Hoping the 'operation' isn't the 'money shot'

I don't know, really Ridley show part of the scene of the money shot in the trailer? Personally I do not think so. Let's see what has been revealed in the trailers: 1 - The entire appearance of the Space Jockey and his legendary suit (unless of course that it is a human or android using the suit as it seems to be very small and very short arms) 2 - Part of the scene of the squid born Shaw 3 - Scenes on the infection and the mutants (worms, smoking his helmet, etc) 4 - Enigmatic and mysterious arts murals (one of them reveals a familiar creature). But what we have not been shown yet? A: The appearance of new monsters (thank God). We have seen some of the initial phase of the mutations but not the final stage. So I think it's very likely that the money shot is closely related to the monsters and not the squid or the Space Jockey. Seen in the trailer is just the beginning of everything and it is possible that everything is connected in some way IMHO of course.

It's been reported that the last 8-10 minutes were done on a closed set limited to the actor/s [no one knows] and a minimum crew. The trailer editors didn't have this footage. Few have seen it. The special effect people for those scenes were working in isolation to keep it secret. I think whatever the shock is, it might happen there. No way they would put that shit in a trailer [I hope].

@Shane I dunno (I really hope you're right by the way.) But what I interpreted from Ridley's comments were that the trailer editors did not have access to the last 8 minutes of the film which contain the "Alien DNA". I also interpreted that there was a very limited crew and only Noomi present for the "Money Shot". If the above is correct, I think it means these are two different scenes. ( The last 8 minutes is one thing, and the "money shot" is another.) So the trailer editors did not have access to the last 8 minutes of the movie, but they did have access to the "closed set" footage Ridley mentioned.

I agree with @draekus, why? For the simple fact that Scott has said a million times that Prometheus is not an Alien movie. Ok maybe it has the same DNA, Easter eggs and the 8 minutes, but the money shot should be more directed towards the new story (Damon Lindelof said that a prequel must be original and not really easy to predict) Therefore the 8 minutes and the money shot are 2 different things IMHO of course.

There are reports both ways. On the avpgalaxy forums a few interesting posts came and went about the last 8-10 minutes and what surrounds them. Mostly that few have seen it, it was closed set and the SFX crew are working in isolation. Now if that scene from the trailer is the money shot, well, stupid to put it in a trailer with a rabid fan base. The shock of that scene has been killed for me because I thought about it quite extensively. And there is no way the massive amount of emotion Shaw would be feeling could ever be played out in a 2 hour movie to the depths that I, and probably others have already thought about. The scene has lost its impact on us. So I am hoping that isn't the money shot. The end is all their is to hope for.

Well it depends what you define as MONEY SHOT... A Money Shot? Or the Money Shot.... Does he mean Money Shot in terms of shock? Or as in importance to the Plot. @Shambhala Yes the movie is not soley about the Alien Xeno, a Alien Movie in the context would be about most of the movie having revolve around the Xeno. It depends what Ridley means by no Xeno DNA untill the end of the movie. A Planet of the Apes sequel could contain no Humans at all... but we could see Human DNA via our link to the Evolved Apes? When Ridley says Alien DNA i think he means actually any Organism related to these Organisms as they actually apear. [img]http://gentlemint.com/media/images/2012/02/19/3a3e0926.jpg.650x650_q85.jpg[/img] We will not see none of them, but then if he refers to them as Alien DNA, but we see it or a link to it at the end of the movie.... then maybe the end of the movie would have to show us. 1) Something from that cycle or that bears a early resemblence like Homo Sapiens to Humans. 2) Something that we can see cause the creation of the Eggs, or something or action that leads to what eventually Chest Burst out of the Space Jockey. Maybe Shaws Baby is the Proto Xeno? But if the movie has no Alien DNA but it has the Holloway Mutation etc and Shaws Squid Baby and thus they are not classed in Ridleys eyes as Alien DNA..... what then is that Alien DNA at the end of the movie?

[quote]Well it depends what you define as MONEY SHOT... A Money Shot? Or the Money Shot.... Does he mean Money Shot in terms of shock? Or as in importance to the Plot.[/quote] "Money Shot" is actually the term we (on the forum) have apparently started using to refer to the scene that Ridley said was on par in shock/awe value to the original Chestburster scene. I don't believe Ridley ever used the term "Money Shot" himself.

