Beware, Prometheus NOT a Historical Document...

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MemberOvomorphApril 04, 20122451 Views60 RepliesJust saw this on the news:
[url=http://news.yahoo.com/tenn-governor-probably-sign-evolution-bill-205851280.html]Tennessee "evolution" bill[/url]
This is not regarding ancient alien B.S. theories, but if you don't open your eyes and want to go that route, beware, we all might end up dealing with holy inquisition courts and witch hunts once again and pretty soon...
April 04, 2012
@ Gehirn , only if they weigh the same as a duck
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April 04, 2012
@spartacus
no, offense, but AAT isnt even a theory, its pure speculation. There are no aliens proven. Not [i]ancient[/i] not [i]now[/i], sorry. ( [i]the greys[/i] are of [i]demonic[/i] character, and else, not extraterrestial)
I rather believe that these are set up by real secret agencies and the military-industrial complex. ( see triangle UFO, is made by Lockheed industries)
In addition, most stuff AAT´s are discussing is proven false. Take a good example, Sitchin. He was quite popular, but debunked. Here is a site from a professional archeologist:
http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/ancientastro/ancientastro.htm
Why do you think Erich von Däniken choses a certain method when writing, [b]he is just asking[/b][i][/i], not claiming. He knows why, as he was in jail. Nevertheless he is selling.
bestselling lies. they give what these people want to hear..
so facts first..
cheers
April 04, 2012
People should just use all teachings of Good from Religon and i mean all and not just the Bible/Koran and apply it to a positive and peacefull way of life. Use them as a guide to how to treat each other.
There are bad points to religons and thats why i have a hard time in beleaving them, not only because of the holes in them, there are holes in Science and Evolution aswell.
I just find many things with certain religons a bit hypocritical
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April 04, 2012
wow, a lot has happened :s.
@Spartacus what i mean is the Tenessee bill makes it possible wait i'll quote the article
"The measure passed by the Tennessee General Assembly would protect teachers who allow students to criticize evolution and other scientific theories, such as global warming."
protect teachers? i mean how is that freedom if a teachers let pupils criticise and get punished???
why would you even need a bill for that, it's common sence i thought?
Humans wouldn't be where they are if they didn't question and/or challenged old habits/knowledge
April 04, 2012
@Spartacus
-"What I find MOST AMAZING is all the people who insult and belittle the work of Von Daniken and it could turn out that he knew better than all of them...Einstein, Darwin, ect etc etc...all of them....His incredible realizations were Born of having and maintaining an "OPEN MIND" !!!!!!"
-Here's a bit of info on Von Daniken and his work:
-"Scientists and historians have rejected his ideas, claiming that the book's conclusions were based on faulty, pseudoscientific evidence, some of which was later demonstrated to be fraudulent or fabricated, and under illogical premises. For example, Ronald Story wrote a book rebutting Däniken's ideas in 1976 titled The Space Gods Revealed. A similar internationally bestselling book, entitled Crash Go The Chariots by Clifford Wilson, appeared in 1972." --Wiki
-"At the age of 19, von Däniken was caught stealing money, both from an innkeeper and from a camp where he was employed as a youth leader, and was given a four-month suspended sentence. The psychiatrist who examined von Däniken at the time described him as displaying a "tendency to lie".[6] Von Däniken was withdrawn from his school, and became apprenticed to a Swiss hotelier for a time,[7] before moving to Egypt. While in Egypt, he was involved in a jewelry deal which resulted in a nine-month conviction for fraud and embezzlement upon his return to Switzerland.[6]
After his release, von Däniken became the manager of the Hotel Rosenhügel in Davos, Switzerland, during which time he wrote Chariots of the Gods?, supposedly working on the manuscript late at night after the hotel's guests had retired.[8] In December 1964, von Däniken wrote an article entitled Hatten unsere Vorfahren Besuch aus dem Weltraum? ("Did our Ancestors have a Visit from Space?") for the German-Canadian periodical Der Nordwesten.[9] Chariots of the Gods? was accepted by a publisher in early 1967, and printed in March 1968.[8]
In November 1968 von Däniken was arrested for fraud, after being caught falsifying hotel records and credit references in order to take out loans[8] to the value of $130,000 over the course of the previous twelve years. He had been using this money to fund foreign travel to research his book.[6] Two years later,[8] von Däniken was convicted for "repeated and sustained" embezzlement, fraud and forgery, with the court ruling that the writer had been living a "playboy" lifestyle.[10] Von Däniken entered a plea for nullity on the grounds that his intentions were not malicious and the credit institutions were at fault for failing to adequately research his references,[8] but a court-appointed psychiatrist considered the defendant to be fully accountable for his actions, and described him as a criminal psychopath.[10][6] Von Däniken was sentenced on 13 February 1970 to three and a half years imprisonment and fined 3,000 francs.[8][11] He served one year of this sentence before being released.[6][12]
His first book, Chariots of the Gods?, had been published by the time of his trial, and its sales allowed him to repay his debts and leave the hotel business. Von Däniken wrote his second book, Gods from Outer Space, while serving his prison sentence."--Wiki
-"One artifact offered as evidence in the book has been disclaimed by Däniken himself. Chariots asserts that a non-rusting iron pillar in India was evidence of extraterrestrial influence, but Däniken admitted in a Playboy interview (vol.21, no.8, August 1974) that the pillar was man-made and that as far as supporting his theories goes "we can forget about this iron thing." Neither this nor any other discredited evidence has been removed from subsequent editions of Chariots of the Gods."-Wiki
-You want to place your chips down on this character?
