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Why Are You Wearing Those Stupid GOD Suits?

Neurion

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In the spirit of DONNIE DARKO’s Frank, the giant Bunny Rabbit… MAN: "Why Are You Wearing Those Stupid GOD Suits?" ENGINEER: "Why Are You Wearing Those Stupid MAN Suits?" Ridley Scott say’s the crew of the Prometheus find a civilization on Zeta II, doing very uncivilized things. Shaw says: “We were so wrong.” Shaw says: “This place is not what we thought it was. I think: The so-called “Engineers” are NOT going to be Gods, gods, or even demigods. Perhaps they’re just extra-terrestrials with superior technology, a penchant for meddling with genetics, and a slight god-complex. Not true creators, but sub-creators…who may have dabbled in mankind’s early origins. Being a God-believer to some degree, Shaw goes into space looking for answers…hoping to find her creator…or the like. She hoped to find something benign…she was so wrong. Ridley Scott did mention that he wanted to scare the SHIT out of the audience. My take anyway. Thoughts? ~Neurion
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taylor Caudle
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To be clear, there's no offensive intended. I actually HAVE a little Dashboard Jesus in my car- reminds me not to do anything I wouldn't want him to see, whether or not he's real. I just believe in seeing with eyes unclouded. Sounds simple- but most people can't.
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You say something out of nothing- why? I never said that. Nobody believes that. I've noticed this- its DEEPLY wrapped up in Christian Dogma to "call out" alternative theories. Using circular, non-sensical, distracting arguments like "How do you get something out of nothing? can't- must be god." or "Either there IS an Almighty God, or there isn't" Wrong. If there IS a god, then there are MANY gods, There is no reason to believe in ONE god. Its just simply IMPOSSIBLE for ANY of the HUNDREDS of religions to be right. The only way God would exist, is with peers. Because there were MANY before him, and MANY during, and then the romans killed everyone who wasn't Christian. So people sai "Oh, yep im converted." raised their kids, and their kids grew up believing something their parents didn't give two shits about- threatened with death. Hundres of millions of people. So I guess what I'm saying is, if ANY religion turns out to be right, Its SURE as hell not likely to be Christianity. I'm capable of believing in God. But its not "HE's this way or he doesn't exist." Well, no, what if YOU'RE just wrong, youve BEEN wrong, and he works in other ways. Its just, like, to SAY your religion is correct is to also say "Hundreds of others are wrong. and pointless. and when God was chillin and Jesus as in Israel, the rest of the world and their religions that developed INDEPENDENTLY (which kinda is in this MOVIE btw) were all pointless and meaningless- God was just messing with them, or what- ignoring them? And finally, at the end of the day, all 3 Abrahamic religions come down to ONE single point: How likely is it that ONE man, (Abraham), the same guy who said God told him to kill his kid to teach him a lesson- how likely is it that HE was really right? But then again, When the dead rise and Jesus comes to fight the Antichrist this December, I'm sure I'll feel different.
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Good call Spartacus, it's one of my favorites. ~N
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After all, this is a horror film. ~N
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Ridley is also embarrassed about certain scenes in this movie. Embarrassed, evidently, because they are WAAAAAY over-the-top. This could be cinematic history. An "event", a "milestone" - not just a "movie". I believe that this movie will wreak havoc with some groups because it will provoke thought. It's about time someone had the balls. -A
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I have to say that I am a believer in an Almighty God/Creator, myself. However, I don't mind a bit genetic tampering and Sci Fi fun. Plus, like I wrote...I don't think the humans in this picture are going to find their creator, I think their going to find yet another hostile organism...a technlogically "superior speices, no doubt." ~N
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Holy Crap! I hope it's not just a fancy remake of STAR TREK V: The Search for God...I mean "The Final Frontier". SHAKARI!
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You'd have to be an imbecile of the highest order to be upset by this film....the ancient astronaut theory is as insulting to Darwinists as it is to Creationists. This is scifi....plain and simple...a piece of entertainment
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I too believe in a "higher power"/"the ultimate creator of the universe" for it had to start somewhere by something. In this Alien "universe", we're really talking about an Alien "galaxy". These SJs might be the big kids on OUR block (Milky Way Galaxy segment 234F), but there are a lot bigger, a lot meaner fish in the Milky Way, and pure "sharks" out there reigning other galaxies. Sure, Alien/Prometheus et. al. are just movies created by "man", but we definitely have a lot of "art imitating [what [i]might[/i] [u][/u]actually be REAL] life". Unfortunately, nobody now living here on this planet will ever live to see it. -A
