. He he/she/it chest plods mid-message…bummer. The end. brought to you by the " OMG this movie is melting my brain and it's not even out yet!" corporation. No but seriously that's my theory...The Space Jockey who sent the original Message warning the Nostromo was a former Prometheus crew member.
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Marcus

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 4:45 PM
Ripley isn't at fault for the beacon translation she doesn't have a look at until Dallas, lambert and Kane are in the ship and even then she only thinks it could be a warning. Mother translates it first which means she could easily tell them it's a SOS call to serve the companys need to get back to planet

winbigler

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 4:51 PM
i just have to say that this is the most annoying post I've ever read. it would be at least half a page shorter and a lot less annoying to read if you cut out all the he/she/its, blah-blah-blah, and (yadda yadda yadda). that being said its still an interesting theory.

Casey'splastictorso

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 4:49 PM
[quote]Ripley isn't at fault for the beacon translation she doesn't have a look at until Dallas, lambert and Kane are in the ship and even then she only thinks it could be a warning. Mother translates it first which means she could easily tell them it's a SOS call to serve the companys need to get back to planet [/quote] Thanks for the clarification Marcus. I was sort of making a little trans-logic aside there. But yes, I would agree with you in that regard. ;)

ukalien

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 4:52 PM
I think david the android ends up in the chair, not sure for his reason but would be cool to think the xenomorph came from an android who's changing from contact with the green goo. has anyone seen this David 8 Android Unboxed Viral Video http://www.movieweb.com/news/prometheus-david-8-android-unboxed-viral-video

Casey'splastictorso

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 4:54 PM
[quote]i just have to say that this is the most annoying post I've ever read. it would be at least half a page shorter and a lot less annoying to read if you cut out all the he/she/its, blah-blah-blah, and (yadda yadda yadda). that being said its still an interesting theory.[/quote] Yes. That was , um, oh never mind. (sigh) [i]N[b]O[/b][/i]-body get's me. But thanks for the end part.

eighty-five

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 5:04 PM
I think it's highly plausible that David becomes sentient and wants to be human, akin to bladerunner, and decides to sacrifice himself in some way to prevent humanity's demise. After all, humanity is responsible for his existence. It's in keeping with Ridley's idea of where is the line between human and synthetic, emotion-wise.

Casey'splastictorso

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 5:06 PM
Like The Iron Giant..."You don't have to be a gun"... Um, like literally.

darkgrafix

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 5:19 PM
I'm still on the fence about it being either Shaw or Vickers in the SJ suit and getting into the chair after the (derelict) crashes and, not sure how, but ends up sending the transmission. David I'm thinking, is morphing into a bio-mechanical alien being and runs off. There's so much we don't know yet despite all the images we've seen.

red hood

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 5:30 PM
Man a long post my head hurts. Another big issue is with the notros blowing up. Landing / escape ship launches. Why would it take 50+ years to find? That mission was all cost bring back high priority. No google tracking on the ship?????? WTF busted! Poor Rippley just floating around on company time. Ship was on track for earth when notros blows. Escape ship would have been too.

Mr.J

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 5:50 PM
I found out who shot down the other Derelict in Alien... [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qWwVwbiwM9g/Teb-UEUURkI/AAAAAAAAFpw/Q_5tBasqHDc/s1600/Marvin%2526telescope.jpg[/img] I knew it....

JC

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 6:09 PM
Classic Weed-Rant. You know, like some people who get really drunk,pick up a Bible and start preaching? Geesh! My theory about the message is that it's not for human ears, and is not meant to warn the suits at the Company or the crew of the Nostromo away. The human that transforms into an Engineer is fully gone over to the other side by the end of the movie. More than likely, IT is sending a warning that a bunch of over-evolved Monkey-Men have come in and botched up their bio-engineering project, and to keep it from spreading to the Homeworld, all other Engineers should stay away. As a matter of fact, the dying Jockey probably has a shiat-eating grin on his face just as the chest-burster explodes because he knows that the humans are to stupid to just let things go and that they will be back in a few years for Round-2. Maybe they will actually get one back to Earth and screw themselves with it.

JC

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 6:12 PM
And Red Hood, i've wondered the same thing. Just how important is this Thing to the company? The Prometheus goes to get one, it disappears, and it's another 30 years before they send someone else out to get one. The Nostromo disappears, and the Company doesn't send anyone out to investigate what happened? Surely if they were interested enough, at SOME POINT in the whole 57 years they would get curious enough to check it out. Then (and as far as i'm concerned, it ain't even part of the story), they wait TWO-HUNDRED years to figure out that cloning Ripley from samples on Fiornia might get them an Alien? I think some holes at the Company need to be fired. They obviously lack a sense of urgency!

Mr.J

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 6:15 PM
There is a script for someone to write and fill the gap in the 57 years...surely, something went on.... and JC, I agree and willing to bet Holloway is key to this....

arcaneradio

MemberOvomorphMar-22-2012 9:28 PM
Marvin the Martian LOL "I'm going to destroy the earth, it obstructs my view of LV426" The Weyland Corporation "Let's send a ship to mars. If we had the illudium q-36 explosive space modulator, think of what that would do for our weapons division!" I smell another sequel.

Casey'splastictorso

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 10:00 AM
Hey guys (gals), Look, just for the record, I've been cruising this place for a few months and enjoy it thoroughly. I've read some of the replies to my thread here and just want to gently point out a couple things to my fellow Promethiphiles... While my theory was actual and legitimate as far as me deciding to make a post about it...the post itself was meant to be sort of... A JOKE... in its' format. I'm sorry some of you were annoyed and such. I thought it would be a fun exercise. This place is super serious and I decided to attempt to lighten the mood. I think the only one that got it was the guy with the Marvin the Martian post.
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