what's the deal with the cheezy "slow motion" Xeno attacking lambert after killi
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PRO II
MemberOvomorphApr-15-2012 10:19 PMYou don't mean the part were the alien stands up? aww dude that bit is awesome, the music helps with the epic menaceness (lol I just made that word up)

artyoh
MemberOvomorphApr-15-2012 10:23 PMI think that's one of the most effecitve scenes in the entire movie, in terms of selling a completely alien monster. For a few moments, the big slimy, incongruous thing moves with the grace of a cat.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphApr-15-2012 10:25 PMIMO it was brilliant to do that, it's just a matter of taste I guess but the reason is I felt it was is...he used what was even then... an old fashioned... CLASSIC DEVICE in direct manipulation of the element of TIME as he {Scott} felt should be experienced... seen and felt... from what must have been LAMBERT's perspective.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphApr-15-2012 10:27 PMI should explain that I LOVE, JUST Absolutely LOVE the ART of film making. I guess that's different then just liking movies. But hey... to each their own.

Scottie
MemberOvomorphApr-15-2012 11:47 PMThe grace of the Alien has been discussed time after time. It was not in slow-mo, it was the way Ridley wanted Bolaji to move in that scene. It was to play out like a ballet.

Cryo
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 12:20 AMActually I thought you were talking about one of the deleted scenes where the alien is sitting then it kind of slides to get lambert in a very weird way, that was kind of cheezy and no doubt why it was deleted.
Now the scene that you meant, was deleted from the director's cut, I think because having the time to analyze it, I also do not think the alien moves so slowly.
Anyway I still like the original, it is a beautiful shot of the creature

Your not reading it right!!!
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 4:40 AMI love the way its left open about what actually happened to Lambert. The Alien always seemed to carry the others off and plonk them in its nest (if thats really all it ever did to them), but it wouldn't of had time. It is said that Lambert had a heart attack, which you can clearly hear on the mic system. But i also think there was a shot of her when Ripley returns to the scene of the crime and she looked a bit mutilated.

Gehirn
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 5:40 AMFrom another thread [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/2496&page=2#26748]started by the same O.P[/url]:
[quote][i]I mean you see a shot of the tail moving along the floor between her legs, moving upwards before the cut to Ripley who hears a 'gwad awful' gargled cry's and screams over the comm', when Ripley finds Lambert she's without trousers and her toe is curled up, as if we need any more hints as to what has just happened to her![/i][/quote]
Guess you missed it, Salad!

Otto
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 9:18 AMnah, Gehim, there's just a 3-4 second part that I'm talking about...I'll see if I can find the exact time stamp..but there's something about those 3-4 secs of "slo-mo" that just doesn't sit well with me---I don't know why. We may all be talking about different parts...

Biehn_Bandit
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 9:29 AMIs it that part where you see the Alien in profile and it seems like it's floating across the screen with its arms held out? That did look odd.

RaymondKnight
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 10:08 AMTo me, that is one of the most important shots in Alien. It shows the creature move in a way that is elegant and intelligent. Something that no other alien movie took advantage of. I hope in Prometheus the creatures are similar and not trying to act like animals. Especially when people are talking about the 'perverse' things some of the creatures will do, that kind of smooth creepy motion would definitely get that across.

skyguy1054
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 10:19 AMThe sillouette of the creature in the circular spotlight pointed at Lambert seems to enter, turn around and then crouch down rather quickly. I wish they had left in the reveal shot of what she was looking at. Was he slowly unfurling, vis-a-vis showing off for her?
What puzzled me even more though, was that wonky looking big toe on her swinging foot. Was that a body (foot) double? Does Veronica Cartwright just have a dislocated toe? Or did the creature do that to her? Again, the ambiguity here is almost more interesting that what might have been shown.

skyguy1054
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 10:20 AMBTW, shouldn't this thread appear in the ALIEN discussions rather than here?

thefacehead
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 1:41 PMIt is in the 'Alien threads' isn't it?
I loved that bit because it was as if the Alien was taunting Lambert having picked up on her fear perhaps. Also it connects the audience because she's the audience presence in a way. Scared shitless, unable to run, hysterical. Well i'd have at least curled up in a ball lol.

thefacehead
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 1:43 PMP.S. Please just call it Alien and not A.1 it's not a shit 90's boyband!

Otto
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 5:35 PMyah, Biehn, you described it well, I think you know exactly where I'm talking about...

Starbeast
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 6:06 PMIt's an alien being. So being odd is good. If it started to bark or licks its own balls, then I'd be worried.
Remember also that this alien being is really a juvenile removed from its aboriginal environment, so it is learning about itself and its surroundings by fulfilling its instinctive tendencies. Much like a human child explores its environment by putting everything in its mouth. Similarly,with the Lambert scene, my preference is not to interpret it as a sexual encounter but simply as the alien toying with this new object - returning to the child analogy, much like a baby might destroy an insect, more out of curiosity than deliberate malice.

craigamore
MemberOvomorphApr-16-2012 6:32 PMRidley, I believe, has also described the use of the actor's movements and those particular close up and slow moving shots as intentional devices used to make the audience question what it's exactly looking at.....he never wanted the audiece to have a clear global idea of what this Thing looks like or how it moves, thus adding to the tension and confusion affecting his audience....

John D.
MemberOvomorphApr-18-2012 10:33 PMIt shows, more than anything else, that the alien [i]knew[/i] it had Lambert right where it wanted her, it [i]knew[/i] she was paralyzed with fear, and helpless to defend herself against it; and there was no need to chase her, so to speak.
Sort of like how you never see Michael Meyers running anywhere in the original "Halloween."

cursum_perficio
MemberOvomorphApr-18-2012 10:40 PMI saw something recently that said that scene was filmed to include the sensuality in Giger's original artwork...makes it even creepier and offputting

Gehirn
MemberOvomorphApr-18-2012 11:30 PM@DNA Crossover,
Ohhh I remember now, the "hug" pose. Always looked a bit out of place.
[quote][i]Ridley, I believe, has also described the use of the actor's movements and those particular close up and slow moving shots as intentional devices used to make the audience question what it's exactly looking at.....[/i][/quote]
Kind of wish they kept [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR5jYeIMBKk]this scene[/url].

craigamore
MemberOvomorphApr-18-2012 11:37 PMI totally agree Gehirn, but just the one shot from the side, the profile long shot where it drops the tail and then lifts it, right up until it's about to move and then cut there...It's an amazing shot, beautiful really...

Gehirn
MemberOvomorphApr-18-2012 11:45 PMHaha, It's freakin' creepy eh? To think Cameron had problems with tails in his movie then you see something like that from Scott's own.

craigamore
MemberOvomorphApr-18-2012 11:51 PMI know...and it sucks that those few seconds didn;t make it in, what a wonderful addition that would be...

ZetaReticuli
MemberOvomorphApr-20-2012 3:49 PMI like that sequence a lot too, it's a frightening, totally non-human
'glide' with those six-fingered hands held aloft. I too hope there
will be something similar in the way of 'behaviour' in Prometheus.
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