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Great article...what 'Prometheus' is in relation to 'Alien'.. A parallel story r

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craigamore

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 7:58 PM
[url=http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2012/04/05/why-prometheus-isnt-a-sequel-and-what-it-might-be-instead/]http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2012/04/05/why-prometheus-isnt-a-sequel-and-what-it-might-be-instead/[/url] [size=200]Why Prometheus Isn’t A Sequel – And What It Might Be, Instead[/size] What makes a prequel a prequel? Damon Lindelof, in explaining why he doesn’t consider Prometheus a prequel to the original Alien, comes up with a pretty good definition of the term… and one that may convince you that no-one ever needs to make another prequel ever again. Talking on the Nerdist Writers Podcast, Lindelof said The thing about a prequel is, as fascinating as it may be to watch Anakin Skywalker turn to the dark side of the Force, there’s an inevitability to it, so you know when you go in that the prequel can only cover A to Y, and that Z is going to be the pre-existing material, and so you can’t really end it in an exciting or surprising way, you can only end it in the inevitable way. So it’s really just about starting a movie with Hercule Poirot saying “It is you, the butler, who did it!” and then, for the next two hours, I’m just going to watch a series of events of how Hercule Poirot came to the revelation that the butler did it. Who wants to see that movie? That’s not interesting. Specifically addressing Prometheus, he defined that movie as By my definition of prequel, by the “A to Y” definition, I hope it’s not, because I hope that this movie can be surprising, I hope that – most importantly, the ending of this movie… the sequel to Prometheus is not Alien. The sequel to Prometheus, if it does well and people like it, would be another movie that goes off in its own direction and runs tangentially to Alien. It’s a compelling idea, that “prequels” are merely “story so far”s, as opposed to stories in and of themselves. I’ve written before about my dislike of this inevitability of the prequel genre, the fact that you know the ending of the story before you even begin; it feels “anti-story,” if that makes sense, a push against the basic force of storytelling and audience interest to find out more. No matter how inventive the prequel, no matter how many twists, turns and “You only thought you knew the story!” reveals there are, the ultimate destination is still the same one as everyone expected when they signed up for the journey. As Lindelof says, who wants to see that movie, really? The only alternative outcome is to risk destroying the original movie by revealing something that significantly changes the intent or meaning of the original movie at some point which is… risky, to say the least. There’s also something particularly interesting about Lindelof’s notion that Prometheus is a parallel movie to Alien; it’s the idea that another story altogether can fill in some of the gaps from your source story, but without retreading narrative. It’s universe building, I guess; the kind of thing that we’ve seen before in spin-off and ancillary material, but it feels somewhat revolutionary in movies, for some reason – The idea of “separate but equal” stories being told in the same universe without there necessarily being an explicit connection or relationship feels counterintuitive even in this day and age of the Marvel Universe franchise being built so carefully by Marvel and Disney. It’s something that – if Prometheus is enough of a hit that it spawns wannabes – I can see easily spreading to other movies, and other franchises (Star Wars, I think, could benefit from this kind of treatment, especially if the other movies were made by younger directors). The Prometheus and Marvel model is one that I hope takes root in Hollywood, so much so that it eventually supplants “prequels” as we know them. Being inspired by a story to create another one in the same setting is, after all, a completely different – and far superior – way of paying tribute to that story than just telling people “this is what you missed, even though the original creators didn’t think it was important enough to show you in the first place.”
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craigamore

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 8:05 PM
I didn't check to see if this was a posted thread...sorry....the article posted here contains Lindelof's interview as posted in the following thread....I apologize for my haste and would ask that another staff member lock my thread...thanks............here's the original thread... [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/3120]The nature of prequals...[/url]

Shane

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 11:00 PM
I think more people need to look at it like the various generations of star trek. Yes they all take place in the same universe, at different times, featuring different parts of said universe and different races.

craigamore

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 11:03 PM
True, but like the writer of the article says...it's not a phenomenon you see much in film.....and before you back at me with 'there are Star Trek movies', I know there are, but they originated from the tv show.....this somehow feels different....

NCC 1701

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 11:06 PM
spock putting a mind - meld on a face hugger .............. sorry Guys ,,,could not resist later

Shane

MemberOvomorphApr-09-2012 1:25 AM
Star Trek movies could also be seen in that light. Heh.

ZetaReticuli

MemberOvomorphApr-09-2012 2:54 AM
I totally subscribe to Lindeloff's thinking. I love tangents and left-of-centre things in stories, music and films and to apply this to the Alien 'universe' can only improve it. To re-tread is to destroy. There should be just passing connections.

Necrofan

MemberOvomorphApr-09-2012 11:52 AM
I love this interview. It suggests Prometheus to be as much a re-make as a prequel. And I agree with Lindelof 100%. Inspired by one story to create a different tale in the same setting is revolutionary in film-making, and a far better way to pay tribute or to continue a movie franchise without the necessity of the prequel, or even a sequel for that matter. Each film to stand alone in the same film-universe. I like it a lot.

CanadaPhil

MemberOvomorphApr-09-2012 12:08 PM
Good and thank God!!! I for one, luv that attitude and I LIKE THIS APPROACH! So in many ways then, those comments pretty much de-bunk all of the theories floating around here and everywhere that this MUST be LV426 and that MUST be the "Derelict" and here is the reason why... and on, and on, and on..... I want something NEW! The Xeno is NOT scary anymore folks. This is NOT a story about the Xenomorphs and something entirely different, but eventually in a round about way, this new direction will lead to that. I want to be challenged... I want to be thrown for a complete loop... I want to see the birth of a completely new idea and see where it might take us.

centrosphere

MemberOvomorphApr-09-2012 12:56 PM
There is a problem in Lindelof´s reasoning if you thinks about the financials. Check the numbers; the Star Wars prequels got bigger box office revenues than the original trilogy, in average: Star Wars Ep. IV: A New Hope $797,900,000 Star Wars Ep. V: The Empire Strikes Back $534,171,960 Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi $572,700,000 Star Wars Ep. I: The Phantom Menace $1,006,859,882 Star Wars Ep. II: Attack of the Clones $656,695,615 Star Wars Ep. III: Revenge of the Sith $848,998,877

draekus

MemberOvomorphApr-09-2012 1:21 PM
Great read! I agree with him all the way. Then again, who wouldn't?

BigDave

MemberDeaconApr-09-2012 4:08 PM
Well basically what was Alien about? It was about the Crew finding some Eggs on a Derelict Ship on some planetoid, something gets out of one of the Eggs, it implants organism into Kane that then grows and becomes the Alien Xeno. Aliens went back to the plannet where it was colanised and thus more people for Eggs to implant and grow Aliens from. By not being a propper Prequel Ridley just wants to concentrate more on who the Big Guy in Chair was and maybe at the end why that Cargo of Eggs got there. Maybe it may not be about the same Cargo and Ship. It will be about the Space Jockeys and we will see that they dable around and create various life forms and maybe Bio Weapons of which the Alien Xeno is just one kind but maybe we wont go in detail on them. Say the Xeno is a AK47, this movie could show us a M16 and MP5 where we will see simularities to the AK47. (that being same purpose, simular materials just different design).

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