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How a Derelict Works!

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Ender

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[img]http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/2npb8ao6tt5gzsif9q.jpg[/img] Talk of the derelict spinning in flight were fairly common back when we were looking at + 140 days on the countdown. It seems to have died down of late but I think its a sound theory. Maybe the Derelict spins as it flies to facilitate time travel! I think the cockpit stays stationary as the rest of the ship spins around at high velocity allowing time to pass either forward or backwards outside the cockpit while the occupants remain unaffected. So basically the cannon and sarcophagi in the spherical centre of the ship are the traveling quarters of the Space Jockeys much like our cryo chambers. As much as I think time travel will not improve Prometheus, I think it will feature. There is no other way to explain the Jockeys appearance over the primordial waterfall on Earth or the vast intergalactic distances achieved by the SJ's which are implied by the star map. Just a theory, fingers crossed there will be no time travel but considering the evidence - its a distinct possibility.

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Newtella
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@Ender: Where do you FIND this stuff, man? I can see the spinning being an great defense mechanism too during travel... @takka3: That pic of Doc had me is Stitches!!! * 5 stars*
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It is an original interpretation, never heard about it. Though my first though was: if that's how it works, what kind of acid eggnog would have Kane found down there instead of neatly stored eggs?
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
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OMG. It's like a giant game of Horseshoes!
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I refuse to comment on time travel, I may in the future. I have assumed for the last ten yrs because I had a very long time before that. That the Delrelict/Juggernaught/Jockeynaught Folds space. That the ship just gets out of a planets gravity well and disappears, like stepping between rooms... leaves one to enter another. It explains to my overactive brain the star map (choose where you want to go). Place or enter information (Console holo-type thing) and between the pilot, focused energies by the chair, away it goes. It's just a theory, but it stops my brain hurting!
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INTERESTING....
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Ender
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@ NoXWord - good point on the scrambled eggs, thought someone might spot that. Maybe the egg chambers are located under the cockpit in the centre of the craft that doesn't spin?
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I have always thought the one 'arm' of the ship looks just like a hammer, lol. Anyone have any ideas how the ship would defend itself? (If it even does, might not be a war ship?)
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"I refuse to comment on time travel, I may in the future." [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-X_rGuLRJNEo/T4zyH5zcfHI/AAAAAAAABg0/dtZHqKSyJNo/s1600/doc_brown-full-1.jpg[/img]
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Interesting.... But call it the [i]JUGGERNAUT[/i]
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artyoh
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It really is the perfect name for that ship, given what we've seen in the trailers.
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That damned time travel again! I was almost forgetting it!
Have you heard of phoenix asteroids? They glow in every color of the rainbow...they travel endlessly through space...
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@Ender basically we have found a way to prepare the famous EGGS DERELICT recipe
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
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Maybe the 'Juggernaught' as it flies parallel to the world below begins to rotate in the spinning action of a propeller. Turning on revolution after another over and over itself yet inside the SJ's 'Telecommunications' seat I guess remains stationary and as was stated somewhere above almost existing both 'inside' yet 'outside' the space-time continum. Very inetresting idea. The 'chair' would be like it was on a 'gimbal' yet it would be the ENTIRE shipITSELF that would be acting like the gimbal but just spinning around the chair as it remains 'stationary' during flight.
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All I know is that if it is capable of flight, ITS NOT A DERELICT! This is really starting to drive me up the wall.
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Ender
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@ NoXWord - EGGS DERELICT!!! Genius!
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finally an original idea. i like, even if it would turn out to be different, i relly like it. about scrambled eggs..if its sophisticated enough to spin and create a timewarp, who knows how the insides of the ship works. plus, its a made up story, not a documentary.

