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Are we being too Literal

TheNextLV426

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I enjoy all the plot ideas here but think we are being too literal with some of the things we see in the trailers. For example, a king has his reign and then he dies doesn’t mean we’ll encounter a king. It could be a referral to a species being dominant one day and history the next. The phrase is like saying every dog has his day, or 15 minutes of fame. Because the movie is called Prometheus doesn’t mean that it’s based on ancient Greek mythology any more than Red Dwarf features small red people. Also, RS has gone to great lengths to distance himself from Aliens 3 and 4 because of their silly plot lines, even so far as to have them ruled non cannon. I would be surprised if after declaring a movie about alien cloning (ie resurrection) as fan fiction if he goes down the route of time travel, ancient atlanteans, Weyland being an SJ, androids evolving in to xenos etc. I’m not dissing the theories that are posted as they make great reading but I think they are wide of the mark. I think the movie will be set within believable realistic parameters that all audiences, particular the older generation like me who grew up with the film will believe and not on a way out there sci-fi premise. Having said that, with my luck the I will be completely wrong and the film will be about an ancient time travelling xenomorph from Atlantis called Prometheus who becomes lost in time following a time travel experiment, temporarily taking the places of other people to put right what once went wrong and hoping that each leap will be the leap home.
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@ Want to see - Yeah, I thought the same thing too about the running loose xenos once the mission is accomplished. Think about it though, I remember reading that Giger said the xenos had a very short life span...like 3 days? So that would be perfect. They do their job(kill the humans) and die shortly after.
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No need Spartacus... I still have it. PS... Xeno ANTS rock!! hahahaha
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Freeze, "They do their job(kill the humans) and die shortly after." Okay, man. Well then there you go. We got a working theory. Then I guess I'll have to assume that in 'Aliens' Ripley and the marines didn't know their life span was so short. They could have just waited until they all died?....
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@ Wirrn - I have a friend whom has Crohns disease, he's had it all his life, as did O'Bannon. While it isn't curable it is treatable with medication. @ WTSPN - Once all suitable host have been used up the Xenomorphs will die leaving behind their eggs. SJ's come down, collect the eggs, eliminate the skeletons and hives of the Xenomorphs (think blue liquid in AVPR or War of the Worlds (Book not films) black fog). The Derelict in Prometheus/Alien is filled with said cargo of eggs.

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Well, then maybe if the colonial marines had waited, all they would have had left to wrestle with are a bunch of eggs....
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Gavin
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If the short life span thing is true, it has never been stated in the films. The Xenomorph's would eventually die out, after how long we simply don't know.

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Cameron sort of threw a monkey wrench into Gigers 4 day life cycle theory in that by the time Ripley and the marines arrive at LV426 after their FTL cryosleep, NEWT has been surviving virtually alone for something like 2 weeks.
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@CanadaPhil Damn did I ever love that idea with the Xeno anthill, found it terrifying when I first read it, also....This IMO is one of the single most fun and "hardly ever seen" openings to any film I have ever. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwCWzGje8Ds]AuntieXeno[/url] @whydon't: Just FYI, it was "4 days". @Wirm: Both Snorky & I are Huge O'Bannon Fans/Respecters. IF not for DAN more than anybody else...None of us are even here right now!!! [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1aobannon.jpg[/img]
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Agreed CanadaPhil, I always thought that 4 day's was too short. I imagine the Xenomorphs probably have a decent lifespan to give them time to do their thing.

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Gavin
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Exactly Sparky... Dan O'Bannon and H R Giger are the Sci-Fi Horror equivalent of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, or James Cameron and Stan Winston.

