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Do we really need another annoying 'Archaeology' guy

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the coming

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:35 PM
this is a bit of a rant, but I have taken an instant dislike to Archaeology boy from the trailer...to me he looks very much like the guy from AVP...the mediterranean looking expert on inca symbols etc.....I just hope he doesnt utter a cliche line like 'in my village they call it the chupacabra' Second thing I don't like is the way he is doing the minority report thing, and his motions are just completely over the top and annoying, more so than Tom Cruise..I just find this guy is going to be an irritation akin to a child actor... the silly scarf just tops it off he reminds me of one of those snobby Londoners who think they are graphic designers because they bought an Apple MAC
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craigamore

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:41 PM
The archealogy comparison to AVP bothered me as well.....I'm trying to reserve judgement until after I see the film.....trying VERY hard....

pvt.Wierzbowski

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:50 PM
The archaeology thing seems to be Lindelof style. I just hope the Prometheus big human face and the four toed huge stone leg from the "Lost" are not connected. The proportions seems to be suspiciously similar :-)

Kronik

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:58 PM
As long as it doesn't end up as Lost... in Space. Hey, see what I did there? : )

Jim100a100

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:58 PM
thankfully I haven't seen any of the AVP's..but, he hasn't annoyed me yet, as he seems a somewhat decent actor. lol on the display gizmo lifted straight out of Minority Report. Is this tech supposed to be the right around the bend, cause I don't see it happening quite yet! at least there wasn't classical music playing in the background as he was "conducting"

RaymondKnight

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 12:59 PM
Yeah I felt the same way when I saw the trailer. But when I watched the UK trailer it made me feel better about it, seemed more realistic. Hopefully they will go more in depth with explaining things instead of the super revealing one-liners. They probably spent so much time figuring out how to make you feel like you know what is going to happen from watching the trailers to help market it to the masses, so that everyone will be completely unprepared when they go into the theatre.

craigamore

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 1:01 PM
True....RaymondKnight....true

the coming

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 1:14 PM
I don't like sexy people in movies..there are too many calvin klein models in this movie..There wasn't anyone attractive in 'Alien' except for maybe Ripley a little bit, but that's what made it realistic....sexy people=marketing for teens=bad movie

royal-jelly

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 1:56 PM
maybe the idea of having these "sexy" characters is to throw us off and surprise us. the beautiful characters will eventually turn to something else or die horribly. remember, it's suppose to be a NASTY movie.

Ruth

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 2:08 PM
I find these actors "sexy" in a different way. Yes, almost everyone of them is pretty, they have interesting faces IMO, but their beauty isn't that typical or doll-look like lots of actors/models in these days. For example, Megan Fox and so on. If saw her in such movie I'd start laughing my ass off. And I agree with @royal-jelly, this movie will have to shock us in some way. So none of the actors annoy me.

dallas!dallas!

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 2:20 PM
@the coming You are exactly right, my friend. Actually, none of the first three movies had GQ types in them. And now, we have the most beautiful people on the universe going to find the mysteries of our beginning in a (possible) PG-13 movie. No, I think they are cast simply because they are sexy. They may be good actors too but they just have to be sexy. It is just the time we live in. The 60s and 70s rebelled against that type of casting but it returned in the 80s (thankfully, Cameron still cast believable faces in Aliens); that is that. Rapace is Weaver-like in having an original look, but where are the Skerritts and Kottos and Paxtons and Durnings? Where the hell is my Harry Dean Stanton!!!???

Microsis

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 2:35 PM
@dallas!dallas! PG-13? I don't think so. To the whole sexy people comment... again I don't think so. Take another look.

the coming

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 3:08 PM
@dallas I'm glad we agree...we are 80s men (I think)...this new age 'formulaic' marketing approach to everything just stinks.It insults my intelligence, and the transformers mainstream lap it up...I will definitely see this movie but it is treading on very thin ice with me... The sexy people from GQ I can accept, Fassbender has an arthouse quality, but if it is a PG, then Ridley better have that unrated version on the ready or I will turn Mark David Chapman on his ass...

