Biggest Letdowns

Here's, for me, the big thing he and those surrounding and involved in the making of it have said a dozen or so times now... [quote]It’s basically about trying to find out if there was intervention in the birth of civilization on planet Earth by other beings, which we come to know as Engineers, and whether they had a master plan in mind for us.[/quote]

I have said this many times before but now I am going to say it again but in a much different way, if you want to have some understanding of what's going on in this film ON THE DAY YOU ARE WATCHING IT, right now, it would be a real real real real real great idea to start downloading or buying and watching every single Ancient Aliens episode starting with he Pilot episode. I say it's time for people to get ONE thing straight in their heads right now and accept it cause otherwise they ARE ALL GOING TO BE VERY DISAPPOINTED. This whole thing...all of it...revolves around the [b]ANCIENT ASTRONAUT THEORY[/b] !!! & There is just absolutely no denying this anymore now !!!

Wait a minute, i heard SRS say he'd like to do a back story to Alien. From what i can remember of the interview (not quoting him exactly) he said something like he thought the SJs were an alien race that was at war with another alien race and the eggs were bio weapons created by the SJs to use against the enemy. I dont see any reason why Prometheus would not be a prequel to Alien. The alien ship in Prometheus is exactly the same as the Derelict in Alien. The alien when it gets suited up in the trailer looks exactly the same (minus the fosselisation) as the SJ in Alien, the big chair's the same and the fact that Wayland is in it. So i dont understand how it couldnt be a prequel! Maybe the blue blokes are the SJs enemy and the humans get caught up in the war?

Spartacus....I haven't seen those episodes you refer to but if they have anything to do with travelling through time, then that theory of yours can only be in one place...for me to poop on.

@Spartacus Agree that its based on the ancient astronaut theory, I think that point is beyond question.

@Spartacus Agreed about the ancient astronaut theory. I think that is beyond question. But as I mention above, the disappointment is going to come to those who expect the movie to be based around LV426 and that particular SJ.

The NextLV426....and the highly likely probability in my view that there's no Giger Alien...more than a bitter pill for a lot of people..not me.

@Dutch I think that is why RS has gone to such lengths to distance the film from Alien because there is no xeno. If people turn up expecting the xeno then they are going to be disappointed. Personally I don't mind either way. I expect the film to be unmistakeably Alien without having a xeno running around.

I dont necessarily want time travel either, but time is a dimension that can be moved through, back or forwards, theoretically. Worm holes are closely related to time travel and without them, or something else just as fantastic, we'll never see a planet outside of our solar system. So you better hope it's not just theoretical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Dutch, not to worry...Time travel is not part f the AA theory in general. The AA theory has nothing to do with Time Travel at all.