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Spart... They might just yet pull the wool over everyones eyes!! Afterall, the scan of the "mountain" sure as hell looks like a HIVE to me!! What is wrong with that idea anyway? That the "REAL Xeno" were meant as nothing more than WORKER ANTS!! a simple means to an end. They dig, chew the natural local minerals, and adapt the terrain to something new via their secretions and apriation..droppings even!!... But, something unforseen happens making them into NOT what the "overlords" intended. Personally, I find the tarantuala sized ant idea way more pallatable. The idea of something evolving into something entirely different and terrifying is what this is supposed to be all about isnt it?
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There's still something in 'Aliens' that could give us an angle on this life cycle deal and keep Cameron's movie sound. You remember that when they flamed that women who had a baby xeno burst from her chest, the noise woke the adults up. Perhaps by going into some sort of hybernation sleep, they can extend their own lives.
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Like in Blazing Saddles, we would say at that point someone could have been giving a Pep Talk To The Xenomorph's Before they would go out on a Xenomorph Terra-Forming Run and maybe even Harvey Korman himself...ending with that age old inspirational and now world famous movie quote phrase... [b]"Now Go Do That Voodoo That You Do So Weeeeeellllllllll"[/b] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1voodoo2.jpg[/img] LMFAO
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The "temple" is based upon Harkonnen Castle (spotted by your truly back in November/December) and Gigers description of the workings of Harkonnen Castle (originally intended for Dune) is not too dis-similar to how the Xenomorph's construct their hives, which co-incidently, probably look like what Giger designed for the Pyramid in Alien (essentially a large egg).

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In fiction, canon is the conceptual material accepted as "official" in a fictional universe's fan base. It is often contrasted with, or used as the basis for, works of fan fiction, which are not considered canonical. Wikipedia Without a proper name for the creature, fans adopted the name the crew had used for it during production, ‘Space Jockey’. It was only later, in canon books and video games, that we learn the race is called ‘Pilot’ - or ‘Mala’kak’ in their own language. None of them appeared in any other films from the series http://www.tgdaily.com/entertainment/60322-ridley-scott-talks-alien-prometheus Mala'kaks, also known as "Space Jockeys" or "Pilots" (Latin: Mundus gubernavi, meaning "Universal Pilot"), are an elusive race of large, sapient, extraterrestrial lifeforms
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Sparta, And a xeno named Mel says "Nice pep talk Haddy!"
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@CanadaPhil fanbloddytastic post man, I agree with everything you said @Snorky, I wish there was some small way we could pay homage t that man? I Imagine he would have been so happy, no...ABSOLUTELY THRILLED with what is happening now. @EVERYBODYELSE SOME KIND OF TIE IN TO THE "MURDEROUS THEIF" however small, has t be part of this film IMO...because for no other reason than Ridley Scott would Not give up the One chance he may have before he is gone to bring that thing back into the fold. His and O'Bannon's and Gigers most magnificent creation. Maybe the greatest Movie Monster of all time, which never would have occurred if not for that Damn Beach Ball of O'Bannon's and Ridley Scott's Love of Giger's Book Of paintings... "Necronomicon!!!
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@ CanadaPhil and Want to see - Interesting ideas!
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[quote]Posted Apr-06-2012 11:34 AM | Moderate The "temple" is based upon Harkonnen Castle (spotted by your truly back in November/December) and Gigers description of the workings of Harkonnen Castle (originally intended for Dune) is not too dis-similar to how the Xenomorph's construct their hives, which co-incidently, probably look like what Giger designed for the Pyramid in Alien (essentially a large egg).[/quote] right Snorky, But you do see the similarities in it;s shape and design right? Heck for all we know they got Giger himself to model that thing outta some clay...lmfao
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@ Snorky ohhhhhhhhh k.... as much as I'm obsessed with ALIEN and like Dan O'Bannon, Dan (rest in peace) is not the equivalent of Stan Lee. Stan Lee is credited with the creation of much of Marvel's current super heroes including Spidey, X-Men, and the Fantastic Four just to name a few. Stan has also written countless stories over the years and has helped produced shows and movies. Dan wrote the original screenplay for ALIEN which was then altered by the producers and by Ridley making it significantly better. The only other significant credits he has according to IMDB are partial credits for the screen plays of Total Recall and Screamers. (Both movies based on Phillip K Dick stories). Dan helped to start a world-renown movie franchise which is an incredible accomplishment. But as a comparison...I think Stan has done a bit more.

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