Casey'splastictorso

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 3:11 PM
Yes...yes we do. I like the greasy haired, snobby Euro-trash crew-member angle. They generally serve as the "red shirt" cast members of any franchise.

Famished

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 3:19 PM
Archaeologists and good looking people? Are you seriously nitpicking this stuff? Relax a little. Look at the entire cast. Enjoy the film. I don't see the issue at all, but if you want to get crazy about analyzing it, recall that the life expectancy is 95. With advances in health technology, people are going to be better looking, and for a longer span of time.

dallas!dallas!

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 3:24 PM
Microsis, I hope you are right. I truly do. the coming, yes, an 80s man and again we agree. I think the actors cast do have that arthouse quality (I think you put into words what I was trying to say about Rapace). Ahhh Mark David Chapman, I hope Prometheus is not Scott's Double Fantasy. I wonder if Lennon would have liked Alien? I saw an old interview where he stated his love for EC comics/Tales from the Crypt. A fact that gave him much higher stature in my eyes.

the coming

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 3:41 PM
I thought Lennon was shot in 1980, so he might have seen it no? need to check the dates..although I'm sure he was too busy to goto the movies, probably lived a completely different life @famished..yes these things bother me...The last person I need going Michael Bay on my ass is Ridley Scott...but like I said in another thread it is definitely a brave and original film, I just hope he goes all out, but I can sense the suits are killing his raw creativity with their marketing formulas

Famished

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 4:41 PM
Michael Bay? I don't think what you have here is even close to that extreme example. Every indication from every interview Scott has done, would imply that he chose who to cast, and was very selective about it. This wasn't some casting by a committee of producers. It's Scott wishing to achieve exactly what he hoped to. Nothing more, nothing less, and if both Theron and Fassbender turn out to be synthetic, the argument falls completely flat. Rapace, maybe, but she's definitely not mainstream sex appeal. Again, if you look at the cast, pretty typical to films over many decades. Michael Biehn? Harrison Ford? Daryl Hannah, Sean Young? etc. You are welcome to your opinion, but it sounds like comic shop cynicism to me.

the coming

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 5:51 PM
ok it's just scarf boy then...he has that Justin Long quality that is irritating me before I've even seen the movie..as I said before too close to the AVP guy...please take off that bloody scarf this is the Alien universe not some Jean Paul Gaultier parade yes I am cynical but only because it is important to criticise art for it to be good...Otherwise you are one of those mothers on X-Factor who think their fat ginger overweight kids can become superstars.. I don't appreciate blind positivity, you don't appreciate cynicism...we have balance in the force

Famished

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 9:20 PM
[quote][b]ok it's just scarf boy then...he has that Justin Long quality that is irritating me before I've even seen the movie..as I said before too close to the AVP guy...please take off that bloody scarf this is the Alien universe not some Jean Paul Gaultier parade[/b][/quote] Ha! This cracked me up, and yeah, definitely agree with that. I guess there is a possibility that the character gets a lot of grief from some of the others, but it's hard to define the character and relationships of this crew from what we have seen. Mostly, I guess, I'm excited by the quality and thought put into everything we have seen so far, with my biggest hurdle always being the composites and movement of anything CGI. With that pretty much settled in my mind, I'm optimistic, and can manage through a lot of the small stuff. With story, it's always character motivation that pulls me out of a film. I don't care where a story goes as long as it has a reason to go there, as long as the characters have reason to do what they do. Just want a thoughtful film, and I'm thinking that may be the case. Hope so. Can't wait. Feel like I've been waiting forever for this type of SF film.

