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It has to be LV-426....and that ship is the derelict...

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Here is my thoughts on why the planet they are on is LV-426/Acheron. The planetoid has a molten lava base, when it was visited by the nostromo. So who is to say that the planet in the time after the events of the Prometheus mission didn't under go severe geographic change? Perhaps certain events during the Prometheus mission caused those changes to happen. Maybe a self destruct sequence was activated to destroy where the derelict was stationed? Causing the faults in the area to have massive quakes, thus having the molten lava come to the surface making the land we see in Alien and Aliens? Constant eruptions on the planet and or in that area could cause what we see in Alien. The eruptions would deplete the atmosphere to the point it wouldn't be breathable to humans. As for some people saying that the ship trying to escape is NOT the derelict, doesn't make sense. I would see no viable reason for Ridley Scott to move away from the story of the derelict and LV-426. Those two things together would just mess up future events. Why would some people even want the movie to be on a different planet? I have always wanted to know more about the derelict and LV-426, that for me was one of the main reasons I watched the movies. Those two things themselves are what keeps bringing me back. Of course the space jockey, that is a no brainer. Well thanks for reading the rant.
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I think the main reason most people want this not to be LV426 and the derelict is because it would upset the whole alien universe as we know it from Alien on. I think true Alien fans want continuity if you're going to have a prequel. We want it to be true to the original. Just my thoughts on it.
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Ummmmmmmm no.
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[quote]I think the main reason most people want this not to be LV426 and the derelict is because it would upset the whole alien universe as we know it from Alien on. I think true Alien fans want continuity if you're going to have a prequel. We want it to be true to the original. Just my thoughts on it.[/quote] I don't see how this would upset the Alien universe. Even if it were LV-426 and that ship was the derelict, that in itself would be a true prequel. Changing the location and using a ship that looks like the derelict would be confusing and in itself that would upset the Alien story line. If that is what I am to understand what you wrote? [quote]Ummmmmmmm no.[/quote] What is that supposed to mean?
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It means that you are wrong. You are sooo wrong.
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LV426JGFPM
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How am I wrong? Elaborate....
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Listen to the start of [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-EZC5zn2Fk]this trailer. [/url] You're more wrong than she is.
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@LV426JGFPM I totally agree, there is no point in it being on a different planet, what are the chances this is going to happen on second planet? I am pretty sure those jars are Pandora's boxes, and opening one up without the knowledge required to make it function properly would set one hell of a catastrophe loose on the planet, it would actually be able to destroy the planet rather than terraform it.
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For one thing, take a look at the Space Jockey in the original movie and the room he is in and the platform and then look at the same location in the trailer, not the same by any means, Dallas says the Space Jockey is fossilized as well. If they want it to be the same, then it should be the same, wouldn't you think? Also time doesn't add up right, takes 5 years to get there in Prometheus, where as Dallas says they are halfway home and someone says 10 months out.
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Hmmm... From Weyland Industries website timeline: 2039: Discovery of Acheron LV-426 Weyland astronomers discover multiple moons and a ringed planet just outside the Zeta 2 Reticula System, which are possibly able to support life. Weyland expects to travel there within the century. 2073: Based on recent classified findings by Weyland researchers, the company determines the exact coordinates of a new destination for long-time pet project: Project Prometheus. New round of investment is immediately opened and mission planning enters full-swing. In Alien after they wake from interrupted hypersleep on the Nostromo and finding their position: Lambert: "I found it. Just short of Zeta II Reticuli. We haven't reached the Outer Rim yet." And we KNOW the Nostromo's course was altered AND Ash was replaced as science officer 2 weeks before the trip AND he had COMPANY ORDERS.
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@Alien Drone If these nano-bio thingies changes and mutates humans and androids, how difficult is it to imagine this would happen to the derelict? I think the derelict is the mother of all alien. If they are able to terraform a whole planet, it would easily be able to destroy the planet instead and change a small ship...
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From a writer standpoint, LV-426 poses both a lot of continuity problems and it has the classic prequel problems that we would have to know the state in which the movie will end. When we go back and look at Alien, LV-426 is unremarkable. It is the SJs, the derelict, and the Xenos that are interesting. In subsequent movies, we've explored the Xenos ad nauseum, but the origin of the derelict and the SJs have remained untouched. If we cast such a complex society on such a barren wasteland as LV-426, it really doesn't fit well. Why would they choose such a place as a base for anything? Secondly, that's just that much more that the Nostromo and, later, the colonists would have had to miss.
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The reason is pretty simple. The planet in Prometheus movie not same like Alien 1 and Alien 2. The derelisct also not same. The dead space jockey, walking towards console jockey and jockey alike in Prometheus ship also not same. There are many references in internet both are not same but all these happaned in Alien Universe.