April 04, 2012
lol Spartacus. Daniken's definitely one of the better researchers. When you compare some of these ancient cultures you realize they're talking about the same groups of beings in completely different locations, with names that aren't always linked etymologically, meaning less chance of cultural transmission. The same traits end up being applied to these groups in their myths and written testaments. And we definitely see the coming down from the stars/flying "object" aspect many times; Followed by an earlier awareness of astronomy in those same cultures. The Sumerians knew about Pluto even though we don't consider it a planet now, and it wouldn't be seen with a telescope for thousands of years, even being a semi-recent discovery in the 20th century.
Stories depicting what we think of today as the grey alien show up cross-culturally as well. Most recognizably as the ant-people or the Anasazi in native American folklore that helped the ancients escape the flood by burrowing into the Earth and the Grand canyon and teaching them to build their ancient stone cities. These guys were sometimes at war with the tall bearded men some of the ancient meso-Americans saw as gods, and taught them to fear/worship as gods.
April 04, 2012
@BigDave
There are holes in Science and much more in the Evolution theory because they are man made. The scope of Science is to investigate these holes.
You wouldn't find many people willing to admit holes in religion because that would be admitting that religion is man made.
Critical thought is the worst enemy of religion.
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
April 04, 2012
Well glad the religion haters have not started picking on my faith. As a note, one can believe in science and be a person of faith. However, Science and Religion have a human element, and humans by their nature are flawed. But I must say, how is this about Prometheus?
Religion must remain an outlet for people who say to themselves, "I am not the kind of person I want to be." It must never sink into an assemblage of the self-satisfied. --Frank Herbert
April 04, 2012
When you compare some of these ancient cultures you realize they're talking about the same groups of beings in completely different locations, with names that aren't always linked etymologically, meaning less chance of cultural transmission. The same traits end up being applied to these groups in their myths and written testaments. And we definitely see the coming down from the stars/flying "object" aspect many times; Followed by an earlier awareness of astronomy in those same cultures. The Sumerians knew about Pluto even though we don't consider it a planet now, and it wouldn't be seen with a telescope for thousands of years, even being a semi-recent discovery in the 20th century. What intrigues me is India and Egypt (as well as Greece/rome via transmission) also make references to lost island empires of advanced hominids that had colonies here and their own versions of flood stories.
Stories depicting what we think of today as the grey alien show up cross-culturally as well. Most recognizably as the ant-people or the Anasazi in native American folklore that helped the ancients escape the flood by burrowing into the Earth and the Grand canyon and teaching them to carve their ancient stone cities. These guys were sometimes at war with the tall bearded men some of the ancient meso-Americans saw as gods, and taught them to fear/worship them as gods.
Even in the ancient hebrew bible (before translated) there are so many clues, some that survive and become part of the old testament, other translations, and make it into the new testament even. Originally there was not just one god, and the main god was female. Jehova sounds like he walks around in a giant robotic suit... and some of the choirs of angels meant something completely different.
April 04, 2012
If this situation is goes where I think it could, a TRUE world war will ensue. And by world war I mean war on EVERY land mass on the planet. Not just Europe or something.
April 04, 2012
lol Gehirn, she turned me into a newt!!
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April 04, 2012
In my opinion and anything which I believe (as I really don't think its important here)
anyone that can't (or won't try) to understand someone else's point (or belief) and thus feels any need to insult it or belittle it, just devalues their own opinion.
Whether you take any explanation from science or religion it is all a matter of faith (for example you have faith your car's wheels go around when your moving in it) or there is some afterlife and all have the right to believe whatever they wish whether the reason is a negative or some glorious realization!
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April 04, 2012
@Malakak: [i]Sumerians knew about Pluto even though we don't consider it a planet now[/i]
Evidence please.
April 04, 2012
SCIENCE IS PROVING VAN DONIKENS THEORYS OR MOST OF THEM ANYWAYS...100% CORRECT.
And this is BS. Evidence please.
April 04, 2012
[i]Science should contrast bigotry and superstition with critical thought and an open mind[/i][b][/b]
nice..right.
here are some sites from art historians that show popular misunderstanding in arts as beeing UFO (this [i]superstitious[/i] stuff is SERIOUSLY believed as proof)
painted angels are UFOS, ok?
english/italian/portoguese language. its not hard to understand I think, I dont speak italian either ;)
http://sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_2_eng.htm
http://sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_2.htm
http://sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_3.htm
http://sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_5.htm
http://sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_6.htm
well, this is an UFO..
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April 04, 2012
i WELCOME ALL OF THAT BECAUSE IT SHOWS JUST HOW CLOSE MINDED FEAR CAN MAKE PEOPLE BECOME. That said, I respect all of your opinions and do not mean in any way to demean the validity of any of your arguments, I just took 50 years to make up my own mind about him and his book and after watching the entire ancient alien series to date i am convinced, as mentioned that we are going to find out one day long after we are all dead and buried that on at least 75% of his speculations he was closer to the truth than anyone else ever was. Science itself, the very existence of this discipline, BEGGS US ALL to take his ideas to heart and explore them as deeply as we can...Mankind has longed for truth since it's inception, it is part of that which we value most...to ignore his writings on this subject would be to do a dis-service to the art of discovering Man's Truth's.