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whiskuz
MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 6:14 PMHere's a theory. I've been wondering for a while about how the SJs/blue guys manage to end up at the temple while the Prometheus crew is there. Coincidence doesn't work because we're talking cosmic time and that makes it highly, highly improbable.
One theory we've explored here is the possibility of sarcophogi being integrated into the holo table. I posted about that one a while back.
But, what if all of the glyphs, beginning on earth and ending in the temple, are designed to lead intelligent life to the temple and, ultimately, to trick them into notifying the temple builders that they have made it to the temple. At that point, the temple builders teleport in and do...I don't know what.
I just thought I'd throw this out there after watching 6:42 of the super slo mo UK trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqA1rHtapo). The trailer shows that really bright flash and then they immediately fade in the next scene, obscuring the middle of the device, right where the flash is concentrated, much more quickly than the rest of the scene. Something obviously appears they don't want us to see.
I'm not saying this is strong evidence, but I'm interested to know what you all think about that possibility. I'm most interested in the story component that gets the SJs/blue guys into the temple with the humans, so let us know what you think the most plausible scenario is and why.
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TKfanboy421
MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 6:17 PMI THINK IT IS VERY CREDIBLE. And I like it! What's the number one fear? The fear of the unknown. If a higher being can teleport in from anywhere, possibly from anywhere in the universe, you can't run from them, they will find you if they want.....(very good post)

markos_prometheus
MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 6:19 PMI think you are right about some sort of teleportation. And it must be a key feature of the plot. I think there is no other way to explain, that strange scene in the trailer where a guy appears to attempt to go through, what appears to be a portal and somehow he gets dematerialized...

whiskuz
MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 6:49 PMThanks guys. Here's a little more elaboration:
Ridley and Lindelof definitely value good story writing. I think all the elements of the story are going to make a lot of sense. That being the case, there has to be some logical way the temple builders would set up this whole process logistically. If they wanted to facilitate contact between themselves and other intelligent races (for whatever reason), they would leave clues that could only be followed by intelligent races with a certain level of technology on planets with intelligent life. They would then build permanent temples that included teleportation technology and buried ships on a much, much smaller number of planets, which would act as their transportation hubs. When they get the signal, the teleport in and take a ship to their final destination.
Then again, that all could be way off. The temples could and probably will be used for far more than a train station.

Gem]n[
MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 7:38 PM@Wiskuz ...
That 'teleportation' flash as you put it, is the Holgram System initializing ... which David must of switched on ... it ends up showing the SJ's form of a pidgeon hole system for logging all their data ... that scene is not a new one check the other trailers you'll see the whole scene ;) ...
Later on in that scene it turns into a huge Hologram like the image below ...
I do hope they DON'T go STARGATE on this movie ... I don't think we will because Ridders likes to keep the technology plausible & within reason, so to speak ... and teleportation in 'this' movie would ruin it ... just sayin' ...
[b]The Hologram image after David Switches it on:[/b]
[img]http://oi39.tinypic.com/2w7r7r5.jpg[/img]

MidnightHorrors
MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 7:51 PMIf they can teleport they wouldnt need a ship. Im pretty sure the blue guys walking towards David in the map room are part of a recording.

Gem]n[
MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 8:04 PMIt is Midnight ... I think he watches their demise maybe? ... or they tell whoever watches the Hologram all about whats what? ...