Also we have to maybe look at what Money shot is, and if its part of a Plot Movie that answer the questions asked. Dont forget this is not no stand alone Movie.. we are not seeing say what Predators is to AVP.... There are connections its based in the same Universe, will be based as Canon to the events of Weyland Yutani the corperation, and also Alien (but in smaller matter). The movies questions and what Ridley wanted to answer was... 1) What was the Derelic, what was it doing on LV426 2) Who was the Pilot, where did he come from, what was his mission. 3) Why was the Alien Eggs onboard and how did they get there. At that point and the conceptional point when Ridley must have first thoughht about touching up on those. 1) There was no direct or deep Questions about how the Eggs was created, how was the Xeno created and why. 2) There was no deep questions about the Evolution/History of the Pilot/Space Jockey. Those could be aswered in a simple context, such as the Jockey are a Ancient Space Fairing Race at War with some Race or on a mission to wipe out some other Race. With a Bio Weapon carried on board that ship. In detail you could cover that and make a direct link with Alien. I think Ridley changed his mind and wanted to only touch upon the reasons for the Eggs, or Xeno at the very end. He wanted to not make much of the plot on item 1) but go in depth with item 2) Thus adding the creation theory, thus adding and showing us some kind of Bio Tech that can be used to Teraform and Bio Form Organisms, creating new ones but for what purpose. Thats what he will be making the most of this movie about, at the end it will go to maybe explain the events that lead to what happend to the Derelict and Pilot on LV426 and how the Eggs get there. But in such a way that no other movie needs to be done on that subject because well that movie is already done i.e Alien/Aliens etc. Thus allowing him to branch out into another movie.... could that be what happens with Weyland Yutani, what happens to Shaw/Vickers/David. What happens to LV223 its temples, its Bio Forming Tech. Do we see any of them again? Are they all wiped out, do we see the Space Jockeys. Bascially apart from the Derelict that lands on LV426 its Pilot and Cargo, what else from this movie can be explored in a Prometheus Seqeul.

@draekus Indeed yes that could be what he is on about.... He does say there is a scene that rivals the Chest Burster, but i think he also said thats not the only shocking feature moment of the movie. Knowing Ridley, he is argant/proud and very competitive. Thus i think he would not want to just rival that scene, i think he would want to raise the bar again, and dont forget he has a massive budget and better technology as far as special effects to pull off a better scene than the Chest Burster. But we have seen the Shaw Baby, at first when i saw the trailer i spoted something, i slowed down and i thought the Squid was a Proto Face Hugger that the Company was trying to implant into Shaw. Only after carefull looking and noting other scenes did it become clear that we was seeing something being cut out of her. Casual viewers would not notice that in Trailers, they would not notice the Worm that gets into the Space Suit, they would not notice that the Jockey seems like he is being attached to the Chair. Only those who Analyse the footage would notice such details. Thus yes maybe that is the Money Shot as far as Rival Scene to Chest Burster. If so then it should not have been included in the Trailers even slightly, because if we never knew or saw that scene and then onlys saw it as it unfolds in the movie it would indeed be a massive suprise. As it stands to most of us who noticed it in trailers, it would be like someone watching the Star Wars Saga from 1-6 where by when it comes to the scene where Vader said "Obi Wan never told you about your father" Well that scene is not the suprise it was to those who watched the movie for first time before the Prequels.

@BigDave Alien DNA can be many things: -The environment and claustrophobic scenes with Shaw and the tall guy in the blue corner of the Prometheus (as Ripley in the Nostromo escape the Xenomorph) -The life cycle of parasites / worms. Born to the polls and then introduced into the body of their victims to give birth to a monster. -The parasites are just the beginning of a series of changes and processes with advancing the plot of the movie to make themselves more and more families. As this ejemplode see this photo (please do not assimilate it so literally, also is just a fan art) [img]http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x368/bipolarestancia/hggdf.png[/img] But this in turn would cause Prometheus is a traditional prequel and Damon Lindelof intended to create a prequel to the original ending (because according to his words there is nothing surprising if the viewer knows in advance the end of the story) Well, I guess I'm just a fan waiting for a big surprise and not something that I know in depth.

@Big Dave@ as a female who's'had a C-section (via epidural) where one is half awake and half dead not feeling pain but still feeling the movement when taking out the baby... Imagine it being a Hybrid baby and coming out of my body !!!AAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH I think I'll die of a stroke ,cardiac arrest or both. As a man I don't think it'll hav the same effect/ Shock value today is not the same as in 1979 but some things are just ntt right no matter what times we're in.

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Ok to cut it short, Alien DNA might be the actual sequence that creates the Alien monster. We will probably see different variations in the movie, but if they use the same process to create their creatures (alien life cycle), that will probably be the reason why Ridley said the creatures might look similar but not the same. The easters to alien mentioned might be the ship, SJ, the evolution of the dna sequence into the one for Alien. As for the link, it might just be the crash of the derelict in LV-426, maybe a shot of something trying to burst out of the SJ, and a shot of the eggs? @vixen dont be so quick to dismiss the effect a scene like that might have on a guy. If done correctly, it will scare the **** out of everyone, regardless of gender. Hell, i'd probably react the same way as you. And you're right, people are more desensitized today than 1979 so something's might not be as shocking anymore. I blame wars, technology and the exposure to material at a younger age than 30 years ago.

Now that I think of it, would a regular birth scene fall under the criteria of PG 13? Because regular birth could be scary enough to shock american audiences these days... Or could it be a literal abortion by having that medical arm just tear it out of her... yeah. Even if they don't show it in theaters, the words of the day are "director's cut" and "dvd sales". Would the born result make it the "stolen fire" of creation? Are they tying the Species-Franchise into the Alien/Predator mix? I'd be all for that one! :D