1 simple way for Derelict on 426

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MemberOvomorphApril 28, 20121337 Views20 RepliesOne simple explanation for the Derelict on LV-426, at the moment all hell breaks loose on LV-223, David, who figures out how the hologram and Nav systems works, re-programs the Derelict to fly to the closest planet of say LV-223 instead of ro Earth with its dangerous cargo.
April 28, 2012
so after the Juggernaut crashes into the surface of the planet after taking a hit from Prometheus (as seen in the trailer), David patches it up and sets it on its way?
April 28, 2012
I think it would be an awesome twist that the 'Juggernaut' on LV-426 is actually a mutated member of the 'Prometheus'.... Or something even more unexpected and outta left field..... I want that "The Sixth Sense" type curve ball
April 28, 2012
Could it be possible the derelict on LV-426 was sent out a long time ago? Perhaps thousands of years before the events that take place in Prometheus. Perhaps the engineers/SJs sent it out to "clean", up earth. Then a accident occurs and it crash lands on LV-426. What else could be the reason why Dallas says it looked like it had died a long time ago, be fossilized.
April 28, 2012
[quote]Or something even more unexpected and outta left field[/quote]
A crew member mutating into a huge spaceship? How much more unexpected could it possibly be? Hello?? I hope I misunderstood you there...
April 28, 2012
Lol...... NO! .... I meant the dead alien pilot, not the ship.... But that would be insane if someone turned into the 'Juggernaut'.... Ridiculous actually....but I'd bet Ridley could make it look interesting..... But still ridiculous, lol.
April 28, 2012
@AlsoKnownAsNate: Glad you clarified that mate, for a moment I thought... Sure Ridley could pull off something like that, but gladly he won't. At least I hope so. LOL
April 28, 2012
@Lexsidious
Ridley did state that the derelict technology is a million years old, and that the ship was landed, not crashed, landed. So who knows how long the ship has been there, but I believe it's been there for many many years before Prometheus.
April 28, 2012
I really have no idea how the derelict gets on lv-426 if it even does because in the trailer you can see the derelict crash with the temple on the background so thats not lv-426 but in my opinion it would be kinda stupid if this derelict isn't the derelict in alien...
I mean this movie would have nothing to do with alien only that we see who the space jockeys are but we woukd still have no idea how the derelict crashed on lv-426
April 28, 2012
Maybe THAT derelict on LV-426 was sent to kill is way back when. To get rid of some pesky creatures (us) made by one of them who was on our side but lost his power. It failed its mission- - didn't even make it too far from home. So, now that they've woken up, maybe they want to finish the job.
April 28, 2012
@ Logan3: Indeed it hasn't much more connections to ALIEN than this. Scott has said it many times and by now everyone must have got the message. He never wanted to make a 'prequel' to ALIEN, he wanted to ask unanswered questions, pick up and explore untouched mysteries from his original, then take it to a new direction. Why can't everyone let go and look forward?
"We will see strands of ALIEN DNA and there will be some easter eggs". The derelict ship and its spacejockey are most certainly some of them, alongside with the Zeta2 Reticuli system, Hypersleep pods, MUTHUR - the mainframe aboard the Nostromo/Prometheus, Weyland Industries (potentially Weyland Yutani) and so on... isn't that by far enough to be excited?
I'm also convinced that there will be at least one sequel to Prometheus which will have more links and ALIEN DNA, but also follow the path into the new direction even further (away), possibly to the home world of engineers or spacejockeys, but hopefully not xenomorphs. As Ridley said, it is in Disneyland now...
April 28, 2012
The only solution that I have not seen proposed is that Shaw does a royal job of sabotaging this bioinvasion, obliterating the possibility of recovery of any data, biological specimons, or crew. Having received enough information to catagorise, and theorize the possibilities if such biotechnology could be harvested Weyland Yutani would be MADLY searching for any additional remnants of that species. 37 years later, viola a faint signal is isolated in a remote star system not too far off commercial shipping lanes. Hmmm, we could reroute the Nostromo to check it out, as they will be passing close by astrologically speaking. If it turns out to be nothing, hey, no harm, no foul.
April 28, 2012
@ Ghost Solitare: I like that idea/theory apart from Weyland Yutani clearly knowing or assuming what is awaiting the crew of the Nostromo on LV-426 and considering this, the signal is probably not weak.
So you reckon she took the ship and parked it there, driving it herself?