Chimera
MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 12:38 AMI like this theory. It could help to explain the directions found on earth to this world. It would make since to test the guests you have invited before making contact with them. The best way is to invite them to a barren world and tempt them with information and technology to see how they react. Once you declare if they are a civil or militaristic race you make yourself know by teleporting there from your true and wonderful planet to either greet or destroy them. If the do not steal from the artifacts on the planet you welcome them to the galactic community but if the do steal you arrive and punish them, find out where they are from and destroy their race as well to stop the further spread of their kind!

allinamberclad
MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 8:03 AM@whiskuz
Well....[i]in context,[/i] it's not a completely revolting suggestion - and I speak as one who literally [u]hates[/u] to see the word "teleportation".
I'd be very surprised if they touch this, but I do think there is some plausibility in what you have said - and you have expressed it with an uncommon clarity and directness.
We all know, "Teleportation", can be the doorway to a room called, "Cheesy/Lazy Answers"...but, if I take a breath and have some faith in what I am being asked to buy into - that this is story of a breadth we have never been presented with before, on matters of Creation - and, if I consider that we've been casually wondering about the various methods of, "God-like Beings who can create Life", for weeks: it doesn't seem that it should be such a great stretch from there, to accepting that those same Beings could master teleportation?
Fine.
For argument's sake, then: let's say The God-like Beings have mastered teleportation.
Let's also trust that our Authors aren't so foolish that they don't know just how big a 50's B-movie can of worms they could be opening up with that, and, if they do go near it, they are prepared to spin the pant's backside out of it: from that point on, I would be looking for some very sophisticated and stylish handling - by which [i]I[/i] mean, some kind of limitation and sense around the concept.
So the God-like Beings can teleport. Then why did they teleport to [i]that[/i] room?
Any one of a million answers.
Was it [i]that[/i] room, out of , "Choice", or, "Necessity"?
That depends on the context - which we don't know, yet.
If they are, "God-like", it could well have been, "Choice": however, that kind of power could make a very dull damn movie - they could just teleport, at will, here and there, in circles all round us, [unless limited, see below]. It doesn't seem to gel and could, potentially, kill the story.
If, "Necessity", then that denotes some kind of limitation around the principle - my preference: yet, if they have any limitations, how [i]can[/i] they be "God-like"? "Gods", do not [i]have[/i] "limits".
I like the, "transportation hub", thought - but I can't think why, "God-like Beings", would need transportation hubs.
"God-like Beings", surely, wouldn't need those, nor the transportation - they would just go to where they wanted to go, directly...
I may have to give this more thought to make it stand up in my mind.
I do disagree with a couple of your supporting conclusions, but I just don't see how the idea of teleportation can be immediately dismissed - it actually might even be a case of asking, if they are, "God-like Beings", then why [i]wouldn't[/i] they teleport everywhere?

Guest
MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 11:28 AM@midnighthorrors and gem]n[
I don't necessarily like this idea either, but for argument's sake, if humans have FTL travel, then why is it so unlikely that the other culture can bend space? As much as we may hate this idea, it very well may be a reality some day. And if they have to have one of these rooms intact to teleport, it would make sense to have hubs and then travel by ship the rest of the way. If we're thinking about this logically---from a resources standpoint---it absolutely makes sense to set their transportation network up this way, if teleportation is available but calls for special equipment. Compare this to driving to and from the airport. Air travel calls for as special site and special equipment and it doesn't make sense to put a large airport in every city.
If you guys think this isn't likely, let's talk about how you think the blue guys/SJs get to the temple.
@allinamberclad
Yeah, that's my issue. I don't like the idea, but I dont' feel like it can be dismissed. Also, I'm assuming there are going to be limits on their technology, which I think is a safe assumption given the writer/director as well as the fact that we see machinery in the trailers, although it's unfamiliar to us.

BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-14-2012 12:14 PMAs long as this invitation trap does not mean this movie is a The Cabin in the Woods in Space lol....
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Ghost Solitare
MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 12:23 PMAny civilization with a technology that is Epochs beyond our own is going to appear Godlike. They would have holographics and information storage that would be quantum levels beyond what we're familiar with. No doubt they would have developed a superior method for interfacing with their technology. The figures may be holographic (solidograms) representations of the Engineers. When you have reached the limits of what the physical can do you start to work on the unimaginable.

chthon
MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 1:18 PMSo you teleport to one planet then get in your spaceship for the rest of the journey?
Not very interesting or dramatic.
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