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mango4739
MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 1:38 PMI have a question...
If there was a facehugger on the ship at the end of Aliens / beggining of Alien 3, how did it manage to infect Ripley and then the dog / ox?
I thought facehuggers could only infect once and then die?? There was only one egg so there should have only been one facehugger. Was this one 'special' so it could infect twice??
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fanboy79
MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 1:48 PMwell we know the facehugger dies after it impregnates the host, but we dont know the life cycle inbetween hatching. from aliens there were facehuggers in the tube still alive when the comment was made to burke yea he likes you...lol
the ones that infected ripley could have come off the queen whom we know boarded the ship...we also know Newts cyro was sealed by acid so maybe the one that tried to infect her is the one that got the dog that was always my understanding. Since we saw ripley shot the egg sack of the queen doesn t mean she wasnt still producing some may be it just fell out as she was on board the last two or three eggs she had that was coming down the hatch ....so to speak.

DestinyCaptain
MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 1:51 PMToo many chefs in the kitchen. Muttled production. No clearly defined story. A star who doesn't fully understand the franchise. A good director that was never really allowed to do their job. A bigger question is when did the Queen leave the landing bay to drop the eggs in the sleep chamber? How and why did she stick one of them to the wall. In spite of this the film is not aweful, just disappointing.

mango4739
MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 2:18 PMYes I agree with you DestinyCaptain, how did the queen get the eggs in the sleep chamber?
I think the extended DVD version of Alien3 was much better than the theatrical version. Obviously no comparison to Alien but was ok none the less...

Xenomorph 54
MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 4:42 PMMany fans have suggested that the facehugger that impregnates the queen has also the ability to impregnate two hosts before dying.
Personally, I think that suggestion is too theorical, I found easier to accept that there were two eggs in the sulaco.
That will always remain as a mistery, how could the queen lay the eggs without the eggsack? It's just a plothole, but it was necessary to make Alien 3. Maybe she created another eggsack during the journey?
Have you heard of phoenix asteroids?
They glow in every color of the rainbow...they travel endlessly through space...

Videojoe
MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 5:11 PMThis is the most puzzeling part of the series! Every time this question comes up I get fired up. Who knows how many eggs? It could be a dozen. They only show one on film but it could have just been to get the point across. Hey viewers. Somehow Aline eggs are on the Sulaco. It was not fair to leave that part unexplained. Worst part about alien 3 is that it doesn't add up. How did they get there. I thought that the escape ship that gets destroyed halfway through Aliens may have taken an alien uboard the Sulaco while waiting to make a pickup but I just recently watched it and it turned out they were on the planet in another area waiting. Spunkmyer notices the slime but he was outside so I have no clue.
The eggs falling out of the queens hoo haa is a possibility but eggs don't walk so they would have gotten sucked out of the airlock. This should have been addressed before production ever started on Alien 3. As far as plot hole with the multiple embryo face hugged, in the directors cut there was a different kind of facehugger. It was a queen facehugger which carries the queen embryo and is capable of impregnating twice. No info given in the movie about that again. Fox got greedy and couldn't wait to make the film. It is because of that greed and lack of integrity that we under up with Alien Ressurection. They cloned her DNA and she ended up with memories and had an Alien child. More plot holes here than Alien 3 but because Alien 3 was half descent the one seriouse plot hole was blown up. If Alien 3 would have made sense we may have gotten a better fourth film. Thanks Fox for ruining another great franchise. Only thing Fox has done right since Alien 3 was allow an R rated Prometheus. Thank god Ridley Scott is back in the Directors Chair. Just wish he would have made a film about the xenos instead of that Robin Hood film. I hope they bring back the Xeno for another film and don't have them fighting Freddy Kreuger.

C0nst2nt1n3
MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 5:15 PMThe movie makers won't let plot holes get in the way of telling a story. The alien lifecycle should have stopped Alien 3 from getting made and while we're at it, Ripley dying at the end iof Alien 3 should have stopped Alien Resurrection from being made. I could probably accept the Queen laying eggs in the landing gear of the dropship and the queen facehugger implanting more than one host, but unless it is actually shown in the movie then it is just a plot hole.

Videojoe
MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 5:25 PMExactly. Plothole. Nothing more to say. It's intertaining to hear people try to explain what is unexplained. Maybe it makes them feel better for liking the film but hey, I like Alien 3. The alien looks great. Even though the chestburster is as big as the dog when it bursts out of him but that is because it was originally intended to come out of an Ox. In that case it made sense but then Fox thought it would make more since to kill a dog. That may make less sense then an unexplained egg. The chestburster was FKN HUGE! if a chestburster exited a dog that is smaller than a human then how would the damn thing be that big. It should have been smaller.

Dirge0822
MemberOvomorphMay-10-2012 2:20 AMOk I know the Movies are 100% and that's what everything else is based off of. Now to take into account all the video games and comic's Data then things become more clear. Now I need not flaming from you all I'm just saying, In MOST cases the life cycle of a face huger is one seed. Now to look at Alien Extinction that lets you in on the queen facehugger then its also one seed. Now I've always been on the side of Newts facehugger was the one who got the dog. But I'm open if I find something more believable. Now as for the Queen on the Sulaco, its not out of the realm of possibility's that the queen was still had a few Eggs left in the stove.

Andrew Nugent
MemberOvomorphMay-10-2012 3:05 AMIf you watch the special edition of Alien 3, when it gets to the end of the scene where the dead ox is brought in, one of the prisoner dudes stays behind and picks up this huge facehugger - and its huge! And its all armoured and stuff. And so maybe it impregnated the two? I think the they called it the 'queen facehugger' or something.
But then if he found that, why would everyone in the prison just turn a blind eye on it?

specialk
MemberOvomorphMay-10-2012 4:15 AMMorning chaps. Long time lurker who has never posted yet so be gentle...
I remember buying the Alien 3 comic adaption and they used this as an explanation....
http://weyland-yutaniarchives.blogspot.co.uk/2010/06/alien-3-cut-scenes-part-one.html
Scroll down a bit to see it. A bit rubbish but I thought Id just put it out there!

C0nst2nt1n3
MemberOvomorphMay-10-2012 5:24 PMThanks for the link Specialk. So the "super facehugger" was intended by the movie makers to impregnate more than one host. Would like to see some if the extra assembly cut scenes.

specialk
MemberOvomorphMay-11-2012 10:54 AMNo problem - personally I don't see the sense in having a chest burster escaping Newts drowned body, swimming to Ripley and then crawling into her mouth.
Surely if it was fine to leave the body then, why get into another host... Guess the studio and writers were just sloppy and desperate to make a third entry!

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 9:19 PMit is shown in the extended directors cut and we've discussed it a lot here but that's O.K.it;s a great topic.

frenchguy
MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 9:17 PM I think that when we see that not so benevolent real Bishop at the end of the movie and that evil glare in his eyes as he tells Riplay that they want to safely remove the queen embryo from her that it becomes pretty clear that the android Bishop was not as sweet as he appeared.I have always believed that it was Bishop who somehow who brought a couple of eggs on board the sulaco.There may have also been the possibilty that a second Bishop android may have been on board the sulaco that was activated after the others were put in stasis by the damaged Bishop and carried out the infection.
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