Last thing, and it's something I have mentioned here many times before but everyone seems to just discard and not remember it... [b]What WAS ACTUALLY Said was we will not being seeing the exact same ALIEN from the film ALIEN...not in THAT FORM. Not in the form we remember seeing it in. That's all.[/b] “What if you could meet God but God turned out to be the Devil?” So asks Prometheus Executive Producer Michael Ellenberg of the themes at the heart of Ridley Scott’s first return to science fiction since his seminal work on Alien and Blade Runner. [b] At the core of Scott’s story are the eternal questions of human existence: who are we and where do we come from?[/b] As Michael Fassbender summarises: [b]“It’s basically about trying to find out if there was intervention in the birth of civilisation on planet Earth by other beings[/b], which we come to know as Engineers, and whether they had a master plan in mind for us.” Like all good science fiction, the germ of the idea began in examining the real world. Explains Ellenberg: “Ridley was inspired by everything from the Nazca Lines in Peru, which are these vast Earth sculptures can only be seen from the air, to cave paintings in France, to ancient Egypt and ancient Mayan civilisations. We’re pushing beyond what’s been found thus far and speculating about what maybe found in the future.” For director Ridley Scott, the themes of Prometheus are a reaction to an abundance of post-apocalyptic cinema. Prometheus isn’t necessarily about looking forward, at what we might become, but it’s about looking back, at where we might have come from. “It’s about the beginning of life and the eternal ‘what if’,” explains Scott. “Has this ball we’ve been sitting on right now been around for three billion years or one billion? And if we haven’t been pre-visited (by alien civilisations), then what was this planet doing for all that time before life came along? It’s only our arrogance that says, ‘No, it’s impossible, we’re the first ones.’ Are we the first hominids? I really, really, really doubt it. In recent memory or legend we keep talking about wonderful, weird things such as Atlantis – what is that? Where does that come from? Is that real, was it real, is it a memory, did it exist? And if that did exist, did it exist three quarters of a billion years ago? There’d be nothing left now. How was that created and who was it?” After working on a draft with screenwriter Jon Spaihts, Scott called writer Damon Lindelof, best known as a co-creator of Lost, and asked him to collaborate on the script. “Ridley first called me in mid-July of (2010),” he remembers. “I’d never met him before, but obviously I was a massive fan of his work. I was driving in my car when the phone rang and a voice on the other end said, ‘Ridley Scott is going to call you in five minutes, are you available?’ After crashing my car and dealing with the immediate aftermath of that, I started talking to Ridley Scott. I was sort of trembling when he called me on the phone and he said he was going to send me a script.” Spaihts’s draft was a direct prequel to Alien, and Scott explained to Lindelof that he was aiming to branch off into slightly more original territory. “He was also driven by these bigger thematic ideas about what this movie could be about,” says Lindelof. “We started having conversations, and as a result of those conversations we worked very closely together for a couple of months, rewriting the script until he was satisfied that it felt like it was its own movie.” Adds Lindelof: “The amazing thing that Ridley does, as a director, is ground big ideas in some sort of fundamental reality. What’s cool about this movie is that it doesn’t take place on Earth, in any real significant way, so the way that we’re experiencing the future is really away from Earth. It’s more about what people are like now. What have they gone through? What are the things that they’re thinking about? The idea that we’re basically all going to be the same a hundred years from now, but we might be driven by different ideas, is what’s driving the movie.” Production designer Arthur Max says the themes have been key to the way he’s envisioned the look of the film. “Very loosely, these creatures are some kind of genetic Engineers on an interplanetary level,” he teases. “They go around creating life. In certain ways, they’re kind of God-like.” Logan Marshall-Green plays Holloway. He sums up the importance of Prometheus‘s thematic tapestry as being, “a movie based on a philosophy and not an alien. The movie’s intelligence holds you through most its runtime before you get in to all the action. You’re turning the page not just because of what happens but what is said.“ Laughs Marshall-Green: “Certainly, it makes an argument that will move away Darwinism, let’s just say!” “Prometheus, in literature, was a Titan who stole fire from the Gods because they were keeping it to themselves and they were worried what mankind would do if we got our little paws on it,” teases Lindelof. “That theme is a resonating idea in Prometheus, the movie; what humans are doing that we probably shouldn’t be doing, in terms of technological innovation and, perhaps, exploration. Is there a line that shouldn’t be crossed? Part of the fun of the movie is understanding why we call it Prometheus.” For Fassbender, the film’s themes reflect in the way the characters on board Prometheus interact with one another. “There’s always politics within, and that’s why, I think, this cast got together. The tempo, the pace, the intelligence of the script; each person has got their own agenda on that ship and it’s each a very individual agenda. Some people are there for the pay. Other people are there to get answers. Other people are there to hopefully attain some sort of secret. Others are there in somewhat of a spite journey. You’ve got all these collective relationships, individuals and motivations and that’s what makes quite intriguing even before the shit hits the fan.” Charlize Theron found her connection to the film’s themes in the dark motivations of her character. “I thought there was tremendous potential to explore themes that the script was already exploring, through the eyes of a character that was so different from everybody else who’s on this mission,” she says. “You have these scientists going out there – one is a believer, one really isn’t – and you play on all these themes, but to really experience all of that stuff from the point of view of somebody who comes from a much more cold, economic, business suit sense of it was interesting.” “I think that one of the really interesting ideas that the movie is dealing with,” describes Lindelof, “is this sense that space exploration, particularly in the future, is going to start to be not just about going out there and finding planets, so that we can build colonies, or anything else, but also this inherent idea that, the further we go out, perhaps the more we learn about ourselves. And, I think the characters in this movie – some of them at least – are very preoccupied with the idea of, ‘Where did we come from? What are our origins? What is our place in the universe? Are we the only sentient beings, or are there others?’” It’s this point that Lindelof thinks really separates it from Alien. “In Alien it was just, ‘Hey, we’re miners. Oh, we ended up stepping in this huge pile of very frightening shit!’ So, although there are elements like that in this movie – and there certainly are scares – the idea of fundamentally and thematically exploring this idea of creation was always a big deal for Ridley.” ...and THAT...SHOULD PUT AN END TO ANY DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE ABOUT AND IF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH MANKIND'S ORIGINS AND EXISTENCE ON EARTH.

I dont care if it leads into alien or not any longer. I view it like star trek. This is Enterprise to the original series. Might set up a few things but that is it. It even has the tech issues no matter how they tried to make things look more dated on "Enterprise" it still looked more advanced then the 60's show. If I see a chestburster, face hugger, or xeno I will be disappointed. I want to know about the jockey race, but the one on LV426? Meh. It doesn't matter if it is directly his story or not.

Nicely put Sparty! Leaves little room for interpretation!

@Spartacus Constellation88’s post basically asked the question of what would be the letdowns in this film…for each of us personally. I was merely mentioning my own. It is not “self-denial,” because I’m not denying myself…I’m expressing myself. If the film plays out as you say, I will probably be disappointed. Apparently, we have somewhat different tastes. Which is why you seem to be a fan of the whole ALIEN franchise, from what I’ve read…and I on the other hand am not. My question to you is: Why do the planet and ship absolutely have to be the very same as in the original ALIEN film? I’m dying to here this. ~N

@Spartacus Constellation88’s post basically asked the question of what would be the letdowns in this film…for each of us personally. I was merely mentioning my own. It is not “self-denial,” because I’m not denying myself…I’m expressing myself. If the film plays out as you say, I will probably be disappointed. Apparently, we have somewhat different tastes. Which is why you seem to be a fan of the whole ALIEN franchise, from what I’ve read…and I on the other hand am not. My question to you is: Why do the planet and ship absolutely have to be the very same as in the original ALIEN film? I’m dying to here this. ~N

Like I said. Let downs. Although, good to see such heated discussions. Skeptisism and speclation regin supreme here.