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What happened to the alien that came from the SJ?

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mango4739

MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 1:33 PM
What do you guys think happened to the Alien that came from the SJ in the first Alien movie? Did it just die in a corner somewhere?
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Spawn23

MemberOvomorphMay-11-2012 1:28 AM
YEA seems VERY INTERESTING to know what happen to the Alien that came out form the SpaceJockey.. MAYBE that was the ALIEN MOTHER - which was in the 2nd MOVIE ( ALIENS ) - I miss all the characters! =)

Mark Cawley

MemberOvomorphMay-11-2012 3:47 AM
What gets me though is ........the hole in the floor is quite large so a fair bit of acid must be used. Which means that it probably wasnt a chestburster being killed in the Jockeys dying throws......but surely after the chestburster the Jockey is dead......so what killed the chestburster or xeno enough for it to bleed so much to make a hole that large in the floor? Its the old chicken and the egg thing init? Plus whatever bled enough to make that hole would still be down there somewhere......a skeleton at least.

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteMay-11-2012 4:33 AM
Chicken and the Egg? Seriously... everyone knows the egg came first: Dinosaurs - Birds - Chickens. Simple. I know a lot of people mention things like "Originally intended" or "in the novelization" or "the original script" to support their arguments. And most will know I don't. One version of Alien as originally intended would have had a turkey-like chestburster (Gigers first design), an starwars-like Alien (Ron Cobbs first design) born from metal urns inside a pyramid (sounds familar) with an all male crew. Films change during production for many reasons, and especially in the case of Alien, these changes are meant to improve the final product. the final product is what matters, not original intentions. Now to the question in hand, the space Jockey born Alien. Firstly it aint the Queen, the derelict was carrying a cargo of eggs (Ridleys words) which were protected by a layer of laser-mist. The hole was likely made by the facehugger on its way up. The Alien in question has not yet been seen, and is yet another unanswered question from Alien, which could/should be explored in another film. But its not a queen...

grub

MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 1:55 PM
Maybe it wasn't an alien. What if it's an exit wound from a bullet? (that would piss me off, to be honest, I [b]want[/b] an alien to pop out!)

LV 223 WRECK

MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 2:02 PM
making eggs some where of the Silo

Xenophobia

MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 2:02 PM
Nahh!! Scott said that he's retired and off to Disney World.

C0nst2nt1n3

MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 4:32 PM
The simplest explanation is also the least exciting. The eggs were already on the sj ship. One somehow managed to hatch and implant the sole sj pilot. Once the ship set down on the nearest planet and emerged from the sj, it was alone as the sole sj died when it emerged. The alien was probably just a drone and with no other living things to cocoon, it simply died off and its remains long since decayed.

Videojoe

MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 5:17 PM
The theory of a bullet exit wound does not work because in Alien next to the SJ was an acid hole. So there was a Xeno on that ship at some point in time. The Xeno probably died in or out of the ship. There will always be something left unanswered but that's the only logical possibility.

Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else

MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 8:35 PM
I think you can infer and I like to think that the alien is leaving a 'legacy' for itself if you will but the facehugger that 'gets' the Space Jockey at first would have perhaps 'come out' like a standard 'Grunt/Soldier/Worker' Alien chestbursterwhen surrounded by the instictive fact that there is an entire 'local colony' to hnd to 'fall-back on' as it were. But because what ever callamity befalls the Space Jockey and if/when he 'lands/crash lands' back upon the planetoid surface, the embryo thats already inside him perhaps or the lone face-hugger that is yet to hatch and 'find him' knows now by a priveval instinct that it is now in some way seperated form the prior colony (if there was one) as a whole. So, the developing embryo or hiding face-hugger yet to implant SJ victim begins an internal metamorphasis effect, chemically so when the 'birthin' process is complete, the Alien Xeno has taken steps to turn itself into a Queen Chest burster or Queen-creating Face hugger to be. As a redundancy, and effectively an entire new colony is born out of being isolated from its former one. The species goes into a redundancy mode for self-preservation purposes. The queen is produced, and fills the ENTIRE SJ silo form top to bottom with thousands of eggs and for some reason dissapears off to create an entire Bio-Egg silo from its own secreted resins farther away from the now abandoned 'Derilict'. And she has been there for a very long time. The other thing is Newts parents help to gernerate a Queen alien and the colony quickly begin to get taken over by the infecting process. I would think its cycle would allow for a coulpe of Grunts to get created first to begin systematically setting things in motion and clearing the path for the Queen to be born and nurtured to maturity to help mass-produce the entire colony in a different location ever after again. And the process is cyclical.

Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else

MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 8:51 PM
In the novel as in the script when the three from the Nostromo enetr the interior of the 'Derilict' and Kane drops down the verticle shaft to investigate the lower 'decks' that is the 'Silo/Egg Chamber' he apparantly looks at his feet and upwards slowly until he is staring up at the 'chamber 'ceiling' and there he can see as well as straight ahead of him and below hundreds of thousands of tiny little dots, like ovoids. Upon closer inspection they look much like leathery urns. But while they were entering the @Derilict' and came up to the point where Kane climbs up to see the SJ sitting in his fossilized position they pass by what they percieve to be a broken looking pot shape with apparent open petals 'flowering' out from the top. it was brittle and beginning to crumble into dust and did so when Kane or one of them atemted to touch it with their gloved hand. It reads something like that, check it out. Interesting take on things because that implies as we know the Xeno eggs can lie 'dormant' in a kind of 'stasis condition' for near an eternity if they have to until a suitable host happens by. So, because this egg shell is in the 'sprung' open-petal position and is becoming brittle due to exposure to the external elements, you can infer that this 'Derilict' has been laying here for an EXTREME amount of time! And if so, and there was an opend egg then where is it that was hatched from it. Could have been killed during the impact of the crash...

aliennut1980

MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 11:54 PM
very interesting were can i find this book

abordoli

MemberOvomorphMay-10-2012 1:27 AM
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Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else

MemberOvomorphMay-11-2012 10:23 AM
A point can be raised, the ship was carrying cargo. Yes, the ship ('Juggernaught' perhaps) was carrying 'A' cargo and that was Ridley's words yes, that is true on the one hand. Yet upon the other it can also be equally true simultaneously, just because the 'Jeggernaught'/'Derilict' was carrying 'A' cargo of 'something' does not yet mean that bcause of that it was carrying 'THE' cargo of Xeno's. By definition, the cargo haul's might be full or at least partly full with/by something, but still there is no evidence that the origins of that were the alien Xeno's. It could have be something prior to that that we are as yet not been given the heads-up on but nay be revealed within the Prometheus film. The Xenos can still have effectively featured after-the-fact and are a seperate problem from the 'cargo' what ever 'it' could have been at first. It's one way to go to thinl about, Iknow, may not turn out to be true, but who knows. And incidentally, how do we not know that the Xeno's incubation period and the process as a whole slows down when in contact with the SJ's race. It is known that the Xeno life cycle facehugger to embryo to grunt is what we have already been shown, a relatively 'SHORT' 'gestation' period. Well how do we not know that the adaptive qualities the Xenos are thought to posess in regards to its survivability has to go at the rate to that of its host. With humans its realatively short process from facehugger attack to 'birthing' of the small alien. So in an infected 'SJ/Bio-Engineer' the whole incubation process for their race is a slow, ponderous one. A month before the alien hatches out, two months even! Who knows.
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