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[quote]You'd have to be an imbecile of the highest order to be upset by this film....the ancient astronaut theory is as insulting to Darwinists as it is to Creationists. This is scifi....plain and simple...a piece of entertainment[/quote] You'd be surprised how many credible scientists exist that believe in "[url=http://users.tpg.com.au/users/tps-seti/transpermia.html]transpermia[/url]/[url=http://users.tpg.com.au/users/tps-seti/swaprock.html#panspermia]panspermia[/url]" which isn't too far off from the "[url=https://www.google.com/search?q=ancient+astronauts&hl=en&safe=off&gbv=2&prmd=imvnslb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=z1OrT9rHJYGntweSi5V4&ved=0CHUQsAQ&biw=1014&bih=648]Ancient Astronaut[/url]" theory. BTW, having a light, esoteric discussion here. No need to call anyone an imbecile. This is a "safe zone" for sci-fi/science related discussions.
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There is no God other than Sir Ridley Scott! No, wait a sec, There is no God other than Christopher Nolan. Well, truth there is no God other than other than Stanley Kubrick! And good beer And Sarah's smile I'm confused......
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do you hear noise of furnitures being dragged in your apartment when you don't even have furniture in your apartment..? hhhelpmeee.....
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do you feel drowsy like jet-lagged drowsy when it is only 9PM? like as if you are drugged? you can't even make sense what you are reading. You are reading something but you cannot make sense of it....
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can they aerosolize anesthetics? they don't inject you, or poison your food. they just release the gas near your apartment to induce brain fog. does this happen to you people?
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@JP Ya know, I have been offended in a movie theatre before, sometimes by profanity, violence, rape, blasphemy, etc…and I’m not beyond getting up and walking out of the place. Folks just have different sensibilities, ya know…to each their own. Of course, I doubt this film will present a problem for my viewing pleasure. But, in any case…I believe that my being “upset” or not is my own concern. God Bless, N
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@JP Your skepticism is so stupid and comparable to the dogmatism of a religious fanatic. The the fair thoughts is the best and as you say is just science fiction, so the offenses are not part of the discussion.
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I think JP was responding to my "wreak havoc" comment, TBH. [img]http://static.starcitygames.com/sales/cardscans/MAGGUI/wreak_havoc.jpg[/img]
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@abordoli, oh man that's some ole school
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@EGR101: They can aerosolize anesthetics. The russians did it in the 2002 Moscow theater hostage crisis and killed 39 hostage takers + 129 innocent civilians. Creativity is God..
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I'm pretty sure "God" is a subjective term. The whole "These civilizations had no contact, but this same pictogram blah blah blah" That implies that either the Star Map was SEEDED in human minds from the beginning, which implies the Engineers CREATED us (a God). OR It implies that The Engineers have repeatedly visited Earth, and left the map, for some ULTERIOR motive. But the idea that "Engineers are NOT going to be Gods, gods, or even demigods. Perhaps they’re just extra-terrestrials with superior technology, a penchant for meddling with genetics, and a slight god-complex." Uh, right there- "God-Complex." If a "Superior Extraterrestrial Species" meddles with genetics, or even CREATES life, he does not have a "God-Complex." Thats a HUMAn word, because God is a HUMAN creation. I see your point, Neurion, but what you're REALLy saying is, "I believe in God so I think that in this movie the Aliens aren't REAL Gods, no matter what they say in the movie- because I know God and it doesn't matter if they call them gods in the movie- THEYRE NOT GODS." Which is...a little dumb but not stupid. The problem with THAT is, you're not specifying WHICH God. The Abrahamic God? The God that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all SHARE? Or a god in some other PANTHEON of gods? I think religion is an outdated concept that does far more harm than help, and it should be moved from the FOREFRONT of society, to something you do in private. So, I hope this movie does something to open everyone's minds a little bit, because the one thing I've noticed is: I AM capable of entertaining the possibility that there is a God. Most Christians are NOT capable of entertaining that there ISN'T.

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