LV 462 talk

The planet in Prometheus cannot be LV-426! Van Lewen said in Aliens that LV-426 was an unsurveyed world at the time Ripley & Co arrived. And I for one believe him! Case closed!!

Company cover up, the SJs were in the middle of terraforming and after the human interruption things went south.

Because it's not LV-426.

My original theory is that some horrible disaster set of by the derelict caused the actual crust of the planet to get blown off, then the mantle would explode out hitting space and cooling instantly, causing the strange lave formations me see in alien in aliens, and then the old atmosphere and all the dust from the past crust get pulled back, making the new very dark atmosphere. and as much as i think this sounds awesome, and if done right would make one hell of a scene, there is one gaping plot hole with it, how is the derelict still okay?

See the topic, earlier, about LV-426 mutating. But don't tell Gocustard you looked at it

what makes you think so preston? didn't mean that in harsh way just want to hear your opinion

dropyourlinen could you give link to topic

@Preston yes it most certainly is, everything matches up perfectly with lv426, and if it wasn't lv426 then there is no point in making this a prequel to alien, change the ship design and take away the space jockey for a different alien.

@ukalien Sorry dude I don't know how to insert links. But the topic is easily recognisable - very long title, should be on same page as current topics, or one page backwards. Onlu topic title which mentions LV-426 mutating

@Ross You'd seriously believe a Company suit!?! He's basically from the same corporation as Ash and Burke!

@Ross your going to believe a guy from the company? just!!!!!!!! mjsdygcrbskjdgvykjhcj hbfa kerjfgvkhGSRVBGFjhB gjmfv nJHABZSKJGVBJHSDGBV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why?!?!?!? it is very apparent that they lie!!!! LIE!!!!!!! to cover up what happened and to get there hands on the alien!!!! and if it was an unsurveyed world then how did the company know about the ship?!?!?!?! sorry for being kind of mean, but any mention of it not being lv426 just kind of bothers me...... it should be the only fact really.

Dropyourlinen (nice name btw) my sarcasm is clearly lost on you! Obviously a cover-up. Prob someone of Van Lewen's pay grade would not have access to the truth though!! So he prob wasn't necessarily lying but the company was lying to Ripley through him.

@Ross, That was the company talking man. They were lieing. Considering that they worked for "The Company". It wouldn't make any sense to believe their bull. Plus you figure out that the Company was lieing to the Nostromo crew in ALIEN. Saying that the crews priority's were secondary to the Xenomorph and then MUTHUR saying, "Crew Expendable." The Company wants the Xenomorph for the bio-weapons division. Ripley emphasizes this many times throughout the series. Mainly in Alien 3. The Company would never let anybody interfere with their plans to subdue and capture the Xenomorph. Coporate Greed. Pretty nasty stuff.

There are people here who get really angry if you even suggest Prometheus is set on LV-426. I for one believe it's got to be. However, I am willing to admit there are obstacles to this theory: -different landscape and atmosphere -'daylight' - clear daylight here in the trailer, yet in Alien, even when the sun comes up, the sky is black -steam vents I personally believe the planet underogoes some kind of cataclysmic change. I could, however, be 'sooooooo wrong'..

The planet in Prometheus is not LV-426. Lindelof stated in an interview that a prequel are events that lead up to the beginning of the first story. Prometheus is not this. Although Prometheus happens a few years before Alien, the story line has followed a completely different path and away from Alien. Prometheus will not end where Alien begins. We're fooled by the images of the "derelict" ship crashing on the planet, but this is not the same ship from Alien! It is the same TYPE of ship, but not THE ship from Alien. This movie will develop a whole new mythos in the Alien universe! Very fun, very exciting indeed!! Think of all the new monsters that can be introduced from Giger's mind! Ooops, I wet myself.

"Van Lewen said in Aliens that LV-426 was an unsurveyed world at the time Ripley & Co arrived." Do we really think Weyland would have told anyone if they had surveyed LV-426? That colony was placed there with the intent that they would "accidentally" stumble upon the Aliens and therefore Weyland-Yutani had hosts to birth the ones they wanted. They knew what was going on there LONG before ALIENS as I'm sure the Prometheus story will validate.

Sorry Ross. I got you now. Sarcasm gets losts ometimes unless you can hear the person!

It IS exciting. Very exciting. But do you really think there will be two sghips crashing at the end of the day?

when it is lv-426, a possibility is that after the events of Prometheus the terraforming project just suddenly stops ( SJ are dead) and the whole planet decays.. till the Nostromo arrives..

