Not a good idea...

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MemberOvomorphMay 02, 20121902 Views36 RepliesNot a good idea to bring in a foreign article inside the only ship that can take you home. After seeing the clip and stills where the helmet or head of the engineer is inspected (and probably explodes in some fashion), it seems that they may have made a mistake in bringing that thing inside the Prometheus. It would have been better to assemble a peripheral unit to handle those kinds of tasks it would seem. Like a decontamination trailer outside the ship for example. Pure speculation of course. BTW, it is funny how R.S. says the movie deals with true things of something that MAY be true (paraphrasing); essentially he is negating his own statement...
May 02, 2012
Why don't they take care? They're preoccupied!
Here's what they're all thinking:
Shaw: "we're invited, we're invited!"
Holloway: "I'm gonna rock the grad lounge when I get back!"
Vickers: "I recall a spider's web, and a pregnant spider, and one day..."
Janek: "This thing handles better than the ore hauler I've been driving"
Milburn: "I'm so smart"
Fifield: "Don't kill anyone. Don't kill anyone. Don't kill anyone"
David8: "Trololololo"
That's why they don't pay as much attention as they should.
May 02, 2012
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@paulr
I am also an agnostic (if not an atheist), but I'm able to see the word "spiritual" in the context that @Newt79 has used it as not requiring a [url=http://www.venganza.org/][b]FSM[/b][/url] icon to go along with it.
S/he has since commented further: [i]“I'm hoping Prometheus is not a completely nihilistic exercise.”[/i]
I couldn't agree more.
But, I've recently acquired the Alien Anthology Blu-Ray “extravaganza” and am watching all of the films and the COUNTLESS hours of bonus blah-blah and I’m quite hopeful that Prometheus will be multi-layered and complex. And, that it may be able through its ideas to shift the dialogue (or non-dialogue) away from more black and white terms like theism vs. deism vs. agnosticism vs. atheism to simply talking about "hope for humanity." That invariably involves something here or there about "human spirit" and there's the 'spirit' again.
I'd have more respect for both adamant religious folks and die-hard atheists if the two groups could have civilized conversations with each other. If anyone has that link to that video, please share. ;•)
I don't think the film will be commercially viable if it is utterly nihilistic. I'm counting on at least one feisty human and a cat or so to make it through. Maybe a feisty human and a robot...
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May 02, 2012
The kind of people who would be willing to sleep for two years and go to a place where rescue is impossible and visit a being that could very well pose a danger....those kinds of people are "risk takers." They may be willing to take chances that to you and I might seem foolhardy. With the greatest risk comes the greatest rewards.
That said, I can't imagine a biologist anywhere who would go right up to a creature they could potentially study, or even put their limbs in its vicinity. So the idea of Milburn doing that does seem implausible. Ugh.
May 02, 2012
It is the spirit of adventure, it's human nature right? The opprotunity of a life time for the Prometheus crew. I guess some people would rather watch robots ride the rides at Disneyland.........
May 02, 2012
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@ sakkal & paulr
Thanks, sakkal. I really wasn't trying to get into any religious debate. I was just hoping that 'Prometheus' wouldn't end up being the ultimate dispiriting horror film where by the end the audience just feels hopeless & spent (as in, "I spent over $10 to feel this way?"). Ideally you'd like to feel "Wow! What amazing thrill ride!" What made the best of the Alien movies worth watching was having at least one sympathetic being to root for to survive their crucible of terror.
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@40mercury: I'm with you. If it's just a film about robots, most people can't get too emotionally invested in it. I think that's partially why Speilberg's A.I. didn't do so well, brilliant as it is. You were supposed to feel more for the machines than the humans and that's a tall order for the average person (I'm including myself here).
May 02, 2012
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@sukkal & @paulr
Yes thanks, sukkal, you clarified my point. I had no interest in getting into any sort of religious debate, pro or con. I meant "spirit" more in terms of 'dispiriting' and leaving the audience completely deflated & hopeless versus exhilerated.
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@40mercury: I'm with you, a movie just about robots would not engage the average person emotionally. I include myself here. This is partially why Speilberg's A.I. didn't do so well at the box office, brilliant though it may be. The mainstream audience just wasn't willing to embrace sympathizing more with machines over human beings. (Its 'downer' ending didn't help either)
May 03, 2012
I don't look for the movie as a whole to be nihilistic. Even in the Greek Tale of Prometheus, after Pandora shows up and releases her 'jar' of woes upon mankind, at the end, hope remained. It may have been still trapped inside the urn, but the myth says that it was still there.
May 03, 2012
I think all the woes are trapped in Alien3. (That film (2003 release) is tragic! In [u]EVERY[/u] way.)
Sir Scott, perfect example of what NOT to do in your return to the franchise.
May 03, 2012
I wish Alien 3 never happened.
In regards to the 'ignoring quarantine protocol' meme [i]again[/i] - ah well, if it wasn't for human error, there wouldn't be any story would there?
May 03, 2012
Newt79 posted:
"I wish Alien 3 never happened.
In regards to the 'ignoring quarantine protocol' meme again - ah well, if it wasn't for human error, there wouldn't be any story would there?"
Stupidity is a convenient device for getting people into difficult situations, but it is [i]not[/i] an absolute necessity. For instance, explorers could take realistic precautions against contamination/infection, yet still become contaminated/infected because of the insidious nature of whatever the threat might happen to be. it worked that way in "The Andromeda Strain," for example.
May 03, 2012
@Newt79.
I too am glad that a religious debate didn't ensue. My wife has some extreme religious views that I don't particularly share (however, I certainly do respect her and wouldn't want her any other way). I have 4 sons (14, 12, 10 & 9 and a daughter, 18, that lived with my first wife and has since moved out) and I have allowed each to make their own choices. I don't mind going to Church because I know it pleases my wife and brings the family closer together. My own beliefs, I have learned (now at the age of 40), are quite "immaterial" (unimportant). As a friend of mine used to say, "It's not all about you, _______."
May 04, 2012
@Macs: I'm also hoping that the 'breaking quarantine protocol' meme would at least be handled in a much different way so it's not same ol' same ol.' An 'alien as virus' film does not make me want to run to the theater, so I'm hoping it's much more than that.
@abordoli: I'm a happy Earth creature myself who is fully comfortable with the idea that Adam & Eve most likely looked like lemurs, depending on how far back in primate time you want to go... Lemurs are cute, smart, and matrilineal. Just like meerkats. What's not to love about meerkats?
May 04, 2012
@Macs: I'm also hoping that the 'breaking quarantine protocol' meme would at least be handled in a much different way so it's not same ol' same ol.' An 'alien as virus' film does not make me want to run to the theater, so I'm hoping it's much more than that.
@abordoli: I'm a happy Earth creature myself who is fully comfortable with the idea that Adam & Eve most likely looked like lemurs, depending how far back in primate time you want to go... Lemurs are cute, smart, and matrilineal. Just like meerkats. What's not to love about meerkats?