April 28, 2012
That's one possibility, I got the feeling that the entire expedition is doomed. Nobody makes it out alive. No ships, no crew, no engineers, no SJ's. Weyland Yutani has to go on what information they did recieve from the expedition. The scene I recently saw with Janek in a spacesuit appears to be his examination of smashed equipment. Also from the photo's of prometheus indicating that it has an interstellar radio array, it just seemed like the first thing that's going to be destroyed, sabotaged, in order to isolate the expedition. The only way for Weyland Yutani to recover any remnant or potential profit from this failed recon expedition would be to find any trace of the SJ's elsewhere in the universe. With all our maps pointing to LV-223 (Frankly stellar nomenclature be damned) the discovery of a signal from a downed SJ ship would be like discovering gold to the settlers in historic CA. I say the signal is weak because if this was a regular traffic route between Thedus and Sol, it would have been detected by probes like the Heliades, or other commercial towing vessels. Hell even wildcat mercenaries with some decent radio equipment would have isolated it from the background noise and investigated. In fact, who's to say it didn't happen, or wont in a possible sequel.
April 28, 2012
@hal 9000 I'm very exited for the movie and I wouldn't like for ridley to have to make a movie that he has to adapt for it to fit in with alien
I just wanna see the best possible scifi movie and I have a feeling ridley might just have done it!
but I just don't understand how the derelict won't be the derelict from alien because ridley said that the last 8 minutes would sorta tie in with alien and I assume that he means the crash of the derelict because it would be kinda weird for ridley to say specifficaly the last 8 minutes if the only tie in with alien would be the backstory of the space jockeys which I presume will be a major theme thoughout the entire movie...
any thoughts about that?
April 28, 2012
@Ghost Solitare: I coudn't possibly agree more. Great to read someone's words with a good knowledge/opinion of the story, being very similar to mine. This version of a tie-in between Prometheus and Alien sounds very believable and reasonable to me.
But if Shaw or anyone else would have driven the ship to crash/park it nearby, wouldn't the crew of the Nostromo have found remains of her/him 30 years later? Would they have found something when examining the 'suit' of the space jockey further, if they didn't have priorities like saving Kane?
Haha, unfortunately I'd say even Ridley doesn't know the answer to that.
April 28, 2012
@Logan3: Believe me, I'm just as excited as you and anyone else about hopefully a new masterpiece and milestone in fim making. Ridley has stated a few times that the last 8 minutes will tie in with ALIEN, but he never said it will happen in this way.
And to be honest, if it did happen this way, ending with a scene with the derelict ship slowly disappearing into thick fog (he loves fog), then I'd be rather disappointed. This might eventually be seen in a 1st or even 2nd prequel to this, I'd love that! But for now there's a different story to tell...
April 29, 2012
We just dont know for sure what the explanation could be.
Who can say that the Derelict could take a hit and still fly, there is no proof in Trailers that the ship is destroyed.
But the ship does not have the 4 sarcophagus in Alien that the one in Prometheus has.
Ridley also hinted it had parked and it could be millions of years old. Now i kinda buy the parking if a emergency or none planned parking. As for Millions of years... maybe thats how old it is but thats not to say how long its been on LV426.
I could go buy a 1965 Mustang thats near 50 years old, and then park it on my drive for 6 months, the car is 47 years old but only parked for 6 months.
I think that something happened between the Xeno and the Engineers and it got out of hand, so they decided after they contained the threat to then take the other samples/eggs and take them somewhere far away but something happened during that mission.
I liken it to say Scientists invent a vacince that goes wrong, a bit like the plot of I am Legend movie, now image if we managed to prevent the outbreak from killing all mankind and contained//wiped out the threat.
Instead of destroying the Vacine we decide to store it somewhere else far away, and set off to stick it on say Mars but then the pilot gets infected while on his mission and decides to land on the moon then warn Earth of what happened.
Its this scenerio i think will explain the Derelict on LV426.[size=50][/size]
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April 29, 2012
With only two possibilities existing I can't honestly say which one has a better feel as far as tying the two films together. I would prefer that Ridley was allowed to make this story seperate and distinct yet connected through a thread of commonality. In that I mean that the two ships are seperate, so you aren't looking for any of the Prometheus crew onboard that ship on LV426. As it is a representation of Engineer technology Weyland Yutani would be lusting after it like a new bride over diamonds. If the earlier expedition were no longer viable to produce ANY recoverable materials, data, artifacts then this SECOND SJ ship would be their only AS YET available source for all things ALIEN. The other side of the arguement is that someone flew it there and set it down in a controlled fashion, but if you wanted to protect Sol from the cargo onboard why would you send out any kind of detectable radio emission? Notice I refrain from calling the ship the J word. As this was not in the original film and it conveys very specific meaning none of which is elegant, or even remotely intriguing I won't use it even if it's canon, and that's MY prerogetive.
April 29, 2012
Thats why i am going for maybe that the Derelict landed on LV426 before Prometheus landed on LV223.
What ever killed those Jockeys and what ever made the Holograms seem to run for their lives could be what was inside the Cargo Bay of the Alien Derelict, some how and for some reason the Engineers was exposed to the Xeno and they contained them and shipped what ever was left to somewhere.
only what that mission was, was it to take them to a place where they could be quarantined for latter use, or somewhere to destroy them or even somewhere to unleash them, hopefully we will find out.
But i think that the Xenos was being taken away somewhere but then had to instead settle on LV426.
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