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That's a very cool idea.... [b]BUT[/b] i think it will look to silly. i know how it looks shouldn't be a problem, but this is a movie after all, and non fans will be watching, and seeing that thing spin would look strange. plus on the saucer we can clearly see textures, showing that it is one solid mass, not something spinning really fast.
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Then the Juggernaut is a great pan for cooking delicious omelettes. PS: I wonder if they serve bacon?
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@Ender I'm sure I remember Scott calling it an egg-silo a ways back.
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Can't have Alien bacon without Alien Eggs :-P
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Mmmmm. Alien bacon.
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Poor, poor facehuggers [img]http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x368/bipolarestancia/scrambled-eggs.jpg[/img]
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You cant be serious EVERYTHING on the ship would have to be bolted down because the centrifugal force would hurl it out against hull. The center of the ship would have to be a seperate segment for it to stay stationary. The images we have seen show the ship as a single piece.
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or maybe it's through a wormhole as in "Contact" [img]http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x368/bipolarestancia/11357450_gal.jpg[/img]
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Also pretty hard to ram your ship into the back of it if it spinning. Hate to be stuck in one if the prongs - it would be like riding on one if those Vomitron rides at the carnivals.
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I hope it didn't come across that I was in agreement about the ship spinning, because to my little brain it seems preposterous!
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@ MidnightHorrors - they already bolt stuff down on ships, its called "stowing" I dont think that would be a problem for the Engineers. Plus look at the star cannon and the sarcophagi. They look like they're mounted on a turntable - designed for the ship to rotate around them.
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in fact the idea of time travel is not very original, is an easy way to explain it all or as many would prefer to call "Occam's razor"
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Yes, you are right there too up to a point, invaderzim42
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If this were any other film..it would be really ingenious..but those pictograms are really old....I don't see how time travel would come into play. Edit-...the strobo effect WOULD present just such an image as a soild disk
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It could perhaps function to something of a similar nature a the 'phenomenon' that created The sPhilidelphia Experiment where-by machine generators called: Degaussers rappidly spun in either a clockwise or anti-clockwisemontion. The effect in-turn created an alleged feed-back loop that 'caused' the Eldri dge to supposedly 'de-construct' it's photon-molecular structure and 'phase-out' of existence. If not out of existence then certainly out of sight thats for damn sure!!! Out form the Philidelphia harbour. Maybe the 'Juggernaught' if it spins which inevitalbly i don't think it will would maybe do something simmilar. Just thought provoking thats all.
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It's o.k. W2rh0und. We may not put you into the Egg silo just yet. But at the same time, I'M GOING to be WATCHING you!!! lol!
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They connect (dock) with much larger ships that orbit the universe.
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Or in the great words of the master.... Derek Zoolander Derelict [img]http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj553/klaatu67/derelicteimages.jpg[/img]
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how about [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/3184]this[/url]?
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I always thought the shape of the ship was the depiction of influencing specific interactions of nano particles, interacting in concert with each other while effecting larger particles to create lift. The shape could reflect the way macro Newtonian physics and quantum physics interacts, unifying in a very specific way, reflecting the shape of the derelict or juggernaut. Just a thought.
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Well we dont see it like that in the movie, and this is just got to be a fan made idea. This does not make the Juggernaught apear like a Flying Saucer as it does in the Water Fall scene i dont buy it. Also landing a object that flys as such would be hard as the craft is not semetric enough. Go throw a Boomerang and then a Stick thats shaped a bit like one and compare, this craft would be better designed to be more streamlined if it was indended to be flown in that manner.

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Ender
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This is obviously a fan made idea! I'm suggesting the ship only spins while in space not atmospheric flight. Maybe the spin function doesn't provide for time travel, but I think the ship does spin due to the rotational nature of the cockpit. I can't see any other methods of propulsion that are obvious on the ship so possibly the rotating facilitates some sort of forward motion? Who knows Obviously the tech on the SJ's is not meant to be comprehendible to us or anyone for that matter since its entirely fictional.
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Sorry guys but you can't be serious?!? This is utter nonsense, technically as well as in any other aspect. The simple displacement of a huge mass like this would spiral out of control in seconds, tearing the ship into shreds!! If the the 'cockpit/starmap room was in the center of mass, it would still be virtually impossible. But hey, we're talking science-fiction here... I know.
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Ender....great post! @newtella....I agree the spinning would be a great defense mechanism. What is the problem with all you guys and time travel? i happen to find it fascinating. Does that make me a faux Alien fan??? I think not.

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