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Galzu

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I've been fleshing out my thoughts during the ARG stall and wanted to get everyone's take on them. Follow with me. I theorize, the Jockey race consists of 2 types of beings. Engineers and Jockeys. The Engineers are the creators and use the saucer type ships for terraforming. The Jockeys use the U shaped Ships as "bombers" for cleanup,defense, and destruction (entropy). We could even go as far to say that the Engineers created the Jockeys for the same purposes humans created Androids. At some point a group of Jockeys revolt and begin doing their own thing. They come to Earth ( a planet previously terraformed and life established by the Engineers) and create/modify creatures in order to produce humans, in their own image. The Engineers find out and send non dissenting jockeys to wipe them all out because of this "corruption". The Lead Rogue Jockey is punished but humans manage to surive the "flood". (the Ark). This is mirrored in the Sumerian Creation and Deluge Histories between the Annunaki and their Igigi (the watchers (also known as "Pilots"). The humans are wiped out along with the Hyrid Igigi/human offspring. This is similar to the prometheus myth and the war between the Gods and Titans. What i believe will happen is that Weyland will do to the "Fallen" Jockey what it did the to the Engineers, and David will do the same to Weyland. Its possible we may see an Engineer, a Jockey, a Proto Xeno, Human and Android hybrids respectively. I believe the Xeno is the complete corruption of All the dna's spliced together. The one thing im confused about is why the Jockey on the planetoid in the movie is just staying there. He can obviously leave in his ship.....and the dead bodies laying everywhere....i guess he just doesnt care about it......It might be that He is actually a xeno/SJ hybrid and not a "full blood" Engineer/Jockey. Similar to Alien 4, He is the "newborn" that killed everything on board.
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cool school of thought....but I think everything emerges from the goo in the vials/urns, like the one David is opening...I think space jockeys/xenos/others yet to be seen emerge from this substance...I think the sj's are designed to materialize from a version of the goo or some other shapeless substance....notice in one of the trailers there is a slug like creature invading either the arm of someones spacesuit or it is slithering into one of the two statues pictured behind Shaw in one of the production stills, anyway whatever is slithering is the weird blue like to two humanoid giants, also I seem to think that the two "statues" become animated....if it invades the spacesuit then maybe the person inside is altered, if its the statue maybe it comes to life...along this train of thought, remember the suit on the sj appears to be closing around whoever is seated in that seat....think biomechanoid, a mixtue of organic and mechanical, like the xenos... also in the trailer there are two upright bipeds, also there are two biped statues, I think the vials are intended to be benevolent- unless tampered with!!! then it may become a destructive force, so that if living creatures are infected and mutated...it would ultimately destroy all the infected...think about the tagline for the movie "search for our beginning could lead to our end"....think primordial ooze....intended to create life from the elements...but can infect the existing...the sj's may view the prometheus crew as a threat to their original plan on earth, they may be headed to earth to prevent a genetic plague....since they are more advanced, maybe they would have no problem annhilating earth to prevent an unintended freakshow- by wiping the slate clean and starting over......also, I think there is another step in the heirarchy of creatures, I dont think we will see the gods or engineers, I think the sj's were designed to serve...also this would leave alot to mystery about the next step up in the order of lifeforms...this would be a similar mystery like the one we were left with in ALIEN....we may find out what the sj's are in this movie, but we still might be left wondering who made them.....just a very long thought.....whew
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Where exactly did we come up with the idea that engineers and SpaceJockeies are separate races? I've never seen evidence of that myself and, at this juncture, especially since the recent trailer releases, see it being more logical that our blue guy is both enginner and Jockey.....they are one and the same. SpaceJockey was simply a term that came of the original filming of 'Alien' and has been slang for our fossilized friend ever since as we've lacked a better term. The appearance of the term enigneer would seem to be an attempt to name the Jockies apart from slang used to refer to them in fan conversation....
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Think of it more of a pedigree, or a job title. In Essence they are the same beings, but the same way a "perfect" android is to a human. The Jockeys are Biomechanical versions of the engineers themselves. We are a lesser organic versions of the Jockeys, and androids are the bio-synthetic versions of us. Im just drawing from the trailers and ancient mythologies. In the trailer we see the saucer ship during the terraforming. Plus throughout all of history we have legends of a creation exceeding the creator only to have the same fate replicated against themselves. Plus with the rolling out of david 8...weyland is pretty much challenging his makers....Ridley has stated the whole movie is about Defiance, inferring a duality. This would extend to the Jockey's fate as well. To congrue with your post...our Blue guy might not be a true engineer...but more of a "jockey" playing engineer, hence the horror. The Mad Scientist.
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Galzu, I think you made a very good point. Tip o' the hat to you.
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*points, you got me though!
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Here's one thing: Unless the space jockey suits are extremely flexible, the bald blue guys, if they're all built the same, there is no way they're fitting into those slim SJ suits. The decapitated SJ body we see is much slimmer than the blue guys. I've had the notion of warring factions on my mind for the past week. I believe there are the less malevolent jockies, and a more aggressive faction. I believe the one blue guy in the map room with David is helping him in some way. There also may be one super being that is killing/has killed some of the SJs.
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I said before that maybe the Space Jockeys are a Waring Race. We have two sides, just as we have USA and USSR in the Cold War. The Alien is a Bio Weapon in which case the Organism in Alien may look different to this movies when we actually see all of it. Just as a AK47 and M16 look different but are made from simular materials and perform the same task. We could see a looking different Organism thats made from same Materials (DNA) to perform a simular Task. Think Bio Weapon Alien Xeno vs Prometheus Xeno to maybe Earth Weapons M16 riffle vs AK47

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