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But the Prometheus mission a longterm goal according to Weyland Corp - and they are going to the Zeta II Reticuli system are they not? It is "possibly able to support life" around year 2073. And the Nostromo is near the Zeta II Reticuli system as stated in the movie in Alien many years later - year 2122. Also has been stated: "Mid 22nd century" Volcanic activity on LV-426 damages and partially buries the derelict spacecraft previously investigated by the USCSS Nostromo. The 'distress' signal the Nostromo were investigating is shut off. So maybe that's why the colonists didn't find it until Burke tells them to look in Aliens. Ripley gets back to gateway after drifting in space 57 years - year 2179. Same year that Burke told the colonists to look for the Derelict! (his report date is read out by Ripley in Aliens (6/12/79) So if it isn't the same planet, are we suggesting there are TWO derelicts in the Zeta 2 Reticuli system? WTF!
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This movie in NO way would alter the continuity of the what has already happened from ALIENS onward. This movie creates the "fork" in the road. Basically we can sit there and watch the movie and say "ohhh now I understand". At the same instance, understand now that Ridley Scott can totally take the story into a whole other direction. To think that Weyland-Yutani banked their whole project on Ripley (I mean chasing her down for its "weapon") is stupid in of itself. I am pretty sure that WY had other avenues and exploration in the works. I mean in total honestest, this movie could very well revive the franchise and help us forget about Alien 3 and Resurrection. @Slakkers I can totally understand you talking about those canisters being pandora's boxes. Those very well may be what the engineers designed to hold the first gen fasthugger. And what we see in Alien, in the egg area that KANE falls into is what of possibly could have been made by the Alien Queen that came from the Space Jockey. Cause from what I have read in several "Alien Anatomy" articles. The species of the xenomorph is able to change its sex to continue it's species. @Alien Drone [quote]For one thing, take a look at the Space Jockey in the original movie and the room he is in and the platform and then look at the same location in the trailer, not the same by any means, Dallas says the Space Jockey is fossilized as well. If they want it to be the same, then it should be the same, wouldn't you think? Also time doesn't add up right, takes 5 years to get there in Prometheus, where as Dallas says they are halfway home and someone says 10 months out.[/quote] Well, of course things are going to look a little different from a movie that is almost 33 years old. And fossilization isn't all about time, it also has to do with the environment that the bones are exposed to. And with the whole time from place to place, could be easily explained as to how far technology had changed from Prometheus and the Nostromo.
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@zzodr I think people are just having a hard time that the proof is staring them in the face. Either way you are pointing out some very good info!
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As for the whole travel time between earth and lv-426. http://time.absoluteavp.com/time2.html It states in the timeline that during the Mid 22nd century. Faster than light travel has been achieved or improved upon. You said it took Prometheus 5 years to get there. In the Alien realm, it states it took the USS Sulaco 3 weeks. So there is definitely some change in the technology area.
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I aggree that this has to be LV-426. Notice how the atmosphere is suddenly changing and Shaw is blown away by a powerful wind that looks awfully similar to that of the original Alien movie setting when the crew of Nostromo first set foot on the planet. Also notice in one of the trailers that the ribcage of the Space Jockey sitting in its chair is moving in a strange way, almost as if something is about to burst out from the inside just like it happened to the Space Jockey in the original Alien. And we do know for a fact that the derelect is going to crash on the planet. All this just seems too familiar to be a coinsidence. Also it makes more sense for Ridley Scott to take us back to where it all started than some unknown planet.
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I am in two minds whether or not this is in fact set on LV-426. During Ripley's corporate interogation by Van Lewen and the other suits he states "..you set down on LV-426, AN UNSURVEYED WORLD AT THAT TIME, for reasons unknown...." Either it is simply to his knowledge that it was unsurveyed or a Weyland-Yutani cover-up.
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From Wiki: "rewrites of Spaihts' script by Lindelof developed a separate story that precedes the events of Alien, but which is not directly connected to the films in the Alien franchise. [u]According to Scott, though the film shares "strands of Alien's DNA, so to speak", and takes place in the same universe, Prometheus will explore its own mythology and ideas. "[/u] It is NOT LV-426! There are Sjs, there are maybe things that grow inside you, there are maybe 'monsters', but that is it. Why can't that be accepted.
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From Wiki: "rewrites of Spaihts' script by Lindelof developed a separate story that precedes the events of Alien, but which is not directly connected to the films in the Alien franchise. [u]According to Scott, though the film shares "strands of Alien's DNA, so to speak", and takes place in the same universe, Prometheus will explore its own mythology and ideas. "[/u] It is NOT LV-426! There are Sjs, there are maybe things that grow inside you, there are maybe 'monsters', but that is it. Why can't that be accepted.

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