@Galaxy Dave then how do you explain the fact that it is orbiting the same planet as in alien? and like i said, if it isn't a true prequel to alien, then why use the same imagery like the derelict and space jockey? why not just make a whole new movie with its own universe instead of nailing it to alien? if it is a different ship and does not explain anything to the back story of alien, then i will be pissed off that they used stuff from alien without doing anything with it.

The planet could of changed quite a bit by the time the Nostromo got there. I mean the Space Jockey was fossilized into the chair and its bio mechanical suit when Dallas and Lambert were observing it. The Space Jockey's could of been terraforming the planet and when Prometheus wiped out the derelict, its terraforming stopped. Thus the planet just became a big rock.

Q: Does it rule out doing an actual Alien prequel? DL: No, I don’t think it does. I think that there might actually be people out there who watch Prometheus and say, “This is an Alien prequel” but it’s a prequel in sort of a different sense than I’m used to. Isn’t it more interesting to think of a movie that takes place in the Alien universe, there are some familiar things that you will see along the way but if there were a sequel to Prometheus, it would not be Alien. That to me had to be the goal. God willing, if Prometheus is successful, and there is a sequel, it won’t be Alien because the end of this movie, if this movie is A to Z, Z is not there’s a bunch of eggs laying on the floor of LV-426. Z in this movie is entirely different although people will watch this movie and say, “I feel like I have a different contextual framework now for the original Alien, I’m going to watch it again. I feel like I know a little bit more than I knew before.” http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/comic-con-2011-exclusive-damon-lindelof-talks-prometheus-makes-peace-with-lost-fans/

Just a correction -—- we are talking about lv426 from alien. If it is lv426 tho it might not have human friendly atmosphere, it probably has different seasons. Maybe prometheus is during a different season than Nostors

Well, if it's not LV-426, what I really want to know is, how does the ship on LV-426 get there? Does it lift off from one of the other 4 temples? Are there two crashed derelicts in the fullness of time?

Q: Does it rule out doing an actual Alien prequel? DL: No, I don’t think it does. I think that there might actually be people out there who watch Prometheus and say, “This is an Alien prequel” but it’s a prequel in sort of a different sense than I’m used to. Isn’t it more interesting to think of a movie that takes place in the Alien universe, there are some familiar things that you will see along the way but if there were a sequel to Prometheus, it would not be Alien. That to me had to be the goal. God willing, if Prometheus is successful, and there is a sequel, it won’t be Alien because the end of this movie, if this movie is A to Z, Z is not there’s a bunch of eggs laying on the floor of LV-426. Z in this movie is entirely different although people will watch this movie and say, “I feel like I have a different contextual framework now for the original Alien, I’m going to watch it again. I feel like I know a little bit more than I knew before.” http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/comic-con-2011-exclusive-damon-lindelof-talks-prometheus-makes-peace-with-lost-fans/

I'd be tempted to say 'well, hell, maybe Prometheus will be completely unrelated to Alien, and good on Ridley for doing something completely new'. But the key factor for me is that it's the same system. Ringed planet 'n' all. LV-426 or not LV-426??!!?? AArrgghhh!

It's not LV-426. How do I know this? Because the guy who wrote the script said so.

It's not LV426 we already know this, Ridley stayed away from the Alien storey, thus to give something brand new with "strands" of Alien DNA as we have heard so many times. To tie it in directly with Alien and Aliens on the same planet would just take away so much from the original storey line that we know and love, would probably bring up more questions than answers. This is an entire new storey within what we know already, but not taking away the fact that we already have experienced several films ( good or bad ) what the "alien" is all about. We have seen already a new "being" and a probable alien on a wall or it could be on the ceiling " Prometheus are you seeing this?" but the planet is Zeus 2 ( correct me if I'm wrong) which is a entire new planet. Our "gods" ( in the film ) landed there and we stumbled acorss a invitation that was miss-read on Earth resulting in "US" finding something we shouldn't have but geared for us to actually do so, due to your technology at the time and then "we" put the entire Earth at jepardy !!! Trust me it's not LV426 !!!! We will see something like the Xenomorpth in the film but a new weapon that our "gods" have made or had tried to achieve, but "we" tamper with it and make what is the demise of our "gods" and potentially ours too, until we intervein. However Weyland Corp IS always watching and thanks to the "suit" who we all know who it is and David 8, is ALL recorded and sent back to Earth. Nothing escapes them and then sparks the real search for the ultimate BIO-WEAPEN !!! NO it's not GUYVER !!!! lol