Gehirn

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 9:52 PM
[quote]the silly scarf just tops it off he reminds me of one of those snobby Londoners who think they are graphic designers because they bought an Apple MAC[/quote] HAHAHA I know, right? Benedict Wong should be [url=http://www.aveleyman.com/ActorCredit.aspx?ActorID=38951]an interesting benchmark[/url] too because in Sunshine he was a crater-face. In fact, that's what I loved about that movie, all the actors had very little makeup. You could see people with their pale skin and droopy eyes. Y'know like real astronauts. I fear Ridley is neglecting this immersive aspect. I HATE that Bold and the Beautiful look. It's impossible to associate with these people. Especially the scarf-wearers!

alteredstate.

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 9:54 PM
I agree with the majority here that the cast look to polished and primed. I would of love to seen some more down to earth people cast for this in terms of looks its all very Chiseled and clean and a bit G Q. It really could have been a bit more laid back in the looks department to be even more authentic . Then again if you go to far the other way you have alien 3, with lots of bald brits doing cringe worthy bad cockney east ender impressions and us poor brits get that everyday in a soap called east enders which makes alien 3 look like a nice summer vacation.

Biehn_Bandit

MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 11:39 PM
Skerrit is homely? (well, haircut wasn't doing him any favors) Mom won't like to hear that. Anyway, the Prometheus cast isn't that pretty to me. Rapace - isn't homely, but not a babe either, by conventional standards. An acquired taste (digging her toned body though), Mohawk dude - Trying hard to be a hip character, but looks possibly unhygenic, lol. Kate Dickie - would fit right in with the cast of Alien Fassbender - android. Looks a bit wierd and off-putting in this film though Theron - The corporate world seems to attract many fine looking women. Could be an android too Elba - handsome, but in a down to earth way, not a stretch for a captain Security guys firing guns - normal looking blokes Guy Pearce - Vain, corporate alpha male archetype. Alot of time and money into appearance. Like a more successfu and stable Patrick Bateman. Not a stretch. That leaves Logan Green as the only conspicuously pretty character. and even that may be a stretch according to women's/men's taste.

dallas!dallas!

MemberOvomorphMar-27-2012 12:50 AM
I haven't been in a comic shop in a long time but happily admit to being a cynic when it comes to pop culture. But I'm an ugly old fart so there you go. It's why I like Alien and Aliens and even Alien 3 on some days. Don't take that away from me!!! Steve Buscemi as David Paul Giamatti as Holloway Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Weylan Kate Winslett as Shaw Morgan Freeman as Janek That girl from American Beauty as Vickers Now that's a cast!

mlb127

MemberOvomorphMar-27-2012 3:55 AM
Also in reality,for a long space flight,the crew would need to be young.Mid to late 20's.Plus,I think Fassbender is too obvious to be evil.Perhaps all of us fanboys are being misled,the reason for a sudden rush of trailers.But the cool part about all of this is that all of us are getting our moneys worth,sad we have nothing better to do,but the film IS keeping us entertained.

the coming

MemberOvomorphMar-27-2012 6:22 AM
yes that's it Logan Green..I think he needs to go back to making Buffie the Vampire Slayer episodes..and if Ridley insists he stays in Prometheus then please at least TAKE OFF THE SCARF! as you can see I have deep rooted issues about men and scarves...how about a nice blade scar around the throat like Highlander? that would be an upgrade On a separate note I love the facial tattoo guy, he should be cliche but something about him is really cool I think...he looks like he came from the Blade Runner universe

Gehirn

MemberOvomorphMar-27-2012 2:42 PM
[url=http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/04/30/97-scarves/]Stuff White People Like: #97 Scarves[/url] Good read! LOL

MU-TH-R 182

MemberOvomorphMar-27-2012 2:57 PM
If anyone is has any doubts about this movie and its cast, fear not. Having immersed myself in all things Prometheus over the last few weeks, I was reading this thread when the trailer for "Battleship" comes on the telly. Puts it all into a very sharp perspective Seriously guys, we have nothing to worry about.

dallas!dallas!

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 11:19 AM
@alteredstate To quote a famous guy, "You do it first, then someone else does it pretty."
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