mother ship

wait wait a second here, your saying there is NO relationship between velocity and/or the flow of time that both have nothing to do with time Travel?

alright, i guess that the Prometheus is "capable of interstellar" exploration throws out the needs for a larger ship to get it into deep space, thanks for that Chimera. It just doesnt look the part. It looks like a drop ship. the Nostromo looked like a giant skyscraper floating through space...and the Sulaco looked liked a big plasma rifle. the Nostromo also wasnt designed for what it did in Alien, landing on planets it had never been to before, hence the problems it ran into setting down on the planet. @centrosphere...whats a FTL drive?

one of Ripley's very best lines comes to mind right about now.

I was not saying that you are wrong, just trying to understand what you meant? Does "Lorentz Transformation" really have Nothing to do with Time Travel? I am genuinely curious.

Ummm ... there was no "mothership" in Alien... only the cargo / ore refinery left in orbit while the Nostromo landed on LV426. And - the Prometheus is NOT anywhere near the same size as the Sulaco drop ship. That drop ship was about the size of a Chinook Helicopter - the Prometheus looks close in size to the Nostromo maybe a bit smaller - but not much. Sorry - I see exactly zero evidence for any kind of human mothership in any of the trailers or images released thus far. Just callin' it like I see it.

The Sulaco was not a drop ship either. The Suloca was a Light Colonial Marine Carrier with a small compliment of fighters and drop ships. So if you wanted to refer to it as a mothership it could make sense. It just did not carry anything near as large as the Nostromo or Prometheus.

"Does "Lorentz Transformation" really have Nothing to do with Time Travel? I am genuinely curious." No. Relativity tell us that time is perceived differently in different referencials. So we have time dilatation inside a spaceship travelling at relativistic (near "c", the speed of light) velocities. This boils down to the "twins paradox" of Einstein: if you put one in a spaceship and mantains the other in Earth, when the travelling one comes back to Earth his brother will be biologically much older, since the time in the spaceship passes more slowly. The Lorentz equation allows you to calculate this, given the speed. The problem is, nothing here allows "faster than light" travel. If you travel sufficiently near "c", the speed of light, time will pass very very slow, and you will feel it as a flash. If your ship travels at a significant fraction of "c", time will pass faster but still will be apreciable. This is why they probably need the cryochambers: the full travel (there and back) would take almost 80 years, but even if it means, like, four years to the crew, it would still mean that you should spend resources to life-supporting the crew _ better put them in the ice then. There are some reasons for the ship don´t travelling near "c": the more you approaches this speed, more power you need. Also, the space is not a real vacuum; small particles in the interstellar space would almost certainly wear off the "prometheus" carcass (that´s why Arthur C Clarke imagines a smart precaution in one of his novels: the ship has it´s front covered in ice to mitigate this effect _ but "Prometheus" lacks this kind of protection, it seems).

@ Chimera... agreed - I was referring to the dropship itself... not the Sulaco. Sorry if i was unclear.

Spartacus, Sorry, just concluding: The relativistic effects of travelling near "c" are not the same as "time travel". Well, we all "time travel", as time passes. This is the same, only, time slows for the travellers. And in no circunstance, of course, you can travel back in time.

We all need a new topic. We have beeten this bird to death already!

thats ok piter, i simply disagree. to me the prometheus is definately closer to the size of a drop ship than it is to the Nostromo. i never said they were the same size, but the nostromo was MASSIVE. evidence just in the fashion in which the two ships land. the Prometheus glides in and sets down in stride, and is an older (less advanced) ship, while the nostromo comes in like a tractor trailer backing into a NYC alleyway. and the fact that there is little evidence that there is a mother ship in the trailers only leads me to believe it could be part of the twist. also, as mentioned, we dont see the prometheus traveling through space, only entering the planets atmosphere.

"Gotcha" Centrosphere, Thanks man.

@yhms ... FLT = Faster Than Light ;) ...

@Gem...thanks, thats what I figured. the Nostromo and Sulaco didnt have that capability did it? or does anyone know that?

@ Sparti... So, what that favorite Ripley line you referred to? I love their overlapping dialog when they take off and land. "Umbilicus clear!" "Prime the Port!" "Drop us any time - We'll catch you." etc...

When she's pissed at Ash about 3/4's of the way through the film she says... [b]"I find that hard to believe"[/b]...LMFAO. in reponse to the fact that he has informed her he is "still "co-lating"

After looking at the diagrams and schematics of Nostromo, my guess is that it looks to be possibly close to twice the size of the Prometheus.

The Nostromo was a tug, i would say it would be simular in size to Prometheus. By that i dont expect either to be more than double the size of the other. [img]http://th00.deviantart.net/fs14/PRE/f/2007/079/d/b/NOSTROMO_3D_Studio_Model_view3_by_proteus6007.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.cineweekly.com/images/feature-book-review-alien-vault-03.jpg[/img] [img]http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6213/6301464406_648c365b6d_z.jpg[/img] As for the Mothership in this movie i think that ship may be either the Space Jockeys or some other Race, but its not Human. And i dont think Prometheus needs a Mother Ship to get to it LV223.

@yhms ... Also you DO actually see Prometheus in space for a short time before she descends onto the planet ... watch: Prometheus - Trailer 2 2.30min [18 Mar 2012] [iTunes] ... ;) ...

@BigDave......I agree 100%.