Has Ridley Scott "Caved?"

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MemberOvomorphApril 14, 20121889 Views34 RepliesI'm always skeptical. The general de-evolution of the Alien franchise overall has me on pins and needles on what to think of this new tie-in... I want it to be *everything* that I hope it to be... but at PG-13...
How adult will this movie be?
Has Ridley Scott "caved in" to the studio system? Or is this article just trying to start something?
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=24551
April 15, 2012
George Lucas handled it best when making the recent prequels (even though I don't care for him) He funded the entire project because he didn't want any interference from the studio.
April 15, 2012
I believe when we compare the film the world sees in June with the DVD/Blu-ray release there will be no difference whatsoever- except those people with 3D televisions will retain a measure of the depth of theatrical 3D effects. But most films only get one shot to be seen in their orginal intended format and I further believe that forces within the MPAA board and outside it are at work to preserve the integrity of the film's original vision. This is an R rated film.
April 15, 2012
That new movie The Cabin in the Woods. Rated R, gory. Not one bit scary or intense
The clown doll in Poltergeist was scarier than a lot of R rated horror movies.
April 15, 2012
@Biehn_Bandit
You are right on about Cabin in the Woods. I think one reason could be because it has a lot of pseudo wit and tries to be so meta-smart (and the concept is funny and witty to a certain extent) but what do you do with a witty concept? After awhile the novelty fades. If it just deconstructing horror the whole time, how scary can it be? It did have potential, though. Just not to be truly horrifying.
April 15, 2012
(Cabin In the Woods) It would have been comedic if the FOOL was supposed to take LSD and then he became Shaggy and everyone one else became a member of the Scoobey Doo mystery solving crew. Oh ya, and as for that thing about Ridley "caving in": What the hell are you talking about...It sounds like it's time for a hit from the Maxi Toke, Bloke!
April 15, 2012
The Thing 2011 prequel was a good movie but it would have been a great movie if the studio execs wouldn't have forced the director to make cuts, cut the excessive blood in the attacks, change from practical effects to CGI and change the ending that would have showed the original alien pilot of the saucer from the Carpenter film. They hurt it's box office potential and the director lashed out recently on his facebook about it. His hands were tied and it seems that the execs have decided to override R Scott.
April 15, 2012
He's balancing business with art. All being well the true fans will get treated to an R-Rated cut on the Blu-Ray.
April 15, 2012
@dallas!dallas!
I see.
Well, there is no such, “singing praises of”, definition for, “apologist”, so, your language was not so much “tasteless”, as it was just plainly wrong.
Furthermore, as you have found the following;
“You may not have been singing the praises of Scott/Prometheus but many are” -
I’d personally appreciate it if you try and restrict your somewhat judgemental opinionizing of the fact, to cases where you [i]actually find it to be the case[/i] – and [i]not[/i] where you [i]don’t.[/i]
On that subject, let me remind [i]you,[/i] again: I have never once called Scott an “Auteur”, nor have I mentioned his name by favourable comparison with Kubrik, Bergman, Tarkovsky - nor any other name you might feel moved to mention; apropos nothing that I have actually said.
I would hope we are now in complete and full understanding of each other.
With that, I'm going to take it that this subject is [i]closed.[/i]
April 15, 2012
That's my only gripe about this great film, tell a lie 2 gripes... the way Hollywood, is trying to homogenize every single film to a one size fits all, cosy, family affair, safe bullshit mentality, and the other is the fact i've been looking up this film from the onset of it's announcement and hanging on to every word spoken about it and priming myself with the belief i'm being told the truth for a spectacular EPIC. Now history of films and the understanding i have of the term is now in question.
DAVID LEAN FILMS.... Dr zhivago-226 min
......... Bridge on the river kwai-161 min
Lawrence of arabia 216 min
A passage to india- 164 min
As they are using david lean as an example of epic film making to give a flavour of the influence of scope, i think its fair to say we can be forgiven for feeling a little short changed in prometheus's 119 min runtime.
April 15, 2012
They shot but an R and PG 13 cut. It was one of the first times this was done with a film as FOX had planned a PG 13 for the states and then the Unrated cut for DVD. I know the word is that FOX will make the final decision but from a money standpoint they may make more doing PG 13 to get the kids in then clean up on DVD as even those who complain the loudest will want to see what was cut out.
April 15, 2012
The fact is the series has never done huge business at the box office. Yes the first two did well but the third and fourth were not 100 million dollar movies. They made the profit via world wide box office, home video, cable, broadcast rights, merchandise, and yes, more cost efficient budgets. With the money he has invested, it would be trickier to make the budget back with an R rating. Terminator 2 did huge business with an R but it is a harder trick to pull off than a PG 13. The first AVP film showed FOX that they could make a profit with it as it did well enough at the box office despite scathing reviews and fan backlash. It also brought in new fans who had not seen the others as they were to young to view them. I want an R but honestly I really want a good story and a film as regardless of the rating, I know we will be able to see the Uncut film on DVD in time.
April 16, 2012
@allinamberclad
NO it is not closed. First of all, "apologies/apologists" date back to Plato and move on right up through the histories of religion, philosophy and literature and are explanations of and declarations of superiority of one's religion, philosophy, literary style. The term is a mocking term and has been such for more than two millenia. If you want to get into calling me/my remarks tasteless and wrong, then know what the fuck you are talking about.
And if you actually read my original post it was not addressed to you. If you took offense, it says more about your own ego than any "judgemental" opinion of me.
EDIT: I used a nasty term for you but then thought better of myself.
And finally, I made abundantly clear who I was citing with "auteur" in my response. If you want to play the intellectual prig with me, play away. I understand you very well. You bore me, and now it is Case closed.