Don't forget that Ridley Scott is talking about another Prometheus - Part 2

I am with you on this one. I for one would rather have this as a standalone movie without any Alien crap in it other than same region of space, company involved etc. It was well put in a thread I read yesterday - the movies will occupy the same side walk but ultimately that sidewalk will branch out into different directions leading to entirely different destinations or something like that. Looking forward to seeing this and RC spinning my head with questions and ideas and leaving me wanting more.

Well here are the ties with Alien apart from Easter Eggs. 1) The Space Jockey Guy in Pilot Seat (this movie will answer who they are etc). 2) The Derelict Ship, maybe again not the one that landed on LV426. 3) The Weyland Corp and its Technology etc. 4) The Mural of what looks like a Xeno... Those are what make connections with Alien, and maybe the movie will directly link to Alien, some reports say the last 8 minutes will link to Alien and may occur on LV426. This could be so at the end we all go.... ohhh that explains how, who, where and why about the Jockey, Derelict and Eggs in Alien. But the scenes before that part must also leave a lot of questions so as that it can be explored in a part two, that does not then have to go down the route of LV426 and the years that led to the Space Jockey landing on LV426 to the point the crew of Nostromo find the Derelict. Thus no need for a part two to then touch upon or even Show the exact Xeno in Alien/Aliens as its already covered in those movies. Thus a part two could explain what happens to Vickers, David and Shaw and what becomes of whats left on LV223 after Prometheus, because surely there must not be any Derelicts left after that movie heading to Earth as the movie would have to be non canon to Alien just as AVP Story is. Because if LV223 remains intact at the end of the movie, their is potential for Weyland to send out more missions to the planet, even if David, Shaw and Vickers dont survive. They would then still come into contact with the Organisms and the Urns even if the last of the Space Jockeys is taken care of or explained away at the end of Prometheus. What becomes of the Squid Hybrid? if this organism does not get onto the Derelict and have connnection with the Eggs and Space Jockey with Chest Burst open. Say for instance the end of the movie Shaw has the Organism on her then that would open up a part two to explore that angle. We just dont know, but i do think the story will have a open ending that will have two endings first will deal with maybe what happens to Survivors of Prometheus and what becomes of the Temples etc. Which can lead to a Part2 And the 2nd will explain or hint at what links the Space Jockey, Eggs and Derelict from Alien to Prometheus.

@dopelganger & BigDave - Two very good points and totally agree. Think you hit the nail on the head. It's Alien Territory and about the Jockeys. But Prometheus and this 8 mins at the end will certainly not answer everything in my own opinion. But hey won't it be great if Ridley Scott did a 2nd film and blow our minds to how the story leads to the famous derelict and all its manifestions that come from it in that second film??? I think so.

I don't understand all this negative speculation about Prometheus connecting with Alien at the very end. Frankly, we don't know anything about the derelict and space jockey. The explanation of how the ship got there and the factors that contributed to the space jockey's death could be mind blowing. Sure we know that the space jockey is dead on a crashed vessel. So what! The problem here is so many people have this preconceived notion already... if they know the outcome of the end of Prometheus with its ties to Alien-they basically know the story. We don't. So many what ifs. I could literally think of so many scenarios that completely changes the way we see the crashed ship and the space jockey. BigDave is right. Just because a multitude of questions are answered doesn't mean a plethora of new questions and mysterious will arise. That's the point of great story telling. To add to the list, here are some questions that I hope are answered: 1.) The Prometheus mission was expensive and very dangerous. It even received government subsidies (according to many statements put forth by members here that have visited Weyland website). Either way, the fate of the crew and mission is kept secret from the public and within the Weyland Industries. How did this occur? 2.) After all the Alien movies, why wasn't there ever any mention or contact with other space jockey civilizations. In Prometheus, are these the last space jockeys? I hope something is said that is truly shocking. For instance, we know that we discover M-Theory. Currently M-Theory states that there could be other universes in higher dimensions. We already know that our universe from astronomical evidence is going to die in heat death. What if the space jockey has been building unimaginable technology and built higher dimensional gates to other universes, because there's no point of engineering planets in a universe that's going to eventually die. I'm only speculating because Ridley is always stating that this movie is about everything. But these are the types of layering to a story that makes movies more speculative but add substance. If Prometheus tells a very intriguing and deep story with lots of speculative positions and unanswered questions, I'm sure a sequel could be highly welcomed. If you told me a year ago that a prequel to Alien was being made I would of thought why. Then I saw the first trailer and my mind was completely changed.

