disappointed with the Space Jockey...

I'm glad Space Jockey we see in 'Alien' is just a suit. To me, the 'Alien' franchise universe is very grounded and [almost] everything we've ever been presented in the original 3 films has a very tangible explanation. An elephant-esque species just seems too of a the George Lucas universe and not that of what we've seen before. I also, love it when the 'rug gets pulled from under us' and what we thought we knew ends up being a 'wow, I never thought of it like that' moment..... It's what makes good movies better. Also, by doing the 'it's a suit' way, you open up the opportunity for a whole new universe of ideas and possibilities. I understand why Scott & Company keep trying to say it's not a prequel.... it's not trying to directly tie into 'Alien'.....it's just saying there's a six degrees of separation to the 'Alien' films. The 'suit' is one of those ties.

yes i do indeed :( i hate the new take on this alien............. just one problem with your post though, "actually some sort of armoured suit like Tron" what the hell does that mean? lol :D

I'm giving Ridley a chance on this...I'm with you on this but give the artful dodger a shot here. I never expected a revisit to this mystery either..go ahead Ridley, you're on!

Im in two minds. It is a shame that the mystery is gone, but at the same time Im really looking forward to know more about them. Hopefully I like what is given. And if I dont, I will just somehow force myself to view prometheus space jockeys as completely different to the one seen in Alien.

I totally agree with the coming on this one,I also thought the jockey was some sort of being and not just a suit,but let's just Waite and see what the movie brings.

Well, I dont by it at all... I posted this in other topics, but my take is that the SJ's are NOT even the MASTERS, but are in fact subservant slaves to something altogether different... the "Blue Meanies" hahaha (in other words... the giant Humanoid head statue) I think there are in fact 2 species and the SJ's look very much like their "exo" appearance underneath... but as in the greek myth.. they are also like Titans but "disgruntled" ones. It is actually the SJ's who are the literal "Prometheus" of the myth and its they who are to be punished for what they have done... which is provide us with knowledge we were never supposed to have. But of course, we by extension will have to go down to. But thats just me.

@invader the suit from Tron Legacy, segments kind of fold away, I believe a similar effect is used in the trailer for like 1/2 second

I agree that (on what we have seen so far) the SJ could be a let down. I write these words carefully knowing that many will not agree, as the film is not released and non of us know for sure what the SJ will actually look like. However my basic concern stems from the fact that the whole 'suit' concept has always left me cold. As far as I am concerned the Nostromo crew found a skelelton, NOT a suit. Just look at the damn thing, it is a fossil and being a fossil makes it so much more intriguing. The idea that this ultra advanced being has been dead for thousands (or millions?) of years in the depths of space, probably light years from home, makes the human condition seem totally small and insignificant. The universe is ancient and the premise of finding a fossilised alien out there, somewhere, is genius. The concept of putting a humanoid being in an exotic suit is not so clever, IF of course that is what happens in the film? I will happily eat my words if I am wrong about this.

I would be disappointed if I was for sure that the SJ from Alien is in Prometheus. But I"m not, so I'm not.

I think the idea is actually very interesting. The only mistake i think is in the Trailers they should have left out the chair raising scene, or edit it. Because its from this that we see the Blue Guy. If we had not seen that, then we would have thought the Space Jockey was going to be a Creature but then when we saw the movie it would be a suprise or shock and make us go WTF! Same goes for maybe the scene where we saw Shaw have Squidy pulled out, thats a bit of a spoiler aswell. Either Ridley may have given too much away, or he knew about what he wanted to show in the Trailers because he has plenty more suprises in store for us and ones that maybe be a complete shock to what we may now assume is going on.