Ok, now listen UP!! I want you people to put down the bongs and stop smoking the sticky icky. Those canisters they find in Prometheus, yes could very well be the "first" generation face hugger container. You also have to remember Kane, Lambert and Dallas did NOT do a full on exploration of the derelict. They saw the space jockey, then Kane notices an opening in the platform. Kane sees an area filled with thousands of eggs. Now who is to say the Alien that busted through the space Jockey didn't become a queen in order to prolong the species and laid those eggs in their natural lathery sacks? It is just amazing how some people on these forums are just horrified at the possibility that the movie takes place on LV-426 and that ship is in fact the Derelict from Alien. I am going to enjoy the moment when all this comes true, so I can come back here and say I TOLD YOU SO!! But there is always the off chance, I will get the same treatment. In either event this movie will still be amazing and may even turn out better than what we expected. I just love the dialog we are all having. It is all in good fun.

Ah, takka_takka_takka! I've missed you - the dry voice of reason

[quote][i]But the key factor for me is that it's the same system. Ringed planet 'n' all.[/i][/quote] In an infinite universe the possibility of similar looking planets...not unlikely. Unless Scott or Lindelof mentioned somewhere it is the same star system, which I haven't heard or read.

[quote][i]become a queen in order to prolong the species and laid those eggs in their natural lathery sacks?[/i][/quote] The queen was an invention by Cameron, not Scott.

It's Zeta Reticuli! It say's so on the Weyland Yutaini website?? (I'm pretty sure it does)?

why does everyone say that Cameron's ideas are not cannon? now i can understand not liking it (i mean i love it but still) but that does not make it not cannon. like i said, there are more relations to aliens then there is alien. and if aliens is not cannon..... then why add the D on the end of weyland?????

Just because Cameron created the queen still doesn't mean it couldn't have existed in Alien... Just because you never see a queen in Alien doesn't mean there never was one.

[quote][i]why does everyone say that Cameron's ideas are not cannon? now i can understand not liking it (i mean i love it but still) but that does not make it not cannon. like i said, there are more relations to aliens then there is alien. and if aliens is not cannon..... then why add the D on the end of weyland?????[/i][/quote] [quote][i]Just because Cameron created the queen still doesn't mean it couldn't have existed in Alien... Just because you never see a queen in Alien doesn't mean there never was one.[/i][/quote] Ridley Scott has been quoted as saying he enjoyed Aliens, but that does not make Cameron's ideas canon to Alien/Prometheus. You can't pick and choose. If Aliens is canon 'just because', then 3/Resurrection/AvPI&II would then be too. Judging by the direction Prometheus is taking, the Queen is definitely not canon because all that does is strip the Xenomorphs down to nothing but alien cockroaches.

@Sigismundo please i don't want to get in this again, go read the big discussion on the alien discussions page called "alien vs aliens" should be about half way down. and i think that 3 is cannon, i dont think resurrection is because it changed it to almost a dark comedy, and if it is cannon it really doesn't matter anyway, but AvP is 100% not cannon, they are based on the comic books, not the actual alien and predator movies, that makes them there own separate cannon. and there is nothing in Prometheus that says there cant be a queen. in fact it makes the possibility for a queen even more open, because yeah they wont explore that, but it is about mutation and the miss use of bio tech correct? with that the possibility is open for anything including a queen forming in the mix. and why do people hate the bug idea so much????? IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BUG LIKE IN THE FIRST MOVIE!!!!!!!!! and what do you think is the most successful species on the planet is???? you can bet your ass its not us!!!!! just go crack open a termite hill and watch how effective they are.

I don't think it's LV-426. In Zeta-Reticuli and in Alien, there are other planets that are seen in the space shots. Also - if Prometheus ends with the Derelict (Bone-ship) set up for Alien - then there won't be the possibility for a Prometheus sequel - and that would be true disaster. So then, why is this movie about the Space Jockey and why is the ship here? Why not just create another story and be done with it? BECAUSE Ridley Scott said he always wanted to go back and tell the SJ story. That is what Prometheus is about. It does not matter to me if it or any sequels tie directly into Alien. I'm excited about the 'new series' in any case... TM5

Well who is to say that the "engineers" didn't foresee the byproduct of creating a weapon that evolved. They may have intended to create the xenomorph to do its planet "cleaning" but maybe their weapon wanted to continue on its own. The Space Jockey race may be more advanced than the humans, but that certainly does not make them perfect.

@T-Minus-Five yeah but he wanted to explain the story of the space jockey in alien, and if its not the same jockey, THEN WHATS THE POINT? P.S. when i use CAPS thats not me yelling, its me exaggerating so dont worry, i am not fighting with anybody when i do that lol :D