I don't understand all this negative speculation about Prometheus connecting with Alien at the very end. Frankly, we don't know anything about the derelict and space jockey. The explanation of how the ship got there and the factors that contributed to the space jockey's death could be mind blowing. Sure we know that the space jockey is dead on a crashed vessel. So what! The problem here is so many people have this preconceived notion already... if they know the outcome of the end of Prometheus with its ties to Alien-they basically know the story. We don't. So many what ifs. I could literally think of so many scenarios that completely changes the way we see the crashed ship and the space jockey. BigDave is right. Just because a multitude of questions are answered doesn't mean a plethora of new questions and mysterious will arise. That's the point of great story telling. To add to the list, here are some questions that I hope are answered: 1.) The Prometheus mission was expensive and very dangerous. It even received government subsidies (according to many statements put forth by members here that have visited Weyland website). Either way, the fate of the crew and mission is kept secret from the public and within the Weyland Industries. How did this occur? 2.) After all the Alien movies, why wasn't there ever any mention or contact with other space jockey civilizations. In Prometheus, are these the last space jockeys? I hope something is said that is truly shocking. For instance, we know that we discover M-Theory. Currently M-Theory states that there could be other universes in higher dimensions. We already know that our universe from astronomical evidence is going to die in heat death. What if the space jockey has been building unimaginable technology and built higher dimensional gates to other universes, because there's no point of engineering planets in a universe that's going to eventually die. I'm only speculating because Ridley is always stating that this movie is about everything. But these are the types of layering to a story that makes movies more speculative but add substance. If Prometheus tells a very intriguing and deep story with lots of speculative positions and unanswered questions, I'm sure a sequel could be highly welcomed. If you told me a year ago that a prequel to Alien was being made I would of thought why. Then I saw the first trailer and my mind was completely changed.

It depends how he goes with this movie.... How much detail is given to or even if shown the Derelict that lands on LV426. If the last 8 minutes are set on LV426 that means only 3 things... 1) The Derelict in Prometheus manages to leave LV223 but only gets as far as LV426. 2) Another Derelict takes off from LV223 but only gets as far as LV426 3) Another Derelict ship some how is shown or gets to LV426 but does not get shown leaving or maybe not even comes from LV233. Ridley has said you will see Alien DNA, but then he goes latter and adds you will see a direct link and it will tie in with Alien at the end of the movie, and then hints the end of the movie will not be on LV233. Ridley talked years ago that the Derelict was carying a Cargo of bio Weapons, that the Jockey was a suit, but he never said where that ship was going. Looking at this movie it would seem the Space Jockeys are off on their Ship to take something to Earth that will spell the end of Mankind and maybe all life on Earth... Thus maybe indeed the Alien Derelict is the same or indeed their is more than one on the same mission. The critical point that would need to be explained could be where to the Eggs come from? Are they on the ship at the end of Promethus, are they created/changed from the Urns or Layed by something. And do they explain the Chest Burster. I recon they wont, not in detail. All they have to show is that the Derelict, or another one gets off LV223 but then has to lands on LV426. Maybe it wont show Eggs, maybe you just see the Urns. But then at the end you see maybe Shaws Squid thing gets on that ship or something else that David maybe creates or plays part in, gets on that ship. Thus you would only have to show the Derelict leaving LV223 having seen our attempts to halt it fail, Space Jockey all snug in his seat sets off with his Cargo (that may contain Urns that either unleash Worms or something else to change our DNA or kill us off). Then it goes to a shot that while Mr Blue Guy sits in his chair where he is secured and cant exactly escape fast, we then see maybe the Squid Thingy attach to his mask, the Jockey then has to land his ship on near by LV426 and set out a warning becon. Then leave it at that..... its up to us to assume how the Urns become Eggs, how whats inside becomes Face Huggers and what jumps out of the Space Jockey. This can be explored by a Part 2 which will tie in Alien more but how do you make another movie based on the SJ Pilot getting infected by and killed off by a Organism and then lies dead and his ship dorment for 30 odd years. We could all assume in that ending whats happened, in that some how the Squid via either interacting with Urns and/or Jockey creates the Xeno. So it does not have to be explored as we already know, not every detail but it would fill in the blanks as to the unanswered questions of the Derelict and its Pilot and Cargo and what became of him. Thus...... leaving Ridley do make a part2 that does not then have to go back or touch upon the fate of the Derelict that lands on LV426. Instead it can explore the survivors of Prometheus, explore the Temple/Planet/Organisms more (Worms that change hosts DNA). or even explore what Weyland do after... does some of Prometheus survive and get rescued, do they have the Bio Formers, do they have the Squid Thingy (hence my idea above would have to be some other Organism that i think we have something to do with or David). The above is how i think the movie will end, in that it will leave a open end, in which case the questions from Alien about the big pilot, the ship how it got there and why, the Cargo would all be answered even if not in detail. And the new question would be what becomes of any Survivors of this movie and LV223 and Weyland Corp...