I'm not looking at the trailers and leaked/official images anymore because I'm certain they're not going to tell us something I can piece together when at the same time Scott and Lindelof are telling us nothing!! hahaha Actually, they're telling us the themes and concepts in a deliberate abstract way and also some definite facts, but not enough to go on. But I will put my money on an R rating.

i just read tonight...........Right on

@snugs Yes thats one good point, not the point of the SJ in Alien being a creature, it could still be a Big Man in Space suit thats fossilised. (explain latter). But indeed the mystrey that what ever he/it was it seemed as though he had been there a lot longer than 37 years. I am sure that Ridley and others behind the film hinted the Jockey could be a suit way before this movie and like before even Alien 3 etc. The explanation i have if indeed SJ is the same type and thus Blue Man in Space Suit, is that there Technology etc is all Bio Mechanical meaning Organic. Just as a Snails Shell is, Just as a Tree is, and thus a old Log is a dead peice of what was once a living tree. Thats whats happened here the SJ has become mummified. Or to maybe explain Chest Burster, the SJ may have been stuck to his chair by a Alien Organism just as how the Xenos used to fuse/cacoon its victims on the walls so they can not move while the Chest Burster grows inside them. Maybe thats why he looks more attached to the chair, and as both the Suit and Material the Xenos use to Cacoon people are Organic it will eventually die and fossilise/mummifiy. Thats my take and one that i think after the film is out Ridley will explain has happened. Again i could be completely wrong on that.

@snugs yes the original space jockey is a species in my opinion too..It makes a silly impractical suit...I know they like biotech but why choose the elephant design, and the breathing apparatus will need to be explained too for any credibility to be given to it someone earlier mentioned Ridley imagined it to be a suit all along, dating back to 'Alien', is this true? I will forgive the suit idea IF once the suit is worn, it then becomes a new species, basically a deep fusion of Quan Chi from Mortal Kombat *cough* excuse me the Space Jockey and the chair/suit but overall cannae wait, just dont go Reloaded on us please god

Take what Ridley Scott says with a grain of thought. He thinks Deckard is a replicant too. But think about this, can you see the muscular blue guy fitting into one of those slim suits? Unless the blue guys come in different body types, like regular people, that skinny SJ corpse on the floor in the ampule room could be another race or species in the suit.

Indeed.... See this thread [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/2743&page=3]Head/Mask Debate[/url] You have to remember that nearly all things none Human in the Alien movie and Aliens are all based and finished products look simular to ones in the Art Works of HR Giger. Look at the Alien Cycle Artwork, and tell me does that look like a Suit? It does and while the Jockey in Alien looks different to this Artwork, take a look at the one in Prometheus and you can see its near the same idea.

I agree with AlsoKnownAsNate, the Alien universe is tangible and grounded. Ridley Scott said he believes in the theory of other lifeforms not exactly like humans but [i]similar[/i] in the universe, so the Blue Guys we see in the trailer make sense. Rather they be mankinds creators, or a step between mankind and its creators.

@Biehn_Bandit....so glad you brought Deckard up cos I was looking for an opening on that myself. I go years and years loving that movie and out of nowhere all of a sudden Deckard is a replicant.....like, POOF..he's a replicant, just like that. Harrison Ford says hold it not so fast...no way I played a replicant. So on this movie I'm not so surprised at this seemingly sudden new view that has surfaced about the Space Jockey. My take on Deckard The Replicant is that Ridley may have wanted Harrison to play the role as a replicant, but Harrison refused...and he had the star power to refuse and saw how it wouldnt work. So years later Ridley( stubborn bugger that we love) tried to sneak it anyway. The tension and clashes between those two is part of film history now. I have an even further theory on why Ridley was so hardheaded about this and like the Deckard replicant theory, its probably been thought of before....a crafty in-movie plug for "Legend"

I have to say, SJ in Alien - dark, gothic, fossilised, unknown, haunting, disturbing.. and then we see this fluid, CGI, humanoid - true, this is the one thing that has disappointed me amidst all the hype

From the limited information in the trailer i can't be for sure. But the Space Jockey in both the comic series and graphic novels depict him as a large elefantoid creature and not in anysort of a suit. Now i know its possible that in the various issues in which the space jockey is referenced there could be differnt takes on his appreance through the different artist, but the common theme was said suit-less creature.