@czelaya Good points, and thats as i was saying somewhere this movie is going to explain but then maybe not in detail what become of the Derelict on LV426 be that the same one the Prometheus crashed into or indeed some other one. (a big question to be raised is not the slight differences between Derelict in Alien and this Movie or how the Jockey looks in apearence and size... the big question or hole/flaw is that the Derelict in Alien did not have any sarcophagus... if its the same ship what happened to them? So we dont know what Ridley has got instore, we dont know the details of how or if we see how the Eggs got on the Derelict, we may not know or see what caused the Chest Burster. All for sure we may know is we could see a Derelict on LV426 and given a hint that something has gone very wrong, now the Space Jockey would not be so stupid as to not have a means of securing its Cargo, especially if they are Urns not Eggs at that time. So potentially something unexpected has got on board that ship and caused a mischief or thrown a spanner in the works, while poor old Space Jockey is all tied up in his Chair. The end of the movie i beleave will kind of brush over at least cover some of the blanks regarding Alien, but while it could leave details for another movie, it does not have to go into full detail every at all. And then their is plenty things about this movie, that can be explored in another other than the Derelict that lands on LV426 and why?

RS said that it would tie in with Alien so there. Unless he's as big a liar as Newt's bitch mum who told Newt that there were no monsters, no real ones. Bitch how could she say that???? Cow!!!!

Folks, I think what we are gonna see in PROMETHEUS is not the minutia of whether the derelict we see in the trailer is the one ends up in LV426. The real questions are: Why is there a big ass corpse at that chair? What is that chair? What is its function? What is the ship's function? These will be answered by the end of PROMETHEUS. And I wager that chair + turret is not a flight instrument, a canon or a giant telescope. It is an operating table, almost like the Med Pod 720 that Weyland installs in Prometheus, the one that Shaw uses to extract the Proto Xeno from her belly. That's why that shot of the Big Blue Guy walking towards the rising chair is chilling: Is he sitting on it to self-operate? Is he going to place somebody there...???

No need to worry, if James Cameron directs the prequal-sequal there will be a grand unifying of the story, a bunch of colonial marines will turn up, find the Engineers are a bunch of muppets who need "there arses kicked", there will be loads and loads of cringing dialogue, bangs, , "sharp sticks" whining, meaningful looks and then we'll get to the really thoughful bit, Ripley wakes up and it's all a dream. "Whup", cock-up city with this baby. By the way, anyone ever noticed the similarity between these names: Ridley/Ripley?

I don't believe for 1 second Cameron would do that at all. I think he would work with Ridley and the producers and art directors and come up with some highly original sequences.

He did it with Aliens and come to that the Abyss too an Titanic an Avatar. Theres more to a film than whoosh, bang, big colours and stupid cliched characters and dialouge. You come out of a Ridley Scott film and think. You come out of a JC film and go wow, great, F--cking A man. You pays your money you takes your choice, only in this situation a challenging story/theme goes out the window, in comes eye candy that flatters to deceive. It's like a takeaway, you love it while you eat it, half an hour later your starving. His films have no fibre.

@BigDave >>>1) The Space Jockey Guy in Pilot Seat (this movie will >>>answer who they are etc). I somehow doubt that Prometheus will answer the question about 'who' this particular Space Jockey from Alien is. Most likely in my opinion that the Space Jockeys in Prometheus will be different from the one in Alien.

Somewhere I read that the engineers let loose their favorite bio-weapon on the humans, and that the humans were able to turn said weapon against the engineers.---maybe it's that simple as to why the S/J sets down/crashes a ship (im not convinced it's THE alien ship from lv-223, but a second one) and sets the beacon to stay away, right before he/she/it got chest bursted and died. **also** I think Weyland gets into the alien S/J suit and tries to commendeer the alien ship off of lv-223, and that's why Prometheus is so hell bent to stop it---they find out the real ploy by their "boss" (they were wrong--they were so wrong) ....I believe the blue guys aren't as bad as they are appearing, and are just trying to defend what is thiers, OR what THEY stole from a higher being. (and try to re-engineer human dna along the way to create something else) but have to maybe punish humans for ruining things...again. Or maybe I've just read to much on this site and all the theories are blending together.

Although interesting, I'm not sure just explaining the eggs or SJ is the big kahuna here. I'm betting large the mythology that RS says they are creating for this universe centers around Weyland - what he is, who he is, how he knows what he knows, and subsequently explain the secret decisions of the WY corporation in years to come (how do they know about the derelict but didn't know exactly where it was, why terraform LV 426, who's in control of WY and still so obsessed with this region of space 80 odd years after the events in this film, and long after PW has died). Of course the xenomorphs and SJ are integral to this story, but it all starts and ends with Weyland in the canon - there is more scope to centre the universe around this character more than anyone else in my opinion